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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Digest Number 177

2006-06-08 by Norman Fay

I'm in a similar situation w/r/t 2 frac format oscillators.  At this
point, having repeately emailed, and posted "paging peter G" messages
on AH,  I just don't know what to do.  Up to a point, communication
was excellent, then it just seemed to stop.  Are my messages getting
spam filtered for some reason, what?  Last I heard was in October '05,
when my VCOs were apparently complete & ready to ship, I paid the
balance as requested, since which time, black hole.

Frustrating.


On 4 Jun 2006 17:32:46 -0000, PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com
<PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> There is 1 message in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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>    1.  Paging Peter Grenader
>          From: "cuari7" cuari7@comcast.net
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 9:18 am (PDT)
>    From: "cuari7" cuari7@comcast.net
> Subject: Paging Peter Grenader
>
>
> I've tried emailing you, to no avail.
> Tried calling you; no answer, and answering machine is full.
>
> I'm trying to remain graceful about this, but it's really getting
> frustrating, man.
>
> All I want to know is when I'm going to get delivery of my modules.
> Prepaid IN FULL more than a year ago.
> You keep saying "give me a couple of weeks" all the time.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Please contact me: Phone#904-537-7876
>
> Email:  diaz.jesus@mayo.edu  (in case it doesn't show, it is
> jesusDOTdiazATmayoDOTedu)
>
> jdiaz, aka cuari7
>
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Re: replys

2006-06-09 by q v s f u e k p s v h s l w

well i looked at buying some plan b modules but after reading these posts and getting flakey feedback from Ear i didnt.I contacted Analogue haven a while back and it seems they have none in stock and a few orders and people waiting and yet they are taking money and selling modules on ebay still ? i dont understand whats up with people and these companies myself.So much selfishness (there is No excuse for lack of replys and trust me when i say that i am finding this more and more via the internet.Ignored emails ,especially in a business sense when we try and get paid for our music from labels and when people have nothing to give but only seem to want to take ! its not so common from businesses trying to sell products though ! unless they already had your money or have an inability to consider anyone but themselves selfishness seems to be on the increase ...........does it take that long to create a module.I noticed that the link to Buy is now shot
all very flakey .Shame - amazing sound from the osc.Ear look like a bunch of space cadets to me and thats coming from one ! (who does however reply to All emails and
deal with people via a business and run one )

Norman Fay wrote:
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I'm in a similar situation w/r/t 2 frac format oscillators. At this
point, having repeately emailed, and posted "paging peter G" messages
on AH, I just don't know what to do. Up to a point, communication
was excellent, then it just seemed to stop. Are my messages getting
spam filtered for some reason, what? Last I heard was in October '05,
when my VCOs were apparently complete & ready to ship, I paid the
balance as requested, since which time, black hole.

Frustrating.

On 4 Jun 2006 17:32:46 -0000, PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com
<PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Paging Peter Grenader
> From: "cuari7" cuari7@comcast.net
>
> __________________________________________________________
> __________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 9:18 am (PDT)
> From: "cuari7" cuari7@comcast.net
> Subject: Paging Peter Grenader
>
>
> I've tried emailing you, to no avail.
> Tried calling you; no answer, and answering machine is full.
>
> I'm trying to remain graceful about this, but it's really getting
> frustrating, man.
>
> All I want to know is when I'm going to get delivery of my modules.
> Prepaid IN FULL more than a year ago.
> You keep saying "give me a couple of weeks" all the time.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Please contact me: Phone#904-537-7876
>
> Email: diaz.jesus@mayo.edu (in case it doesn't show, it is
> jesusDOTdiazATmayoDOTedu)
>
> jdiaz, aka cuari7
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: replys (from Analogue Haven)

2006-06-09 by frequencysurfing

hello,

- Sorry if the following gets a little scrambled, I wrote from 
within YahooGroups.
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From: q v s f u e k p s v h s l w

I don't have any emails from you in my work inbox and you don't post 
a name so I assume, like me, that you use an alternate email address 
for mailing lists. I wanted to reply to your Plan B list email since 
it concerns our business, Analogue Haven. I will write my comments 
inline...

