PLAN B analog blog

So I got my Plan B modules (VCO, LPG, filter).

I've got to say that the vco/lpg combo sound identical to Morton 
Subotnick's recordings of the Buchla. More so than my 200e!
Mind you, I think the 200e has a beautiful, distinctive character all 
its own, but if it is the old 60's-70's Buchla you guys are after, 
this is the way to go (and much cheaper, I might add). The PWM also 
gives a beautiful chorus effect (great low end!). I'm gonna try 
feeding the Model 15 into the 292e for a comparison test with the Plan 
B lpg.

Nicely done, Peter......

Cool

I love the Buchla Subotnik sound, and as with everyone dreamed of owning 
a Buchla one day ...a bit hard to do here in Australia, so I bought the 
next best thing a Serge modular, and am now buying the Model 12 and 15, 
I have also ordered the Doepfer Quantised/Stored Random Voltages (149-1 
) ...cant wait to get the into my system...Id  like to see Peter make 
more Buchlaish models

Ross

cuari7 wrote:

>
> So I got my Plan B modules (VCO, LPG, filter).
>
> I've got to say that the vco/lpg combo sound identical to Morton
> Subotnick's recordings of the Buchla. More so than my 200e!
> Mind you, I think the 200e has a beautiful, distinctive character all
> its own, but if it is the old 60's-70's Buchla you guys are after,
> this is the way to go (and much cheaper, I might add). The PWM also
> gives a beautiful chorus effect (great low end!). I'm gonna try
> feeding the Model 15 into the 292e for a comparison test with the Plan
> B lpg.
>
> Nicely done, Peter......
>
>

Cuari,


thanks for the kind words.  these types of comments are really 
appreciated. I was happy to finally get that order out! 

Regarding the comparison, you'll notice Model 13 has a bit more 
low end in the combined 'both' mode than the 200e's 292.  Mine 
uses a different approach than Buchla's, although as it comes 
out the speakers the Model 13 is closer to the sound of the 
original 200's lowpass gate combined mode.  

If any of you have access to one of the original 292 you'll notice a 
slightly different sound in 'LP' mode over the Dual Timbral Gate.  
It's the resonance - mine's a bit sharper.  

-P


--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "cuari7" 
<cuari7@...> wrote:
>
> So I got my Plan B modules (VCO, LPG, filter).
> 
> I've got to say that the vco/lpg combo sound identical to Morton 
> Subotnick's recordings of the Buchla. More so than my 200e!
> Mind you, I think the 200e has a beautiful, distinctive character 
all 
> its own, but if it is the old 60's-70's Buchla you guys are after, 
> this is the way to go (and much cheaper, I might add). The 
PWM also 
> gives a beautiful chorus effect (great low end!). I'm gonna try 
> feeding the Model 15 into the 292e for a comparison test with 
the Plan 

> B lpg.
> 
> Nicely done, Peter......
>

ALong those lines...


We are delivering 9 M15s, 8 M12s and 4 M17s to Analogue 
Haven tomorrow.  There's a simular sized order going to Eurpoe 
the week after that.

Next week there's a quantity of M13'S AND THE NEW M10 AND 
M14'S going to Analogue  Haven as well.  

The Heisenberg Generator, our first digital module and what has 
shaped up to be one hell of a Random Voltage Source was 
discovered by someone today on AH (It's up on the EAR Group 
site now - see Model 24), will be in stores in about a month, with 
another two new ones coming shortly after that.  

I''ll go into a bit more detail on the Heisenberg this weekend, 
right now I've got four guys here finishing the AH order and two 
cutom jobs, got to get back to the wheel here  but look out for 
more on this topic later...

- P


--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, q v s f u e k p s 
v h s l w <izimizam@...> wrote:
>
> well nice one for getting the order out there peter , without a 
doubt you have a fantastic line here man , ok so the production 
lines maybe not quite yamaha yet but i know a lot of people really 
into the plan b stuff aswell as livewire and buzzing off the sound.
>    
>   Keep em rolling and i look forward to a milton in particular 
when they become available..
>    
>   PS
>    
>   Faster ! (in a layed back kind of way ) 
>    
>   
> "(i think you can figure that out)" <peter@...> wrote:
>           Cuari,
> 
> thanks for the kind words. these types of comments are really 
> appreciated. I was happy to finally get that order out! 
> 
> Regarding the comparison, you'll notice Model 13 has a bit 
more 
> low end in the combined 'both' mode than the 200e's 292. Mine 
> uses a different approach than Buchla's, although as it comes 
> out the speakers the Model 13 is closer to the sound of the 
> original 200's lowpass gate combined mode. 
> 
> If any of you have access to one of the original 292 you'll notice 
a 
> slightly different sound in 'LP' mode over the Dual Timbral 
Gate. 
> It's the resonance - mine's a bit sharper. 
> 
> -P
> 
> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "cuari7" 
> <cuari7@> wrote:
> >
> > So I got my Plan B modules (VCO, LPG, filter).
> > 
> > I've got to say that the vco/lpg combo sound identical to 
Morton 
> > Subotnick's recordings of the Buchla. More so than my 200e!
> > Mind you, I think the 200e has a beautiful, distinctive 
character 
> all 
> > its own, but if it is the old 60's-70's Buchla you guys are after, 
> > this is the way to go (and much cheaper, I might add). The 
> PWM also 
> > gives a beautiful chorus effect (great low end!). I'm gonna try 
> > feeding the Model 15 into the 292e for a comparison test with 
> the Plan 
> > B lpg.
> > 
> > Nicely done, Peter......
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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the Model 15 are definately not a limited run.  They will be 
produced for a s long as I'm making analog.

As far as the number of Model 13 for a system wiith 3 - 4 VCOs, 
i'd recommend two (a total of four gates).

Remember though - the Model 13 cannot gate control voltqges, 
only AC.  I did this for the simple reason that the vactrol, which 
give it it's distinct sound for AC, tend to add too much slew for 
control voltages.  If you'd like however, you can easily modify 
them so that they will in fact gate DC.  Feel free to contact me 
offline for directions but be wared - this mod may cause 
'bumping' when its installed - meaning you'll hear a slight thump 
sound with fast evelopes when the gate is openned quickly (zero 
attack).   The good news is, this mod can be easily removed.  Ho 
traces are cut, you just have to short out two components on 
each gate. 

Much cleaner gating of cotnrol voltages can be with eithera 
Deopfer A131or Plan B Model 14 however - no slewing. this is 
the route i'd recommend.

- P