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Re: [Simmons Drums] getting even worse...

2008-06-15 by Michael Buchner

I once had Wolfgangs SDS3 here for repair and was very astonished of the sound. I compared it to SDSV, but they are two different machines with different targets: The 3 as a real synthesizer, the V as a (thought of...) replacement of acoustic drums. There is no better or worse.
As you know, the SDS3 is based on a 1:1 ripoff of the original moog- ladder filter. Only this is the reason, why the beast sounds so incredible (like the minimoog itself). There is no VCO and the click impact sound is simulated by a short rise in cutoff frequency. I never saw this on another device and it sounds like hell.
Because it is all analogue, every beat is sounding a little bit different being triggered. This means, the machine "lives", it "breathes". If you only sample the sound, you will lose this life. I watch this also on the TR 808 and the TR 909. In my opinion, they also cannot be replaced by software or hardware samplers. I play the originals and I promise you all: This difference is existing.
By the way: I agree with the look of the 909, it is definately not a beauty. But the sound is not boring at all: If connected to a good analogue mixing console with slightly overdriven input stages, you should hear it bark!! This sound is unbeatable, even after all these years.
I understand, why people pay a lot of money for all these machines mentioned above. May be the SDS3 was a long time standing in the shadow of SDSV, but without reason.
Michael
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Patrice Jacquot 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] getting even worse...


  Absolutely ! it helps ...
  didn't know about them, interesting ..

  Thanks, bye !
  Pat.

  Le 15 juin 08 à 16:09, jesper a écrit :

  > Patrice Jacquot skrev:
  > > Is there any famous single which recently came out with the SDS3 in
  > > it ???
  >
  > Not if you don't count the Fad Gadget CD/DVD-collection which includes
  > heavy use of the SDS-3 both in image and sound. Amazing collection and
  > artist!
  >
  > > Incredible price...so now the SDSIII would be more "badly wanted" 
  > than
  > > the 909 ...
  >
  > And that is sure understandable. The 909 looks like a Commodore C128 
  > and
  > sounds SOOOO boring compared to the SDS-3.
  >
  > But if you google you find a few SDS-3's and all owners seems to ADORE
  > them. This helps I guess...
  >
  > -- 
  > electronically yours, jesper
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  > www.electronic-obsession.se
  > www.myspace.com/machinepop
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