> well i looked at buying some plan b modules but after reading 
> these posts and getting flakey feedback from Ear i didnt.I 
> contacted Analogue haven a while back and it seems they have none 
> in stock and a few orders and people waiting and yet they are 
> taking money and selling modules on ebay still ? 

I am sorry but you are mistaken. We have stock of all released 
Livewire modules and most Plan B modules. The only Plan B module 
that we are out of at this point, as of this email, is the Model 15 
Oscillator. Although we are low on some stock because they are 
selling very well and that means the filter and lowpass gates will 
probably run out also within a few days. Mike Brown of Livewire just 
dropped off an order but we have gone through a lot of those modules 
already. Though as of now we do have LW filters and Dual Cyclotrons.

Take a look at our website http://www.analoguehaven.com/ear/ and you 
will notice that there are shopping carts saying either "email us 
for availability" or "in-stock add to cart". If it says it is in-
stock then it was as of the store inventory the previous night. We 
update our carts daily and try to keep gear in-stock as much as 
possible. Occasionally we run out due to manufacturer delays or 
orders not coming in as soon as we projected but we do not keep 
carts up intentionally if we don't have stock. 

The next issue is regarding taking money and not delivering product. 
This is completely against what we are about so I don't know where 
you get this idea. We do not charge credit cards or accept payments 
until gear is ready to ship. In the case of some gear "coming soon" 
we will take a pre-order which reserves the product once it is 
available, but even for these we do not charge cards in advance. So 
I am surprised and confused by your statements.

Regarding the modules on Ebay, these are done as a way of publicity 
for the Livewire + Plan B lines. These modules are shipping from 
stock. Why would we post auctions without having stock? In this case 
we'd surely receive negative feedback and we don't want that as it 
would harm our posivite reputation.

> i dont understand whats up with people and these companies 
> myself.So much selfishness (there is No excuse for lack of replys 
> and trust me when i say that i am > finding this more and more via
> the internet.Ignored emails ,especially in a business sense when 
> we try and get paid for our music from labels and when people have 
> nothing to give but only seem to want to take ! its not so common 
> from businesses trying to sell products though ! unless they 
> already had your money or have an inability to consider anyone but 
> themselves selfishness seems to be on the increase ...........does 
> it take that long to create a module.

I do not like being discussed in the same message as this quote 
because we at Analogue Haven reply to emails very timely and answer 
all that come across as far as we know. Our customers know that I 
sit on email and answer it, usually exhaustively, as much as 
possible while orders are being packed at the store. And when I'm on 
vacation or not answering it, my business partner is. So this 
paragraph cannot pertain to us.

Regarding building modules in a timely manner, yes we wish we could 
get modules faster and in larger quantities from the manufacturer 
but please keep in mind that these guys (Mike and Peter each) are 
doing everything solo for their company and it is a lot of work. 
They design the modules, they press the frontplates, they stuff the 
board (sometimes with assistents) and hand-deliver the modules to 
our shop. They answer your emails and then deal with tech support 
when we have users who either plug up a module incorrectly or have 
the occasional fault. These guys are dealing with everything 
including 50-100 piece module orders at a time from us as soon as 
they can fill them. And these modules are not simple, they are very 
complicated and take awhile to build + test. Mike and Peter are 
victims of their own success.

Yes the people who have money out and have not yet received their 
modules should get more urgent replies, I understand that. And that 
is on Plan B and Livewire's shoulders as we had nothing to do with 
those orders. But things have gotten better since we've started 
distributing modules for them and they will continue to get better 
as Livewire and Plan B have more time to spend on engineering and 
manufacturing and less on sales and support as we have done that. If 
you have questions about their products not related to previous 
orders you can email us @ analoguehaven and we will reply fast.

> I noticed that the link to Buy is now shot 
> http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030

The reason for that is because Big City Music does not sell Eurorack 
Plan B or Livewire modules. We have that exclusive contract in the 
USA, with this complete responsibility, so the page was removed from 
their website. If you need a module feel free to email us to place 
an order or to buy the new ones we have on Ebay.

