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From: PATTERSON [mailto:spatto@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:45 PM
To: Analogue@...
Subject: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


Good Morning, Noon or Night,

Have been offered these three beasties (Jupiter 6 , CS-60 , SH-5) in a trade
and was looking for any recommendation as to which one to pick.

Any takers?

Regards,

NIKOLAS

From: Ron West [mailto:ronwest@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:01 PM
To: spatto@...; Analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


>Have been offered these three beasties (Jupiter 6 , CS-60 , SH-5) in a 
>trade
>and was looking for any recommendation as to which one to pick.

Depends on your needs and also on what you would have to give up in the 
trade. The JP-6 has a cool filter, sounds great and is polyphonic. The SH-5 
is mono with a *very* nice ring mod. I'm not too familiar with the CS-60. 
The archives should provide you with more than enough info on these synths.
Ron

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From: Vampeiyre@... [mailto:Vampeiyre@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:04 PM
To: spatto@...; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


       Personally, I'd pick either the CS-60 or SH-5 over the Jupiter 6. The

CS-60 is a flexible and rich sounding polysynth (I don't know if there are 
any MIDI kits for it if that concerns you), closest thing to a CS-80  you
can 
get without having to pay for a CS-80. Even given my dislike of things
Roland 
I must concede that the SH-5 is a very nice sounding feature laden mono,
only 
things I might pick over it monosynth wise would be a like a Yamaha 
CS-10/15/30, Pro 1 or maybe...a 2600 hehe.
     I think the Jupiter 6 is disappointing sonically, and I find I'm not
the 
only person who feels that way. I was really hyped up to try one and when I 
finally did I was pretty let down. Not much animation in the oscillators,
and 
the multimode filter though cool doesn't have quite the bite I'd like
anyhow. 
It is rather unique at any rate, Jupiter 6's seem to be love or hate sorts
of 
synths, so I suppose you'd have to try that one yourself. 

              Best Wishes,
                      Fast

From: ShawnClear@... [mailto:ShawnClear@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:11 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


hi,

<< Not much animation in the oscillators, and the multimode filter though 
cool doesn't have quite the bite I'd like anyhow. >>

Both you and Steve Hanlon are crazy ;-)
This synth has bite! I will have to make you some mp3s...this is insanity. 
*Unison* mod *Unison* mode (and don't call it a "trick).

Thx,

Shawn

From: ShawnClear@... [mailto:ShawnClear@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:00 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


hi,

<< Have been offered these three beasties (Jupiter 6 , CS-60 , SH-5) in a 
trade and was looking for any recommendation as to which one to pick. >>

I have never heard or played the CS series by Yamaha so I can't comment on 
that. I've never played the Sh-5 either but by looking at it on the net it 
has a ton of features and I downloaded some mp3s which sounded really nice 
(filter was good).

But let me tell you about the Jupiter 6- this thing can do some tremendous 
bass. I just got mine expecting to use it for pads and strings but imo it 
excels at harsh sounds, especially deep thick bass. Pop this in Unison mode 
and watch out, has thicker bass than my JP-8. I really like this synth...I 
just got it up and running yesterday (had to buy a power cord) and I've 
already  made 12 different patches! Awesome sync sounds, chunky bass and
dark 
dark synth strings. The filter is perfect for acid.

The interface makes it very easy to create patches. Everything is laid out 
perfectly, plenty of lights and sliders! Its kind of weird because even tho 
it has more modulation possibilities than the Jup8 it seems easier for me to

program...I suppose, when compared to the 8, that knob tweaking sounds
better 
whereas on the 8 the range of sounds is kind of limited so unless your 
sliders are in the exact position the sound will not be as good. I hope you 
understand what I mean...

Thanks,

Shawn
shawnclear@...

From: ShawnClear@... [mailto:ShawnClear@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:19 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


hi,

hehe...I might agree with the lack of character, but not the lack of 
thickness!

<<I'll not accuse you of that, unison mode of ye olde Prophet 5 is tons o' 
fun. >>

Hell yea...I just barely missed another Rev. 2 for $400 (locally). Damn, not

that I need another synth!

Thx,

Shawn

From: shanlon@... [mailto:shanlon@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:19 PM
To: ShawnClear@...; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


> Both you and Steve Hanlon are crazy

i only said i was let down when i first heard it.  then when i put it in a
mix, i changed my mind.  i expected it to be a larger sound (like a juno 106
but with a bigger and wider sound).  it does sound thin, but drop  it in the
mix wth an 808 kick and it sits perfectly.

btw, i am crazy, crazy for my 777

-steve

From: Scott Gibbons [mailto:nomusic@...] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:19 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


>But let me tell you about the Jupiter 6- this thing can do some tremendous
>bass. I just got mine expecting to use it for pads and strings but imo it

Same here :-)  I'd always heard that the J6 was better at high end patches
(strings etc) and not as good with bass, but it saved a mix last week by
giving just the perfect punchy bass! In short order I got a really bright
and tonal bass sound that's crystal clear and not too rubbery.

In certain settings though, the filter can produce a weird "click" that's
impossible to get rid of without changing the patch. No fix for that yet...

Also check out the Europa upgrade of course; it's going to redefine the J6
in amazing ways.

- Scott
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From: Paul Linton [mailto:paul.linton@...] 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 3:10 AM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


> Same here :-)  I'd always heard that the J6 was better at high end patches
> (strings etc) and not as good with bass, but it saved a mix last week by
> giving just the perfect punchy bass! In short order I got a really bright
> and tonal bass sound that's crystal clear and not too rubbery.
> 
> In certain settings though, the filter can produce a weird "click" that's
> impossible to get rid of without changing the patch. No fix for that
yet...

I've always been a fan of the JP-6.  I like the HPF and cross mod
abilities... And yes, you can even make some nice bass sounds.  :)

The envelope 'popping' can be annoying, but I usually work that into a
sound.  

This site details a mod that should eliminate it:

http://www.angelfire.com/sd/timewind/

Paul

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From: Mike Kent [mailto:mikekent@...] 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 11:07 PM
To: PATTERSON; Analogue Heaven AH
Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiter 6 VS CS-60 VS SH-5


> Have been offered these three beasties (Jupiter 6 , CS-60 , SH-5) in a
trade
> and was looking for any recommendation as to which one to pick.

Easy Choice as far as I'm concerned. All are cool synths and each person has
unique needs and taste. But I really would like to get an SH-5.

SH-5 is one of the best sounding monosynths ever made. Quite rare and a very
worthy "find". You may never get another shot at an SH-5.

There will be plenty of other chances to get a JP-6. It's a cool polysynth,
though it doesn't quite meet my needs/desires.

The CS-60 is cool, too, with unique CS-Series sounds. But without MIDI or
CV/Gate (as far as I know) it is somewhat limited in terms of use in a
sequencer system. If it really appeals to you, then you should get that now
because CS-60 is hard to find.

Maybe its a matter of whther you want a poly or a mono. But I'd pick the
SH-5 without hesitation.

Mike.

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