Modular Synth Panels

Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
I'd be good for 2.

clickmrmike

I'd take two.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 24, 2008, at 1:31 PM, "clickmrmike" <mrmike@...> wrote:

> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> I'd be good for 2.
>
> clickmrmike
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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----- Original Message -----

From: Scott K Warren

To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:45 PM

Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Quantix-8?

I'd take two.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 24, 2008, at 1:31 PM, "clickmrmike" <mrmike@clickbang. com> wrote:

> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> I'd be good for 2.
>
> clickmrmike
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>

I'm down for 2 as well

g wong

>
> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> I'd be good for 2.
>
> clickmrmike
>

On 24 nov 2008, at 20:31, clickmrmike wrote:

> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> I'd be good for 2.

One or two, sure!

Ben

Will and I would take 2 (Bill having consulted with Will)

Bill and Will



--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "clickmrmike" <mrmike@...>
wrote:

>
> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> I'd be good for 2.
>
> clickmrmike
>

I'm in for two. -- skw


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:23 PM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@...> wrote:

> Will and I would take 2 (Bill having consulted with Will)
>
> Bill and Will
>
>
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "clickmrmike" <mrmike@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
>> I'd be good for 2.
>>
>> clickmrmike
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Well, that's 14ish...
So, MIDI connector on the front or not? Like Marc, I'm wiring MIDI
internally, so I'd vote no. It can be drilled if you need it, bit
it's alot harder to fill in the hole :)

clickmrmike

--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott K Warren <scott@...>
wrote:

>
> I'm in for two. -- skw
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:23 PM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@...> wrote:
>
> > Will and I would take 2 (Bill having consulted with Will)
> >
> > Bill and Will
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "clickmrmike" <mrmike@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> >> I'd be good for 2.
> >>
> >> clickmrmike
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

hey folks - just wanted to drop a line on this. i too would be very interested in picking up

On 26 nov 2008, at 16:51, clickmrmike wrote:

> So, MIDI connector on the front or not? Like Marc, I'm wiring MIDI
> internally, so I'd vote no. It can be drilled if you need it, bit
> it's alot harder to fill in the hole :)

Midi on the front for me would be nice.

Ben

Whew, just got back from my 4AM trip to JC Penny. I got some underwear
on the cheap but had to elbow some ladies out of the way.

Looks like there's pleny of room for a Midi jack. How about a tiny
pilot hole? Then individual users could drill it out if they needed
Midi. I don't think a silkscreen label would be necessary.


Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
http://www.bridechamber.com
Jealous Edison Record Kompany
http://www.jealousedison.com

On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, clickmrmike wrote:

> Well, that's 14ish...
> So, MIDI connector on the front or not? Like Marc, I'm wiring MIDI
> internally, so I'd vote no. It can be drilled if you need it, bit
> it's alot harder to fill in the hole :)
>
> clickmrmike
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott K Warren <scott@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in for two. -- skw
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:23 PM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Will and I would take 2 (Bill having consulted with Will)
> > >
> > > Bill and Will
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "clickmrmike" <mrmike@>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> > >> I'd be good for 2.
> > >>
> > >> clickmrmike
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

You went out at 4AM on the worst shopping day of the year in the USA
to buy underwear? That's hardcore! I'd just go commando for the
weekend...

I regular MIDI jack hole is fine, and probably better than a pinhole
everyone would have to drill out. I would spec the connector hole,
tho - maybe use the same MIDI jack as the CVS. It doesn't look like
anyone else internally wires, and I don't need to connect it.

mr "Be free!" mike

--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> Whew, just got back from my 4AM trip to JC Penny. I got some underwear
> on the cheap but had to elbow some ladies out of the way.
>
> Looks like there's pleny of room for a Midi jack. How about a tiny
> pilot hole? Then individual users could drill it out if they needed
> Midi. I don't think a silkscreen label would be necessary.
>
>
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> http://www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> http://www.jealousedison.com
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, clickmrmike wrote:
>
> > Well, that's 14ish...
> > So, MIDI connector on the front or not? Like Marc, I'm wiring MIDI
> > internally, so I'd vote no. It can be drilled if you need it, bit
> > it's alot harder to fill in the hole :)
> >
> > clickmrmike
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott K Warren <scott@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm in for two. -- skw
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:23 PM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Will and I would take 2 (Bill having consulted with Will)
> > > >
> > > > Bill and Will
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "clickmrmike"
<mrmike@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> > > >> I'd be good for 2.
> > > >>
> > > >> clickmrmike
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

No, I was just kidding. I'm more of a Herberger's guy than JC Penny ; )

I'll go w/ regular MIDI then if no one objects.