> all very flakey .Shame - amazing sound from the osc.Ear look like 
> a bunch of space cadets to me and thats coming from one ! (who  
> does however reply to All emails and deal with people via a  
> business and run one ) 

Thanks for the positive comments about the modules, features and 
sound.

As I wrote about, if you are ready to order then you can contact me 
through the AH address. 

Regarding new product, both Mike Brown and Peter are hard at work on 
new modules in addition to fulfilling recent orders of the current 
modules so we should receive another shipment in end of June or 
early July. People who have expressed interest (but have not 
paid :) ) will be contacted once we have stock.

Have a nice weekend and write if you need anything (yes, we even 
reply on Sundays).

Thank you,

Shawn Cleary
www.analoguehaven.com


--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, q v s f u e k p s v h s l 
w <izimizam@...> wrote:
>
> well i looked at buying some plan b modules but after reading 
these posts and getting flakey feedback from Ear  i didnt.I 
contacted Analogue haven  a while back and it seems they have none 
in stock and a few orders  and people waiting and yet they are 
taking money and selling modules on ebay still  ? i dont understand 
whats up with people and these companies myself.So much selfishness 
(there is No excuse for lack of replys and trust me when i say that 
i am finding this more and more via the internet.Ignored 
emails ,especially in a  business sense when we try and get paid for 
our music from labels and when people have nothing to give but only 
seem to want to take ! its not so common from businesses trying to 
sell products though ! unless they already had your money or have an 
inability to consider anyone but themselves  selfishness seems to be 
on the increase  ...........does it take that long to create a 
module.I noticed that the link to Buy is now shot
>    
>   http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030
>    
>   all very flakey .Shame - amazing sound from the osc.Ear look 
like a bunch of space cadets to me and thats coming from one ! (who 
does however reply to All emails and 
>   deal with people via a business and run one ) 
>    
>   
> Norman Fay <vietgrove@...> wrote:
>           I'm in a similar situation w/r/t 2 frac format 
oscillators. At this
> point, having repeately emailed, and posted "paging peter G" 
messages
> on AH, I just don't know what to do. Up to a point, communication
> was excellent, then it just seemed to stop. Are my messages getting
> spam filtered for some reason, what? Last I heard was in 
October '05,
> when my VCOs were apparently complete & ready to ship, I paid the
> balance as requested, since which time, black hole.
> 
> Frustrating.
> 
> On 4 Jun 2006 17:32:46 -0000, PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com
> <PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is 1 message in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Paging Peter Grenader
> > From: "cuari7" cuari7@...
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 9:18 am (PDT)
> > From: "cuari7" cuari7@...
> > Subject: Paging Peter Grenader
> >
> >
> > I've tried emailing you, to no avail.
> > Tried calling you; no answer, and answering machine is full.
> >
> > I'm trying to remain graceful about this, but it's really getting
> > frustrating, man.
> >
> > All I want to know is when I'm going to get delivery of my 
modules.
> > Prepaid IN FULL more than a year ago.
> > You keep saying "give me a couple of weeks" all the time.
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> > Please contact me: Phone#904-537-7876
> >
> > Email: diaz.jesus@... (in case it doesn't show, it is
> > jesusDOTdiazATmayoDOTedu)
> >
> > jdiaz, aka cuari7
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
>          
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>  Send instant messages to your online friends 
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Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: replys (from Analogue Haven)

2006-06-09 by damon

For the record, I'd like to put out there that I've had nothing but  
best of breed treatment from Analogue Haven.  I'm always responded to  
quickly, given great service, proactively contacted about any stock  
issues with orders I've placed and dealt with in what I'd call a  
generous way.

