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> 1. Re: The Serge Musician's Tapes 2002
> From: whincop@...
> 2. cv and audio processing/mixing question
> From: Junger Joerg <Joerg.Junger@...>
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> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 08:04:24 -0000
> From: whincop@...
> Subject: Re: The Serge Musician's Tapes 2002
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> --- In SergeModular@y..., "m. blake wilson" <sebsi23> wrote:
> [lots of gratuitous snipping by present poster]
> > this is the formal announcement that the members
> > are compiling and producing a new CD of music and sounds
> > produced using the Serge Modular Music Synthesizer.
> >The 2002 version of this project will be available to the general
> > public.
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> This is an excellent idea. I have a copy of the original tapes. I
> thought much of what was on them was a bit silly; but from a
> pedagogical standpoint, quite useful.
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> I have a general question on the issue of "purity" of Serge-ness.
> We sometimes make patches, let them run, record them.
> Sometimes we use the sounds in compositions or installations,
> in some cases with other sound sources. Sometimes we "play"
> the Serge as we are recording. Sometimes we let some external
> sequencer do that for us, eg. Max sending MIDI->CV messages,
> with the performer playing Max. Sometimes we through- or
> post-process pretty pure Serge patches, or layers of them, with
> analog (eg. delicious filters), early digital magic (eg. MXR
> transposer, oneof my favorite toys), or with computer or outboard
> post-production tools (some modernish Lexicon, Protools
> plugin, or CM instrument).
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> For the purpose of the proposed CD, what limit of pure
> Serge-ness are we suggesting? I, for instance, have heavily
> layered complex Serge patches, through- and post-processed,
> but still distinctly Serge-sounding (to my ear). And a student of
> mine (also now a collaborator) has a pure Serge patch being
> controlled by Max, which he subtly plays. Very Serge-y.
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> What do you think a propos of the sampler CD? Thanks...
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> Peter W
> Cambridge MA
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> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:46:56 +0100
> From: Junger Joerg <Joerg.Junger@...>
> Subject: cv and audio processing/mixing question
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> Hi list,
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> I've got the feeling that my 3panel configuration is lacking mixing and
> processing possbilites for both cv and audio. I only have one 3 in one audio
> mixer and one active processor. As soon as I want to do a bit more
> complicated patch I'm running out of mixing resources. I'm starting to
> realize that especially in the cv domain one cannot have enough mixing
> possiblities. Am I on the wrong track? Any tipps/hints/discussion are
> welcome.
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> Regards,
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> Joerg
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> My 2 cents. IMHO, I would like the compositions on this proposed CD to consist of sounds generated stricly by the Serge. Though I understand the idea of using the serge in conjunction with other instruments (drum machines etc) would also be cool (and possibly there could be two "Sides" to the CD, where would one draw the line.
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> I do however think that manipulating/editing serge source material within an audio sequencer and adding effects should be ok as long as the additional processing is documented.
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> I personally would be MOST interested in hearing what other dedicated serge enthusiasts do using the Serge as the sole sound generation device. Again, this is my 2 cents and I appreciate that others may feel completely different.
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> Thanks!
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> Andrew

> I agree. When I'm listening to any thing supposedly representing

> Keep it simple & pure if possible.
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> JP

> --- In SergeModular@y..., John Papiewski <johnp@w...> wrote:
> > I agree. When I'm listening to any thing supposedly representing
> equipment x or y, it seems to always be dolled up with something
> else. Distracting.
> > Keep it simple & pure if possible.
> >
> > JP
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> I don't agree with this, if you regard effects or post processing
> to be "dolling" something up. I agree that perhaps the CD should
> consist of pieces composed and realized strictly on Serge equipment
> (i.e. no other sound producing devices - synths, drum machines, other
> sequencers, Computer virtual synths), but no effects! I think the
> CD would quickly become a sterile, academic excercise in no time.
> John, do you consider using your Fostex hard disc multitrack recorder
> to be dolling up your serge (I suspect not)?
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