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Whell its only the modul wich I got for 30 Euros (in that 30 euros was included shipping )and it is in good shape 100% working....man just didnot know whats that...

he like real drums for country music wich he plays....heeheee

Damir

----- Original Message -----
From: flybot2000
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000



You paid 30 Euros for an SDS 2000? If it works, and had good pads, the
guy selling it was either drunk, stupid, or didn't know what he had.
Good buy.

Jym

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> Nonoonooooo
>
> its no 200
>
> its white its nice and its SDS 2000
>
> Paul thanx for manuals
>
> Damir
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Simmons SDS 2000
>
>
> Hi,
>
> > I just bought one sds 2000 for around 30 Euros today....Anybody
have
> > a manual or know something about this modul..Specs and info...
>
> an sds 2000?? for 30 euros? you sure you don't mean an sds200?
> anyway, the user guide for the sds2000 is here ;-
> http://www.simmons.synth.net/sds2000/
>
> Paul
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it's happening sometimes ...
For People who like real drums our things have no value at all ...

I missed 2 SDS7 like this that went to the bin directly , because the battery made them believe it was broken !!!

In the same time an SDS2000 (that I like very much ) isn't as known as an SDSV for example ...so not so prestigious ...it's not analog , it's a bit cold but I like it very veryyyy much !
30 euros is very very cheap ...

Anyway ,
BRAVO , & have Fun ,
Patrice.

----- Original Message -----
From: Damir-Kristijan Rogina
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


Whell its only the modul wich I got for 30 Euros (in that 30 euros was included shipping )and it is in good shape 100% working....man just didnot know whats that...

he like real drums for country music wich he plays....heeheee

Damir




----- Original Message -----
From: flybot2000
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000



You paid 30 Euros for an SDS 2000? If it works, and had good pads, the
guy selling it was either drunk, stupid, or didn't know what he had.
Good buy.

Jym

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Damir-Kristijan Rogina"
<roginator@v...> wrote:
> Nonoonooooo
>
> its no 200
>
> its white its nice and its SDS 2000
>
> Paul thanx for manuals
>
> Damir
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul.Maddox.Mail-list@S...
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Simmons SDS 2000
>
>
> Hi,
>
> > I just bought one sds 2000 for around 30 Euros today....Anybody
have
> > a manual or know something about this modul..Specs and info...
>
> an sds 2000?? for 30 euros? you sure you don't mean an sds200?
> anyway, the user guide for the sds2000 is here ;-
> http://www.simmons.synth.net/sds2000/
>
> Paul
>
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I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
replacement battery? When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

Jym

http://www.jymdingler.com/sdx.html

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Patrice JACQUOT"
<Jacquot.Patrice@w...> wrote:

> it's happening sometimes ...
> For People who like real drums our things have no value at all ...
>
> I missed 2 SDS7 like this that went to the bin directly , because

the battery made them believe it was broken !!!

>

Hi Jym!

I have a "dead" SDS7 too... bought it like that. Cosmetically it is almost mint, but the triggers don't work, no signal at all. How does it look when the battery is dead? Same symptom? Could you please describe it? Thank you!!!
Do the LEDs/lights in the module light up when you hit a pad? Thats what my SDS7 refuses to do :-(

Good luck with yours!
Hauke

----- Original Message -----
From: flybot2000
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:40 AM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000



I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
replacement battery? When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

Jym

http://www.jymdingler.com/sdx.html

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Patrice JACQUOT"
<Jacquot.Patrice@w...> wrote:
> it's happening sometimes ...
> For People who like real drums our things have no value at all ...
>
> I missed 2 SDS7 like this that went to the bin directly , because
the battery made them believe it was broken !!!
>





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Hi, Hauke.

My LEDs all light, from the programming interface to the individual
triggers. They light when you hit a pad, but the output isn't one of
the samples, it's sort of a "dooont." No real pitch, just a noise. It
doesn't change when I alter the parameters.

The battery in question is inside the brain, behind the programming
interface. You can see it when you pull the case off the chassis.

I'm not sure of the specific replacement battery required, or whether
simply replacing it will bring the beast back to life.