Best retailer I've ever patronized in this industry.
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On Jun 9, 2006, at 2:02 PM, frequencysurfing wrote:

> hello,
>
> - Sorry if the following gets a little scrambled, I wrote from
> within YahooGroups.
>
> From: q v s f u e k p s v h s l w
>
> I don't have any emails from you in my work inbox and you don't post
> a name so I assume, like me, that you use an alternate email address
> for mailing lists. I wanted to reply to your Plan B list email since
> it concerns our business, Analogue Haven. I will write my comments
> inline...
>
> > well i looked at buying some plan b modules but after reading
> > these posts and getting flakey feedback from Ear i didnt.I
> > contacted Analogue haven a while back and it seems they have none
> > in stock and a few orders and people waiting and yet they are
> > taking money and selling modules on ebay still ?
>
> I am sorry but you are mistaken. We have stock of all released
> Livewire modules and most Plan B modules. The only Plan B module
> that we are out of at this point, as of this email, is the Model 15
> Oscillator. Although we are low on some stock because they are
> selling very well and that means the filter and lowpass gates will
> probably run out also within a few days. Mike Brown of Livewire just
> dropped off an order but we have gone through a lot of those modules
> already. Though as of now we do have LW filters and Dual Cyclotrons.
>
> Take a look at our website http://www.analoguehaven.com/ear/ and you
> will notice that there are shopping carts saying either "email us
> for availability" or "in-stock add to cart". If it says it is in-
> stock then it was as of the store inventory the previous night. We
> update our carts daily and try to keep gear in-stock as much as
> possible. Occasionally we run out due to manufacturer delays or
> orders not coming in as soon as we projected but we do not keep
> carts up intentionally if we don't have stock.
>
> The next issue is regarding taking money and not delivering product.
> This is completely against what we are about so I don't know where
> you get this idea. We do not charge credit cards or accept payments
> until gear is ready to ship. In the case of some gear "coming soon"
> we will take a pre-order which reserves the product once it is
> available, but even for these we do not charge cards in advance. So
> I am surprised and confused by your statements.
>
> Regarding the modules on Ebay, these are done as a way of publicity
> for the Livewire + Plan B lines. These modules are shipping from
> stock. Why would we post auctions without having stock? In this case
> we'd surely receive negative feedback and we don't want that as it
> would harm our posivite reputation.
>
> > i dont understand whats up with people and these companies
> > myself.So much selfishness (there is No excuse for lack of replys
> > and trust me when i say that i am > finding this more and more via
> > the internet.Ignored emails ,especially in a business sense when
> > we try and get paid for our music from labels and when people have
> > nothing to give but only seem to want to take ! its not so common
> > from businesses trying to sell products though ! unless they
> > already had your money or have an inability to consider anyone but
> > themselves selfishness seems to be on the increase ...........does
> > it take that long to create a module.
>
> I do not like being discussed in the same message as this quote
> because we at Analogue Haven reply to emails very timely and answer
> all that come across as far as we know. Our customers know that I
> sit on email and answer it, usually exhaustively, as much as
> possible while orders are being packed at the store. And when I'm on
> vacation or not answering it, my business partner is. So this
> paragraph cannot pertain to us.
>
> Regarding building modules in a timely manner, yes we wish we could
> get modules faster and in larger quantities from the manufacturer
> but please keep in mind that these guys (Mike and Peter each) are
> doing everything solo for their company and it is a lot of work.
> They design the modules, they press the frontplates, they stuff the
> board (sometimes with assistents) and hand-deliver the modules to
> our shop. They answer your emails and then deal with tech support
> when we have users who either plug up a module incorrectly or have
> the occasional fault. These guys are dealing with everything
> including 50-100 piece module orders at a time from us as soon as
> they can fill them. And these modules are not simple, they are very
> complicated and take awhile to build + test. Mike and Peter are
> victims of their own success.
>
> Yes the people who have money out and have not yet received their
> modules should get more urgent replies, I understand that. And that
> is on Plan B and Livewire's shoulders as we had nothing to do with
