Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Hello Randal,
I definitely see no permission problems in cloning the SDS3, if you don't write "Simmons SDS3" on the top of your box ;-). Why should they punish an offripper of ripoff? Some of these circuits I found in other machines and - in electronic newspapers! And I don't think you will earn a fortune by selling these clones, and therefor it will be not very interesting for lawyers to fight at court. If you replace the original transistors with other components, this is already a change in layout and design. And I think, you don't want to copy the PCB, because all components on one large bed is pure nonsense. But, why only cloning it? Why not adding some nice things like an oscillator? Or a separate LFO for every channel? More (7...) channels? Change these ramp generators a little. Leave away this mic on/off fet circuit and the pad inputs (the pads work fine on the mic inputs). Then you can be sure not to lose at court. 
I will send the material I have to your private email address tomorrow because  have to reduce the mbyte size of the photos a little. B t w: Do you OWN an original SDS3/4?
See you soon
Michael
Ps.: I definitely SEE a problem in cloning an SDX. 
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: randaleem 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] SDS3/4 clone-Design rights?


  Michael,

  Thank you for the offer of help; I'd appreciate seeing the 
  schematics and any pics you might have as well. 

  FWIW, I have already sourced the needed old stock parts in 
  reasonable small production quantities.

  I'm also aware of the Moog ladder filter clone in the unit.

  You can email me in reply here, or direct at randaleem at yahoo.com

  Again thank you for the offer to share schematics and pictures of 
  the SDS3.

  Many here say just do it; but I'd still like to find Dave S or 
  whomever now has the rights and ASK permission. Guitar center was a 
  dead end so far.

  Randal 

  --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <michael.buchner@...> wrote:
  >
  > Ok, is your clone already working? I guess, not! You discuss about 
  permissions, you should discuss where to get the replacements for BC 
  557, 2N 5172, LM 3086, 2N 5459 and so on. For all not to be into 
  schematics so deep: These are the relevant electronic parts ;-.)).
  > B t w.: Dave Simmons cloned the original Moog ladder filter for 
  his SDS3/4 Drum Synthesizers. May be he didn't know, because he 
  cloned it from an ARP synthesizer :-))). So: If you want to produce 
  a number under 10000, nobody will care, I think. If you want help, 
  no problem. I have good detail photos and the REAL schematics of 
  SDS3.
  > Cheers
  > Michael 



   

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