SergeModular

> Hard sync is not available on the [PCO] or [NTO] -- you use the 'SIG"
> input jack(s) on the [DSG]s to perform the operation.

> Thanks to Chris, John and Blake for filling me up regarding CV
> attenuation and CVI details. But as you can imagine, I still have some
> questions left (ah...what a surprise):
>
> According to the catalogue, the NTO and PCO have sync capabilties. As I
> understand it, this is a dedicated “soft sync” input (allowing to
> beating-free lock the sync’ed oscillator’s frequency to any
> harmonic/fundamental/sub-harmonic of the syncing oscillator), but it
> does not allow for “hard sync” (resetting the sync’ed oscillator’s
> waveform whenever the synching oscillator has a reset, normally the
> rising edge of a square wave is used as the reset signal, see
> http://www.csounds.com/ezine/sync/ for a nice picture of hard sync).
>
> I asked Rex about modifying the NTO/PCO for hard sync. He answered that
>
> Hard sync is not available on the [PCO] or [NTO] -- you use the
> 'SIG" input jack(s) on the [DSG]s to perform the operation.
>
>
> So he refered to the "how to hard-sync using a DSG" section of the STS
> catalogue. In case you don't have it at hand, I'll quote:
>
> [QUOTE]
> Sub-Harmonic Series Generator (Divider). If a series of triggers are
> applied to the TRIG IN jack that are faster than the total rise plus
> fall time, then the unit will divide the incoming triggers by a whole
> number.
> [SNIP]
> If the Slope Generators are set to audio frequencies, and the incoming
> triggers are in the audio range, then the output will be the
> sub-harmonic series. This is similar to the "hard sync" sound found in
> other synthesizers (and is the main reason that it is not included on
> Serge VCO's).
> [UNQUOTE]
>
> When I visited George Miller and his Blue Fun Station, we checked this
> out, result: the sound of the subharmonic series is NOT similar to a
> hard sync sound.
>
> How is this? Did I miss something? Is the passage in the catalogue
> wrong? Is asking this question bordering on being blasphemous ;-) ? And
> am I alone with the wish to hear NTOs and PCOs hard-synced?
>
> Confused regards
> Jan-Hinnerk

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Chris Whitten <cw.chris@z...> wrote:
> OK to be devils advocate for one minute.....
> This is getting like Meg Ryan's food ordering in 'When Harry Met Sally'.
> You either buy in to the Serge philosophy warts and all, or you look
> elsewhere. There are lots of oscillators that hard sync, not so many with=

> continuous voltage controlled waveshaping.
> It's a crass example I know.....I guess to quote another cliché, you can'=
t
> please all of the people all of the time. So like it or lump it.

> Thanks to Chris, John and Blake for filling me up regarding CV
> attenuation and CVI details. But as you can imagine, I still have some
> questions left (ah...what a surprise):
>
> According to the catalogue, the NTO and PCO have sync capabilties. As I
> understand it, this is a dedicated "soft sync" input (allowing to
> beating-free lock the sync'ed oscillator's frequency to any
> harmonic/fundamental/sub-harmonic of the syncing oscillator), but it
> does not allow for "hard sync" (resetting the sync'ed oscillator's
> waveform whenever the synching oscillator has a reset, normally the
> rising edge of a square wave is used as the reset signal, see
> http://www.csounds.com/ezine/sync/ for a nice picture of hard sync).
>
> I asked Rex about modifying the NTO/PCO for hard sync. He answered that
>
> > Hard sync is not available on the [PCO] or [NTO] -- you use the 'SIG"
> > input jack(s) on the [DSG]s to perform the operation.
>
> So he refered to the "how to hard-sync using a DSG" section of the STS
> catalogue. In case you don't have it at hand, I'll quote:
>
> [QUOTE]
> Sub-Harmonic Series Generator (Divider). If a series of triggers are
> applied to the TRIG IN jack that are faster than the total rise plus
> fall time, then the unit will divide the incoming triggers by a whole
> number.
> [SNIP]
> If the Slope Generators are set to audio frequencies, and the incoming
> triggers are in the audio range, then the output will be the
> sub-harmonic series. This is similar to the "hard sync" sound found in
> other synthesizers (and is the main reason that it is not included on
> Serge VCO's).
> [UNQUOTE]
>
> When I visited George Miller and his Blue Fun Station, we checked this
> out, result: the sound of the subharmonic series is NOT similar to a
> hard sync sound.
>