> those orders. But things have gotten better since we've started
> distributing modules for them and they will continue to get better
> as Livewire and Plan B have more time to spend on engineering and
> manufacturing and less on sales and support as we have done that. If
> you have questions about their products not related to previous
> orders you can email us @ analoguehaven and we will reply fast.
>
> > I noticed that the link to Buy is now shot
> > http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030
>
> The reason for that is because Big City Music does not sell Eurorack
> Plan B or Livewire modules. We have that exclusive contract in the
> USA, with this complete responsibility, so the page was removed from
> their website. If you need a module feel free to email us to place
> an order or to buy the new ones we have on Ebay.
>
> > all very flakey .Shame - amazing sound from the osc.Ear look like
> > a bunch of space cadets to me and thats coming from one ! (who
> > does however reply to All emails and deal with people via a
> > business and run one )
>
> Thanks for the positive comments about the modules, features and
> sound.
>
> As I wrote about, if you are ready to order then you can contact me
> through the AH address.
>
> Regarding new product, both Mike Brown and Peter are hard at work on
> new modules in addition to fulfilling recent orders of the current
> modules so we should receive another shipment in end of June or
> early July. People who have expressed interest (but have not
> paid :) ) will be contacted once we have stock.
>
> Have a nice weekend and write if you need anything (yes, we even
> reply on Sundays).
>
> Thank you,
>
> Shawn Cleary
> www.analoguehaven.com
>
> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, q v s f u e k p s v h s l
> w <izimizam@...> wrote:
> >
> > well i looked at buying some plan b modules but after reading
> these posts and getting flakey feedback from Ear i didnt.I
> contacted Analogue haven a while back and it seems they have none
> in stock and a few orders and people waiting and yet they are
> taking money and selling modules on ebay still ? i dont understand
> whats up with people and these companies myself.So much selfishness
> (there is No excuse for lack of replys and trust me when i say that
> i am finding this more and more via the internet.Ignored
> emails ,especially in a business sense when we try and get paid for
> our music from labels and when people have nothing to give but only
> seem to want to take ! its not so common from businesses trying to
> sell products though ! unless they already had your money or have an
> inability to consider anyone but themselves selfishness seems to be
> on the increase ...........does it take that long to create a
> module.I noticed that the link to Buy is now shot
> >
> > http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030
> >
> > all very flakey .Shame - amazing sound from the osc.Ear look
> like a bunch of space cadets to me and thats coming from one ! (who
> does however reply to All emails and
> > deal with people via a business and run one )
> >
> >
> > Norman Fay <vietgrove@...> wrote:
> > I'm in a similar situation w/r/t 2 frac format
> oscillators. At this
> > point, having repeately emailed, and posted "paging peter G"
> messages
> > on AH, I just don't know what to do. Up to a point, communication
> > was excellent, then it just seemed to stop. Are my messages getting
> > spam filtered for some reason, what? Last I heard was in
> October '05,
> > when my VCOs were apparently complete & ready to ship, I paid the
> > balance as requested, since which time, black hole.
> >
> > Frustrating.
> >
> > On 4 Jun 2006 17:32:46 -0000, PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com
> > <PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is 1 message in this issue.
> > >
> > > Topics in this digest:
> > >
> > > 1. Paging Peter Grenader
> > > From: "cuari7" cuari7@...
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 9:18 am (PDT)
> > > From: "cuari7" cuari7@...
> > > Subject: Paging Peter Grenader
> > >
> > >
> > > I've tried emailing you, to no avail.
> > > Tried calling you; no answer, and answering machine is full.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to remain graceful about this, but it's really getting
> > > frustrating, man.
> > >
> > > All I want to know is when I'm going to get delivery of my
> modules.
> > > Prepaid IN FULL more than a year ago.
> > > You keep saying "give me a couple of weeks" all the time.
> > >
> > > Sigh.
> > >
> > > Please contact me: Phone#904-537-7876
> > >
> > > Email: diaz.jesus@... (in case it doesn't show, it is
> > > jesusDOTdiazATmayoDOTedu)
> > >
> > > jdiaz, aka cuari7
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> >
>
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Re: replys (from Analogue Haven)