Hope that helps,
Jym

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Hauke Harm" <hauke@h...> wrote:
> Hi Jym!
>
> I have a "dead" SDS7 too... bought it like that. Cosmetically it is
almost mint, but the triggers don't work, no signal at all. How does
it look when the battery is dead? Same symptom? Could you please
describe it? Thank you!!!
> Do the LEDs/lights in the module light up when you hit a pad? Thats
what my SDS7 refuses to do :-(
>
> Good luck with yours!
> Hauke
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: flybot2000
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:40 AM
> Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000
>
>
>
> I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX
kit. I
> didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It
always
> worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with
a
> replacement battery? When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my
SDX,
> he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
> SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!
>
> Jym
>
> http://www.jymdingler.com/sdx.html

Jym,

> I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
> didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
> worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
> replacement battery?

in theory yes, but if the battery has leeked over the PCB, you may have problems
with burnt or missing tracks (old battery = nasty).

> When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
> he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
> SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

no idea, I wouldn't have thought so, I would hope that the OS was held on EPROM
and not in memory.

Paul

Jym/Hauke,

> I have a "dead" SDS7 too... bought it like that. Cosmetically it is almost
> mint, but the triggers don't work, no signal at all. How does it look when
> the battery is dead? Same symptom? Could you please describe it? Thank you!!!
> Do the LEDs/lights in the module light up when you hit a pad? Thats what my
> SDS7 refuses to do :-(

we have the service guide on the webpage, though its not a very high res scan
(the schematic is unreadable).
It has a list of problem and cures, try that first.

In the meantime, whoever sent me this, can I have a high res version of this?

Paul

Hi Patrice!

Does that mean that taking the battery out or replacing the battery is kind of a reset? I allready expectedthat I would have to reprogram all sets after a replacemtn... but I would be happy if it works at all after that ;-)

Thanks!
Hauke

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrice JACQUOT
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


Hi,
yes the Leds should light up, but I'm not sure ...
sometimes to change the battery is just initialising all the brain , & it works great after ...
Please keep in ind that teh sDS7 is certainly the most esoteric of all other Simmons models ...
Good luck too !
Patrice.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hauke Harm
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


Hi Jym!

I have a "dead" SDS7 too... bought it like that. Cosmetically it is almost mint, but the triggers don't work, no signal at all. How does it look when the battery is dead? Same symptom? Could you please describe it? Thank you!!!
Do the LEDs/lights in the module light up when you hit a pad? Thats what my SDS7 refuses to do :-(

Good luck with yours!
Hauke
----- Original Message -----
From: flybot2000
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:40 AM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000



I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
replacement battery? When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

Jym

http://www.jymdingler.com/sdx.html

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Patrice JACQUOT"
<Jacquot.Patrice@w...> wrote:
> it's happening sometimes ...
> For People who like real drums our things have no value at all ...
>
> I missed 2 SDS7 like this that went to the bin directly , because
the battery made them believe it was broken !!!
>





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patrice:

> What we're discussing about was the SDS7 worldly known sickness !!!

Ever seen a Korg PolySix on the inside after a battery leak? No? OK, don't
whine! ;)
I wonder what they thought about when they placed the memory batteries in
locations where it could harm A LOT if there was a leakage... which reminds
me of checking my Chroma one of these days...

electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

Hi Jesper!

I have a Polysix for about 22 years now and it is still the first battery. I have checked it only last week and will have replaced it in the next days... What a lucky guy am I? 22 years with the first battery and no leakage... :-)

I just had my SDS7 checked that I bought with "no function" and we found out that there is no battery inside... someone must have taken it out and did not replace it... OK, that's another way avoiding leckages... ;-)

By
Hauke

----- Original Message -----
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To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


patrice:
> What we're discussing about was the SDS7 worldly known sickness !!!

Ever seen a Korg PolySix on the inside after a battery leak? No? OK, don't
whine! ;)
I wonder what they thought about when they placed the memory batteries in
locations where it could harm A LOT if there was a leakage... which reminds
me of checking my Chroma one of these days...

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Hi!

> I have a Polysix for about 22 years now and it is still the first battery.

I have checked it only last week and will have replaced it in the next
days... What a lucky guy am I? 22 years with the first battery and no
leakage... :-)

I guess you've used it and not just kept it then! ;) My OSCar is like that
too, have had a battery chance, but that was just out of precaution.

> I just had my SDS7 checked that I bought with "no function" and we found

out that there is no battery inside... someone must have taken it out and
did not replace it... OK, that's another way avoiding leckages... ;-)

Sure is... a few years ago I bought a "dead" SDS-V on german Ebay.
Everything looked fine until I realised that the power switch was dead. 1.50
worth of euro at the local electronics store and the "dead" SDS-V was up and
running again.

