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My problem once again is on my snare input. When I hit the snare drum pad  it 
sounds like a tom tom. When I push the four little buttons on the snare  
channel the snare sound is not on any of the 4 buttons ,It is the tom tom .What  
do or can I do? I have the sdsv unit. I also bought the BOSS  FS-5U pedal  for 
the high hat. I was told by the list that this is the unit to use if you  
don't have the original. I've tried it in channel  7 and I get nothing. It  has a 
normal jack outlet. I plug that into the 7 th channel. Nothing, any  
suggestions?
 
 
         Rick 


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When I hit my pad for the snare,all I get is the tom sound. I've pushed all  
four buttons on the snare channel and the factory set is a tom. All 4 buttons 
do  different things What is wrong? My second problem is I bought the BOSS   
FU-5U pedal for a high hat. I was told by the list that this is the after 
market  unit that will work. I plug it into channel 7 and I get nothing.Any one who 
 knows what I am doing wrong please let me know so I can correct the  
problems. 
 
 
   Rick


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MayasLady@... wrote:
> My problem once again is on my snare input. When I hit the snare drum pad  it 
> sounds like a tom tom. When I push the four little buttons on the snare  
> channel the snare sound is not on any of the 4 buttons ,It is the tom tom .What  
> do or can I do? I have the sdsv unit. I also bought the BOSS  FS-5U pedal  for 
> the high hat. I was told by the list that this is the unit to use if you  
> don't have the original. I've tried it in channel  7 and I get nothing. It  has a 
> normal jack outlet. I plug that into the 7 th channel. Nothing, any  
> suggestions?

On what drum brain?  From saying "four buttons" I assume SDS-5.  Sounds 
like the noise generator has gone south.

Gordon.

Hi  Rick,    
    I think you got that FS5-U idea from me.  But you have to use the XLR 
input, not the 1/4 inch jack on the SDS-V  to make it work. The 1/4 inch jack is 
a trigger input, not a HH control input.  And set the polarity switch on the 
pedal correctly. If this does not work I'd  say you have a faulty HH card. I 
had the same problem but had it repaired. As  for the snare, I think the noise 
circuit has gone bad. Be sure all the cards are  in the card cage properly 
before you do anything. These units behave badly when  the contacts aren't lined 
up and fitted snugly to one another. Be patient as  they are a bitch to line up 
and are quite nose heavy. This is old tech and  Simmons didn't provide tracks 
for the cards until the  SDS-7.


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Hi Rick.
Don't get me wrong and don't get angry, but I think most of your problems
result of misunderstanding. You have 7 Pad-Inputs on the back-panel,
corresponding to the 7 module slots on the front-panel. These are for Pads
only, not for pedals. The frontpanel is devided into (up to) 8 sections,
each a small metal panel hold by 4 phillips-screws: The master/mix section
on the very right side and the (up to) 7 Modules.  1 module has 5 Leds, 4
"little buttons", 6 big knobs and 12 drilled holes. There is a name printed
on each module, like bass, snare a.s.o. You can install up to seven modules,
the order doesn't matter. If you hit a pad connected to Channel 1, the
trigger led on channel 1/module 1 should flash. Each module represents one
drum (or a hihat or a cymbal). The four "little" buttons represent 4 presets
(tunings) of each drum. 1 Preset means 1 Sound for 1 drum. There are 6
parameters changeable to set up a preset/sound. Preset 1 is the
factory-preset. It can be changed only by removing the module. Preset 2 can
be altered by turning the 6 knobs on the module. Presets 3 and 4 can be
altered by a screwdriver through the little holes on the frontpanel. So: If
you push "little button" 2, only the 6 big knobs are responsible for the
sound. If you push "little buttons" 1, 3 or 4, the knobs are off and you
need the screwdriver. Your snare-problem: Check, if you trigger the
snare-module with your snare-pad. Again: If you hit your snarepad, the
trigger-led on the snare-module should flash. Press preset-button 2 on the
snare-module to activate the big knobs on the snare-module and check
noise/tone balance (big knob number 5). If you hear only a tomtom-like sound
with NO NOISE and NO CLICK, you have to give your unit to a serviceman,
because: There is a problem with the noise generator or the filter. Tell him
to check: Tr 6 (Noise Source), Output of the Lm 301 (Noise Amp), if ok,
output of the SSM 2044 (Pin 3). And the problem with your hihat? The pedal
must be connected to hihat control in, not to a pad-input. This can't be
done with a mono-jack to XLR, because this will result in shortcut of the
complete unit. Silly, but serious question by the way: Are you sure you have
a hihat MODULE fitted on your SDS 5? Without a hihat-module (looks like the
others, snare, bass or tomtoms, but there is "hihat" written on the
front...) nothing will happen, there is no "hidden" hihat inside the unit.
If you only read bass-snare-tomtom-tomtom-tomtom or so on your modules, no
pedal on the globe will output a hihat sound out of your unit. But if you
have a hihat-module installed, it doesn't matter, in wich slot it is: A
correct pedal will "find" it.
y.s. Michael

Stupid Q maybe, but do you have a hihat-card, otherwise it won't do anything 
at all...

electronically yours, jesper - with HH, without pedal
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From: <MayasLady@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] snare missing


> My problem once again is on my snare input. When I hit the snare drum pad 
> it
> sounds like a tom tom. When I push the four little buttons on the snare
> channel the snare sound is not on any of the 4 buttons ,It is the tom tom 
> .What
> do or can I do? I have the sdsv unit. I also bought the BOSS  FS-5U pedal 
> for
> the high hat. I was told by the list that this is the unit to use if you
> don't have the original. I've tried it in channel  7 and I get nothing. It 
> has a
> normal jack outlet. I plug that into the 7 th channel. Nothing, any
> suggestions?
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>         Rick
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