2006-06-10 by david rothbaum

i would strongly second that. i have dealt with analog haven quite a
bit and have had across the board really great service. they are very
fair and there is in my experience no air of shady goings on or just
bad service as there so often is in the music gear world i.e. hidden
charges, selling stuff as new though it is used, saying they have
something in stock only to tell you they don't once you're in the
store, making you wait forever , not knowing what the fuck they are
talking about, etc.

for example i once had to wait in guitar center for over an hour to
get someone to help me, then when i was next to be helped in walks
david cassidy. of course they had to fawn all over him and my place in
line got trumped. i had to wait yet another 45 minutes and he didn't
even buy anything... i would venture a guess that if i was shopping
for something a.h. and david cassidy, leif garret or even the bee gees
walked in i would not be made to wait if i were next in line.

--david



--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> For the record, I'd like to put out there that I've had nothing but  
> best of breed treatment from Analogue Haven.  I'm always responded to  
> quickly, given great service, proactively contacted about any stock  
> issues with orders I've placed and dealt with in what I'd call a  
> generous way.
> 
> Best retailer I've ever patronized in this industry.
> 
> On Jun 9, 2006, at 2:02 PM, frequencysurfing wrote:
> 
> > hello,
> >
> > - Sorry if the following gets a little scrambled, I wrote from
> > within YahooGroups.
> >
> > From: q v s f u e k p s v h s l w
> >
> > I don't have any emails from you in my work inbox and you don't post
> > a name so I assume, like me, that you use an alternate email address
> > for mailing lists. I wanted to reply to your Plan B list email since
> > it concerns our business, Analogue Haven. I will write my comments
> > inline...
> >
> > > well i looked at buying some plan b modules but after reading
> > > these posts and getting flakey feedback from Ear i didnt.I
> > > contacted Analogue haven a while back and it seems they have none
> > > in stock and a few orders and people waiting and yet they are
> > > taking money and selling modules on ebay still ?
> >
> > I am sorry but you are mistaken. We have stock of all released
> > Livewire modules and most Plan B modules. The only Plan B module
> > that we are out of at this point, as of this email, is the Model 15
> > Oscillator. Although we are low on some stock because they are
> > selling very well and that means the filter and lowpass gates will
> > probably run out also within a few days. Mike Brown of Livewire just
> > dropped off an order but we have gone through a lot of those modules
> > already. Though as of now we do have LW filters and Dual Cyclotrons.
> >
> > Take a look at our website http://www.analoguehaven.com/ear/ and you
> > will notice that there are shopping carts saying either "email us
> > for availability" or "in-stock add to cart". If it says it is in-
> > stock then it was as of the store inventory the previous night. We
> > update our carts daily and try to keep gear in-stock as much as
> > possible. Occasionally we run out due to manufacturer delays or
> > orders not coming in as soon as we projected but we do not keep
> > carts up intentionally if we don't have stock.
> >
> > The next issue is regarding taking money and not delivering product.
> > This is completely against what we are about so I don't know where
> > you get this idea. We do not charge credit cards or accept payments
> > until gear is ready to ship. In the case of some gear "coming soon"
> > we will take a pre-order which reserves the product once it is
> > available, but even for these we do not charge cards in advance. So
> > I am surprised and confused by your statements.
> >
> > Regarding the modules on Ebay, these are done as a way of publicity
> > for the Livewire + Plan B lines. These modules are shipping from
> > stock. Why would we post auctions without having stock? In this case
> > we'd surely receive negative feedback and we don't want that as it
> > would harm our posivite reputation.
> >
> > > i dont understand whats up with people and these companies
> > > myself.So much selfishness (there is No excuse for lack of replys
> > > and trust me when i say that i am > finding this more and more via
> > > the internet.Ignored emails ,especially in a business sense when
> > > we try and get paid for our music from labels and when people have
> > > nothing to give but only seem to want to take ! its not so common
> > > from businesses trying to sell products though ! unless they
> > > already had your money or have an inability to consider anyone but
> > > themselves selfishness seems to be on the increase ...........does
> > > it take that long to create a module.
> >
> > I do not like being discussed in the same message as this quote
> > because we at Analogue Haven reply to emails very timely and answer
> > all that come across as far as we know. Our customers know that I
> > sit on email and answer it, usually exhaustively, as much as
> > possible while orders are being packed at the store. And when I'm on
> > vacation or not answering it, my business partner is. So this
> > paragraph cannot pertain to us.
> >
> > Regarding building modules in a timely manner, yes we wish we could
> > get modules faster and in larger quantities from the manufacturer
> > but please keep in mind that these guys (Mike and Peter each) are
> > doing everything solo for their company and it is a lot of work.
> > They design the modules, they press the frontplates, they stuff the
> > board (sometimes with assistents) and hand-deliver the modules to