Cheers,
Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
http://www.bridechamber.com
Jealous Edison Record Kompany
http://www.jealousedison.com

On Nov 28, 2008, at 8:28 AM, clickmrmike wrote:

> You went out at 4AM on the worst shopping day of the year in the USA
> to buy underwear? That's hardcore! I'd just go commando for the
> weekend...
>
> I regular MIDI jack hole is fine, and probably better than a pinhole
> everyone would have to drill out. I would spec the connector hole,
> tho - maybe use the same MIDI jack as the CVS. It doesn't look like
> anyone else internally wires, and I don't need to connect it.
>
> mr "Be free!" mike
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Whew, just got back from my 4AM trip to JC Penny. I got some
> underwear
> > on the cheap but had to elbow some ladies out of the way.
> >
> > Looks like there's pleny of room for a Midi jack. How about a tiny
> > pilot hole? Then individual users could drill it out if they needed
> > Midi. I don't think a silkscreen label would be necessary.
> >
> >
> > Scott Deyo
> > The Bridechamber
> > contact@...
> > http://www.bridechamber.com
> > Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> > http://www.jealousedison.com
> >
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, clickmrmike wrote:
> >
> > > Well, that's 14ish...
> > > So, MIDI connector on the front or not? Like Marc, I'm wiring MIDI
> > > internally, so I'd vote no. It can be drilled if you need it, bit
> > > it's alot harder to fill in the hole :)
> > >
> > > clickmrmike
> > >
> > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott K Warren <scott@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm in for two. -- skw
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:23 PM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Will and I would take 2 (Bill having consulted with Will)
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill and Will
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "clickmrmike"
> <mrmike@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> > > > >> I'd be good for 2.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> clickmrmike
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

Scott,

Are you gonna do the quantix-8 panels?

Cheers,

Dennis

--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> Whew, just got back from my 4AM trip to JC Penny. I got some underwear
> on the cheap but had to elbow some ladies out of the way.
>
> Looks like there's pleny of room for a Midi jack. How about a tiny
> pilot hole? Then individual users could drill it out if they needed
> Midi. I don't think a silkscreen label would be necessary.
>
>
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> http://www.bridechamber.com
> Jealous Edison Record Kompany
> http://www.jealousedison.com
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, clickmrmike wrote:
>
> > Well, that's 14ish...
> > So, MIDI connector on the front or not? Like Marc, I'm wiring MIDI
> > internally, so I'd vote no. It can be drilled if you need it, bit
> > it's alot harder to fill in the hole :)
> >
> > clickmrmike
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Scott K Warren <scott@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm in for two. -- skw
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:23 PM, "wjhall11" <wjhall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Will and I would take 2 (Bill having consulted with Will)
> > > >
> > > > Bill and Will
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "clickmrmike" <mrmike@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Any interest in a MOTM format panel for Marc B's Quantix-8?
> > > >> I'd be good for 2.
> > > >>
> > > >> clickmrmike
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Sorry for not getting back to you on that one. Been sick all week. Blech!

Yeah, I torched a polysty on mine too. That's probably the culprit. Polysty's and tantalums are bummin' me out lately...

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Scott Deyo wrote:

> Yeah, I torched a polysty on mine too. That's probably the culprit. Polysty's
> and tantalums are bummin' me out lately...

Speaking of tantalums, came across this interesting tale from
days of yore:

http://www.designnews.com/blog/Made_by_Monkeys/23362-Do_You_Want_Butter_On_Those_Capacitors_.php?nid=3073&rid=398497

--
Monty Brandenberg

I'd not use any tantalum caps. Their main benefit is the smaller size
vs electrolytic of the same specs. They also cost more. I have one of
my own tales from the days of yore. I used to hand-build audio and
video synthesizer circuits in the seventies. These were all prototypes
and needed plenty of power line bypassing. At one point we used a bunch
of 100 nf Panasonic tantalums. We might put 20-30 of them on a board.
And yes, they did fail by shorting out. But unless it fried and burned,
we could not tell which one failed. So, one by one, each had to be
clipped out until the bad ones were found. Then all the "good" ones
that had been removed too had to be replaced. Needless to say, we
stopped using the tantalums. If you do want to use some, I'd recommend
ones with at least a 35 volt rating.