So, there are many SDS's out there that needs a loving hand, but I guess
many of them goes into the local dumpster. :´(

electronically yours, jesper
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You need a new battery & to reprogram all of your kits after that ...
it' s what I'm currently doing on my both SDS7s ...
unless you could find any exterior memory card ...if the battery of the card didn't also died ...

good luck ...
Patrice.

----- Original Message -----
From: flybot2000
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:40 AM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000



I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
replacement battery? When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

Jym

http://www.jymdingler.com/sdx.html

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Patrice JACQUOT"
<Jacquot.Patrice@w...> wrote:
> it's happening sometimes ...
> For People who like real drums our things have no value at all ...
>
> I missed 2 SDS7 like this that went to the bin directly , because
the battery made them believe it was broken !!!
>





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Hi,
yes the Leds should light up, but I'm not sure ...
sometimes to change the battery is just initialising all the brain , & it works great after ...
Please keep in ind that teh sDS7 is certainly the most esoteric of all other Simmons models ...
Good luck too !
Patrice.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hauke Harm
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


Hi Jym!

I have a "dead" SDS7 too... bought it like that. Cosmetically it is almost mint, but the triggers don't work, no signal at all. How does it look when the battery is dead? Same symptom? Could you please describe it? Thank you!!!
Do the LEDs/lights in the module light up when you hit a pad? Thats what my SDS7 refuses to do :-(

Good luck with yours!
Hauke
----- Original Message -----
From: flybot2000
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:40 AM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000



I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
replacement battery? When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

Jym

http://www.jymdingler.com/sdx.html

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Patrice JACQUOT"
<Jacquot.Patrice@w...> wrote:
> it's happening sometimes ...
> For People who like real drums our things have no value at all ...
>
> I missed 2 SDS7 like this that went to the bin directly , because
the battery made them believe it was broken !!!
>





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I'm not sure of the specific replacement battery required, or whether
simply replacing it will bring the beast back to life.

Just the same 3.6 V ...
& yes it should bring it to life again ...nothing works without it ...




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The OS is on Eprom but not the Kits...

What we're discussing about was the SDS7 worldly known sickness !!!

Patrice.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


Jym,

> I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
> didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
> worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
> replacement battery?

in theory yes, but if the battery has leeked over the PCB, you may have problems
with burnt or missing tracks (old battery = nasty).

> When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
> he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
> SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

no idea, I wouldn't have thought so, I would hope that the OS was held on EPROM
and not in memory.

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Hi Patrice!

Does that mean that taking the battery out or replacing the battery is kind of a reset?

>>>>>I'm afraid Yes. For everything that is in memory ...
>>>>>>The battery is feeding the memory, so if the battery dies ....
>>>>>>>>>Unless there's a procedure that I don't know (I'm like you ; just musician not electronician ...)

I allready expectedthat I would have to reprogram all sets after a replacemtn... but I would be happy if it works at all after that

>>>>>>>>I understand you so much !!!

>>>>>>If you do find a memory card or even make one (I know that's possible) keep in mind that it will save your adjustments only on your SDS7,

on another one,, the Adjustment will be different as it seems something isn't calibrated to have a standard adjustment between different setted components or voicecards ...

Hope that helps !


Patrice.

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrice JACQUOT
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


Hi,
yes the Leds should light up, but I'm not sure ...
sometimes to change the battery is just initialising all the brain , & it works great after ...
Please keep in ind that teh sDS7 is certainly the most esoteric of all other Simmons models ...
Good luck too !
Patrice.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hauke Harm
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000


Hi Jym!

I have a "dead" SDS7 too... bought it like that. Cosmetically it is almost mint, but the triggers don't work, no signal at all. How does it look when the battery is dead? Same symptom? Could you please describe it? Thank you!!!
Do the LEDs/lights in the module light up when you hit a pad? Thats what my SDS7 refuses to do :-(

Good luck with yours!
Hauke
----- Original Message -----
From: flybot2000
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:40 AM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 2000



I have a mint-condition SDS-7 kit, identical in setup to my SDX kit. I
didn't use it for several years and the battery went dead. It always
worked perfectly before that. Could it be resurrected merely with a
replacement battery? When Bill B's American engineer refurbed my SDX,
he thought I might need some sort of memory card to rejuvenate the
SDS-7. Anbody know about this? Help!

Jym

http://www.jymdingler.com/sdx.html

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> For People who like real drums our things have no value at all ...
>
> I missed 2 SDS7 like this that went to the bin directly , because
the battery made them believe it was broken !!!
>





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