> > our shop. They answer your emails and then deal with tech support
> > when we have users who either plug up a module incorrectly or have
> > the occasional fault. These guys are dealing with everything
> > including 50-100 piece module orders at a time from us as soon as
> > they can fill them. And these modules are not simple, they are very
> > complicated and take awhile to build + test. Mike and Peter are
> > victims of their own success.
> >
> > Yes the people who have money out and have not yet received their
> > modules should get more urgent replies, I understand that. And that
> > is on Plan B and Livewire's shoulders as we had nothing to do with
> > those orders. But things have gotten better since we've started
> > distributing modules for them and they will continue to get better
> > as Livewire and Plan B have more time to spend on engineering and
> > manufacturing and less on sales and support as we have done that. If
> > you have questions about their products not related to previous
> > orders you can email us @ analoguehaven and we will reply fast.
> >
> > > I noticed that the link to Buy is now shot
> > > http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030
> >
> > The reason for that is because Big City Music does not sell Eurorack
> > Plan B or Livewire modules. We have that exclusive contract in the
> > USA, with this complete responsibility, so the page was removed from
> > their website. If you need a module feel free to email us to place
> > an order or to buy the new ones we have on Ebay.
> >
> > > all very flakey .Shame - amazing sound from the osc.Ear look like
> > > a bunch of space cadets to me and thats coming from one ! (who
> > > does however reply to All emails and deal with people via a
> > > business and run one )
> >
> > Thanks for the positive comments about the modules, features and
> > sound.
> >
> > As I wrote about, if you are ready to order then you can contact me
> > through the AH address.
> >
> > Regarding new product, both Mike Brown and Peter are hard at work on
> > new modules in addition to fulfilling recent orders of the current
> > modules so we should receive another shipment in end of June or
> > early July. People who have expressed interest (but have not
> > paid :) ) will be contacted once we have stock.
> >
> > Have a nice weekend and write if you need anything (yes, we even
> > reply on Sundays).
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Shawn Cleary
> > www.analoguehaven.com
> >
> > --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, q v s f u e k p s v h s l
> > w <izimizam@> wrote:
> > >
> > > well i looked at buying some plan b modules but after reading
> > these posts and getting flakey feedback from Ear i didnt.I
> > contacted Analogue haven a while back and it seems they have none
> > in stock and a few orders and people waiting and yet they are
> > taking money and selling modules on ebay still ? i dont understand
> > whats up with people and these companies myself.So much selfishness
> > (there is No excuse for lack of replys and trust me when i say that
> > i am finding this more and more via the internet.Ignored
> > emails ,especially in a business sense when we try and get paid for
> > our music from labels and when people have nothing to give but only
> > seem to want to take ! its not so common from businesses trying to
> > sell products though ! unless they already had your money or have an
> > inability to consider anyone but themselves selfishness seems to be
> > on the increase ...........does it take that long to create a
> > module.I noticed that the link to Buy is now shot
> > >
> > > http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030
> > >
> > > all very flakey .Shame - amazing sound from the osc.Ear look
> > like a bunch of space cadets to me and thats coming from one ! (who
> > does however reply to All emails and
> > > deal with people via a business and run one )
> > >
> > >
> > > Norman Fay <vietgrove@> wrote:
> > > I'm in a similar situation w/r/t 2 frac format
> > oscillators. At this
> > > point, having repeately emailed, and posted "paging peter G"
> > messages
> > > on AH, I just don't know what to do. Up to a point, communication
> > > was excellent, then it just seemed to stop. Are my messages getting
> > > spam filtered for some reason, what? Last I heard was in
> > October '05,
> > > when my VCOs were apparently complete & ready to ship, I paid the
> > > balance as requested, since which time, black hole.
> > >
> > > Frustrating.
> > >
> > > On 4 Jun 2006 17:32:46 -0000, PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com
> > > <PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is 1 message in this issue.
> > > >
> > > > Topics in this digest:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Paging Peter Grenader
> > > > From: "cuari7" cuari7@
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 9:18 am (PDT)
> > > > From: "cuari7" cuari7@
> > > > Subject: Paging Peter Grenader
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've tried emailing you, to no avail.
> > > > Tried calling you; no answer, and answering machine is full.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to remain graceful about this, but it's really getting
> > > > frustrating, man.
> > > >
> > > > All I want to know is when I'm going to get delivery of my
> > modules.
> > > > Prepaid IN FULL more than a year ago.
> > > > You keep saying "give me a couple of weeks" all the time.
> > > >
> > > > Sigh.
> > > >
> > > > Please contact me: Phone#904-537-7876
> > > >
> > > > Email: diaz.jesus@ (in case it doesn't show, it is
> > > > jesusDOTdiazATmayoDOTedu)
> > > >
> > > > jdiaz, aka cuari7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: replys (from Analogue Haven)