Richard Brewster
http://www.pugix.com

mcb, inc. wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Scott Deyo wrote:
>
>
>> Yeah, I torched a polysty on mine too. That's probably the culprit. Polysty's
>> and tantalums are bummin' me out lately...
>>
>
> Speaking of tantalums, came across this interesting tale from
> days of yore:
>
> http://www.designnews.com/blog/Made_by_Monkeys/23362-Do_You_Want_Butter_On_Those_Capacitors_.php?nid=3073&rid=398497
>
> --
> Monty Brandenberg
>
>

The tants had a really good high frequency response IIRC -- good for
filtering out noise as well as 60Hz.

My technique was to follow the power buss on the circuit board and find an
arbitrary mid-point that was away from any critical wiring and use a dremel
tool to sever it.

Find out which half had the short and proceed until you had three or four
caps to test. Unsolder one lead and lift the leg and test the power buss
again.

I could usually find a dead cap in 10-15 minutes. A good friend of mine
nearly fainted when I dug into his Odyssey although he had thought the
problem was in the power supply and had disassembled it. Took me longer to
put that together than to find and replace the dead tant.

Scrape the traces on each side of the dremel cut and solder a bit of solid
wire to bridge the gap.

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Brewster
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:32 AM
> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] ChaQuo Wiring Question...
>
> I'd not use any tantalum caps. Their main benefit is the
> smaller size
> vs electrolytic of the same specs. They also cost more. I
> have one of
> my own tales from the days of yore. I used to hand-build audio and
> video synthesizer circuits in the seventies. These were all
> prototypes
> and needed plenty of power line bypassing. At one point we
> used a bunch
> of 100 nf Panasonic tantalums. We might put 20-30 of them on
> a board.
> And yes, they did fail by shorting out. But unless it fried
> and burned,
> we could not tell which one failed. So, one by one, each had to be
> clipped out until the bad ones were found. Then all the "good" ones
> that had been removed too had to be replaced. Needless to say, we
> stopped using the tantalums. If you do want to use some, I'd
> recommend
> ones with at least a 35 volt rating.
>
> Richard Brewster
> http://www.pugix.com
>
> mcb, inc. wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Scott Deyo wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Yeah, I torched a polysty on mine too. That's probably the
> culprit. Polysty's
> >> and tantalums are bummin' me out lately...
> >>
> >
> > Speaking of tantalums, came across this interesting tale from
> > days of yore:
> >
> >
> http://www.designnews.com/blog/Made_by_Monkeys/23362-Do_You_Wa
> nt_Butter_On_Those_Capacitors_.php?nid=3073&rid=398497
> >
> > --
> > Monty Brandenberg
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Ouch, that hurts... :-)

What I usually do is get a good DMM (a Fluke 45 in my case), and just
measure the resistance across all the caps. Yes, we're talking 10's of
milli-ohms difference here, but the lowest one(s) are easily found. If
you follow a power/gnd pair of traces, you can even see if you're
getting close because the resistance is getting lower and lower. Also
works when finding a bad chip with an internal short.

Ben

On 28 sep 2009, at 07:43, Dave Halliday wrote:

> The tants had a really good high frequency response IIRC -- good for
> filtering out noise as well as 60Hz.
>
> My technique was to follow the power buss on the circuit board and
> find an
> arbitrary mid-point that was away from any critical wiring and use a
> dremel
> tool to sever it.
>
> Find out which half had the short and proceed until you had three or
> four
> caps to test. Unsolder one lead and lift the leg and test the power
> buss
> again.
>
> I could usually find a dead cap in 10-15 minutes. A good friend of
> mine
> nearly fainted when I dug into his Odyssey although he had thought the
> problem was in the power supply and had disassembled it. Took me
> longer to
> put that together than to find and replace the dead tant.
>
> Scrape the traces on each side of the dremel cut and solder a bit of
> solid
> wire to bridge the gap.
>
> Dave
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>> Richard Brewster
>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:32 AM
>> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] ChaQuo Wiring Question...
>>
>> I'd not use any tantalum caps. Their main benefit is the
>> smaller size
>> vs electrolytic of the same specs. They also cost more. I
>> have one of
>> my own tales from the days of yore. I used to hand-build audio and
>> video synthesizer circuits in the seventies. These were all
>> prototypes
>> and needed plenty of power line bypassing. At one point we
>> used a bunch
>> of 100 nf Panasonic tantalums. We might put 20-30 of them on
>> a board.
>> And yes, they did fail by shorting out. But unless it fried
>> and burned,
>> we could not tell which one failed. So, one by one, each had to be
>> clipped out until the bad ones were found. Then all the "good" ones
>> that had been removed too had to be replaced. Needless to say, we
>> stopped using the tantalums. If you do want to use some, I'd
>> recommend
>> ones with at least a 35 volt rating.
>>
>> Richard Brewster
>> http://www.pugix.com
>>
>> mcb, inc. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Scott Deyo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I torched a polysty on mine too. That's probably the
>> culprit. Polysty's
>>>> and tantalums are bummin' me out lately...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Speaking of tantalums, came across this interesting tale from
>>> days of yore:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.designnews.com/blog/Made_by_Monkeys/23362-Do_You_Wa
>> nt_Butter_On_Those_Capacitors_.php?nid=3073&rid=398497
>>>
>>> --
>>> Monty Brandenberg
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

This was about fifteen years ago and I had a Beckman that was good but its
resistance measurement wasn't good enough.

The dremel works great but it is a bit disconcerting to see done...

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Stuyts
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:29 AM
> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] ChaQuo Wiring Question...
>
> Ouch, that hurts... :-)
>
> What I usually do is get a good DMM (a Fluke 45 in my case),
> and just
> measure the resistance across all the caps. Yes, we're
> talking 10's of
> milli-ohms difference here, but the lowest one(s) are easily
> found. If
> you follow a power/gnd pair of traces, you can even see if you're
> getting close because the resistance is getting lower and
> lower. Also
> works when finding a bad chip with an internal short.
>
> Ben
>
>
> On 28 sep 2009, at 07:43, Dave Halliday wrote:
>
> > The tants had a really good high frequency response IIRC -- good for
> > filtering out noise as well as 60Hz.
> >
> > My technique was to follow the power buss on the circuit board and
> > find an
> > arbitrary mid-point that was away from any critical wiring
> and use a
> > dremel
> > tool to sever it.
> >
> > Find out which half had the short and proceed until you had
> three or
> > four
> > caps to test. Unsolder one lead and lift the leg and test
> the power
> > buss
> > again.
> >
> > I could usually find a dead cap in 10-15 minutes. A good friend of
> > mine
> > nearly fainted when I dug into his Odyssey although he had
> thought the
> > problem was in the power supply and had disassembled it. Took me
> > longer to
> > put that together than to find and replace the dead tant.
> >
> > Scrape the traces on each side of the dremel cut and solder
> a bit of
> > solid
> > wire to bridge the gap.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> >> [mailto:ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Richard Brewster
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:32 AM
> >> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] ChaQuo Wiring Question...
> >>
> >> I'd not use any tantalum caps. Their main benefit is the
> >> smaller size
> >> vs electrolytic of the same specs. They also cost more. I
> >> have one of
> >> my own tales from the days of yore. I used to hand-build audio and
> >> video synthesizer circuits in the seventies. These were all
> >> prototypes
> >> and needed plenty of power line bypassing. At one point we
> >> used a bunch
> >> of 100 nf Panasonic tantalums. We might put 20-30 of them on
> >> a board.
> >> And yes, they did fail by shorting out. But unless it fried
> >> and burned,
> >> we could not tell which one failed. So, one by one, each had to be
> >> clipped out until the bad ones were found. Then all the
> "good" ones
> >> that had been removed too had to be replaced. Needless to say, we
> >> stopped using the tantalums. If you do want to use some, I'd
> >> recommend
> >> ones with at least a 35 volt rating.
> >>
> >> Richard Brewster
> >> http://www.pugix.com
> >>
> >> mcb, inc. wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Scott Deyo wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, I torched a polysty on mine too. That's probably the
> >> culprit. Polysty's
> >>>> and tantalums are bummin' me out lately...
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Speaking of tantalums, came across this interesting tale from
> >>> days of yore:
> >>>
> >>>
> >> http://www.designnews.com/blog/Made_by_Monkeys/23362-Do_You_Wa
> >> nt_Butter_On_Those_Capacitors_.php?nid=3073&rid=398497
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Monty Brandenberg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>