SergeModular

--- In SergeModular@y..., "Sebastian Kuehnl" <skuehnl@y...> wrote:

> Hi Mr Rubbish (?),

As per usual , You call me Mr. Rubbish (very witty...) , but you
cant even justify your own assertations ?

>
> : ---
> : > Add to this the 8x2 sequencer with A,B,A-B (aka Sequencer 17A)
> : > this is the EXACT same layout except the stepselect buttons
> : > are on the right not left side. Almost every designer has
> : > some radically different step sequencer design.
> : >
> : > It's really a shame because it seems otherwise modcan has some
> : > really good ideas, like the oscillator design and especially
> : > the wavetable module.
> :
> : This is a copy too b.t.l.o.i. I believe Digisound offered this in
> : the '80's ?
> : Seems Mr.Modcan is a Me-Too Maker........shame on his name....
> : p.k
>
> WHAT??? Is every VCDO (and designs can differ widely) a copy of

Digisound

> only because they made it first, two decades ago?

No , a copy is a copy. The Modcan design may be differant , I have
no experience of it , but the modules concept is not original as
implied in the post I was responding to . (is'nt that the game
here ...call & response.? demystification ?

Following this logic, you

> must regard most every synth VCF a copy of Moog's (Buchla's very

earliest

> did not have a similar impact on following models).

Next, one could say that

> the Wiard Wavecity is a theft of both the Digi VCDO and the Serge

TWM!?


Is it ? surely not .anyway , making a motorbike from an engine & 2
wheels is hardly stealing from mr.wheel or mr.engine ?

All I know , Grant Richter , respect to him , is very honest about
the design origins of some of these ideas........check it out , at
least he has the decency to incorporate many unique angles &
features . He is an expert on Serge , Buchla , EMS , EML ,
etc.......and is very honest & I think cool about the origins of his
inspiration...

> Next, the Serge TWM would be a copy of the shape circuitry immanent

to the

> Buchla 259 and 208?

I've no idea , but your all wrong here , were talking about fairly
specific stuff ....lets talk some more about your pronouncements on
Boolean logic & it's alphabetically arranged logic units....that made
my ribs hurt...

>
> The Digisound VCDO schematics are at Kevin Lightners' Synthfool

Lite site

> http://www.sonicstate.com/synthfool/schm.html
>
>
> : thousands at least . do you know how many types of boolean logic
> : exist ? there are dozens of differant functions possible , plus by
> : having duplication of some modules thousands of possibilities

exist .

> : making the modcan a blatant no question rip-off .
> (...)
> : check lab electronics (india) boolean logic trainer . look &
> : learn . they start & follow.....and / nor / nand / or / 3 input

and /

> : 3 input nor / 3 input nand etc etc etc. then onto not gate , x-

or ,

> : flip-flopsn & decade counter ( actually a divide by 5 & divide by

2 ,

> : chainable)
>
> You are right. Firtsly, I was only thinking of the three most

frequently

> used.

This again is untrue . You mean the only ones you know about ?????
Alphabetical order is irrelevant to boolean logic.......



As for adding functions to the Serge model, why not suggest it to
Rex;

> but even in a very esoteric system there's limits I suppose.

Hunh.....are you just poppin' spit ? limits ? to even simple let
alone "esoteric" systems , there are billions of possible
connections/settings/functions -more than you could ever try in 2
lifetimes................there are NO limits to this....thats the
idea...?


But, secondly,

> many other logic functions can be done by using the BLOG together

with STS'

> comparator, divider, rectifier etc modules!
> So it may make sense to use only these three in the Serge. Of

course -

> Modcan has no comparators.

Rectifiers (full or half wave) , dividers have entirely differant
functions . comparators are obviously more closely related , but
still offer differant , complimentary but non-negational (it do'nt
make any boolean modules redundant) options.

regards
Mr. Rubbish (I kinda like that....)

>
> Sebastian Kuehnl
>
>
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