2006-06-10 by imabadbadkat96

I also feel the need to voice my support for Analogue Haven.  I've only made a couple 
purchases from them, but the quality of service I got was top notch both times. I have also 
emailed them on numerous occasions about product availability, and had all my questions 
answered in a very straightforward/honest and timely manner. Analogue Haven is a dream 
come true for us synth/modular freaks, I'd hate to see their reputation tainted 
underservedly. Now, if they ever start jerking people around...well, that's a different story.

Re: replys (from Analogue Haven)

2006-06-10 by NoRMaN PHaY

Just to clarify my previous message, given the statements thatn followed:

1/I have never heard anything other than good things abt Shawn or
Analogue Haven.

2/I have no beef with Peter, who has always struck me as being a cool
and interesting person, I'm just frustrated at there seemingly being
no way of getting in touch w/the guy.  I just have no idea where I am
with this!  I don't really like posting this on an internet forum,
even.    But, short of taking the plane across the Atlantic, what else
can I do?

I checked PayPal - payment to Peter Grenader completed 22 Oct '05,
There's the email from Peter shortly before then, since which time,
nothing - Did they get sent and lost in transit?  I have no idea.

I know that this isn't some kind of flake-out deal, because I know
other people have got theirs, and AH has Plan B items in stock.  Which
obviously just makes it all the more frustrating.

Re: [PLAN_B_analog_blog] Re: replys (from Analogue Haven)

2006-06-11 by phil hendricks

On 6/9/06 7:58 PM, "imabadbadkat96" <imabadbadkat96@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I also feel the need to voice my support for Analogue Haven.  I've only made a
> couple 
> purchases from them, but the quality of service I got was top notch both
> times.

they are the best. it's that simple.
excellent all around in every way.
-phil

Re: replys (from Analogue Haven)

2006-06-11 by cuari7

I also want to clarify this.


My previously-voiced frustration is NOT at Analogue Haven (quite the 
contrary, people!). In fact, as we speak I have a few Doepfer 
modules on order with them, and just 2-3 wks ago I bought a Moog CP-
251.

Indeed, if they announce on their site that something is in stock, 
you order it and it will show up at your door in 3-4 days. Their 
service is superb, and I love their website.

My beef is with Peter Grenader.

I ordered directly from him in March of 2005. My original order was 
a custom job (four Model 15 oscillators in Buchla 200-type front 
panels). I was told originally that it would take at the most 8-12 
weeks. Months went by, and nothing. Nada. After months of excuses 
and aggravation, I told him that I would just settle for getting 
them in the standard eurorack format, as long as I got SOMETHING. He 
said "give me 2-3 weeks". This was about 6 months ago. Now I can't 
get hold of him.

This is the same reason I gave up on MOTM (except at least I did get 
quite a few modules from Paul before I got fed up with false lead 
times).

And so, I urge all of you guys: if the Plan B modules tickle your 
fancy, get them from Shawn Cleary. If he says he has them in stock, 
he ain't lying! But don't go through Peter.

Save yourselves a lot of grief....

And yes, Peter, I'm still waiting to hear from you.

Phone # 904-537-7876

email    diaz.jesus@mayo.edu

There. You can't say you don't have my contact information, man.


Jesus A. Diaz, aka cuari7

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