Modular Synth Panels

We need to look at a means df explaining changes to original designs and taking
resonsibilty for those changes. I would not have been able to finish my Threeler filter if
someone had not expalined how it was hooked up.

I am working on an Sn Voice right now that has instructions that called for 2 roatery, 2
types pf toggle switches. My panel calls for 4 toggle, I have another instructions that calles
for 3 toggle switches. This happens all the time.

DOES ANYBODY SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS ?

We should take responsibility for our ideas and share them properly and cleanly especially
with learners and young people.

There are several people who are making a life of this. It is getting bigger, more attention
and we have a chance to organise and disseminate ideas ans save people time, money and
misery.

We could call it finishing ?

What is the SN switch solution ?

gino

On 8/23/08, adaaxs <wonggster@...> wrote:

>
>
> DOES ANYBODY SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS ?
>

Yes,

dear wankster, You point Yer IE to electro-music.com

Samppa ;)

yo gino-

On 8/23/08, Scott Stites <scottnoanh@...> wrote:

> snip blah

It just feels so strange to a hold hand with people who don't know
where they are going. Please, Stay home.

Samppa

Gino,

You can try the horse's mouth as well (so to speak) for info:

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/scottnoanh/birthofasynth/id22.html

Cheerios,
Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "adaaxs" <wonggster@...>
To: <ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: [ModularSynthPanels] Expaning this forum


We need to look at a means df explaining changes to original designs and
taking
resonsibilty for those changes. I would not have been able to finish my
Threeler filter if
someone had not expalined how it was hooked up.

I am working on an Sn Voice right now that has instructions that called for
2 roatery, 2
types pf toggle switches. My panel calls for 4 toggle, I have another
instructions that calles
for 3 toggle switches. This happens all the time.

DOES ANYBODY SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS ?

We should take responsibility for our ideas and share them properly and
cleanly especially
with learners and young people.

There are several people who are making a life of this. It is getting
bigger, more attention
and we have a chance to organise and disseminate ideas ans save people time,
money and
misery.

We could call it finishing ?

What is the SN switch solution ?

gino

Yo Gino,

LFO range... I thought the rotary a waste of space, as we can get three
ranges w/ a center-off switch.
.047 is connected between the center lug of the switch and ground. That
is 'high', or center-off.
'med' connects the .47 in parallel, and 'low' connects the 4.7 in
parallel.
the 'med' and 'low' values will effectively be .517 and 4.747, but I
doubt anyone will notice.

We didn't really have room for the PWM rotary, so you can either use a
2p3t switch to make center 'fixed', or leave the fixed pwm off. But did
you really get an SN Voice for a boring square wave anyway?
: )

As for your general point, yeah, I get it. I figure that's pointed at
me, due to the Threeler and SN offenses cited.
: )
I have excuses, but they're just excuses.


Cheers,
Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
http://www.bridechamber.com
Jealous Edison Record Kompany
http://www.jealousedison.com

On Aug 23, 2008, at 10:57 AM, adaaxs wrote:

> We need to look at a means df explaining changes to original designs
> and taking
> resonsibilty for those changes. I would not have been able to finish
> my Threeler filter if
> someone had not expalined how it was hooked up.
>
> I am working on an Sn Voice right now that has instructions that
> called for 2 roatery, 2
> types pf toggle switches. My panel calls for 4 toggle, I have another
> instructions that calles
> for 3 toggle switches. This happens all the time.
>
> DOES ANYBODY SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS ?
>
> We should take responsibility for our ideas and share them properly
> and cleanly especially
> with learners and young people.
>
> There are several people who are making a life of this. It is getting
> bigger, more attention
> and we have a chance to organise and disseminate ideas ans save
> people time, money and
> misery.
>
> We could call it finishing ?
>
> What is the SN switch solution ?
>
> gino
>
>

Yes - thanks, Scott.

As one self-proclaimed idiot and both of us bona-fide noobies, I'd
like to point out that when we began this mad endeavor over a year
ago, Paul Schrieber encouraged Will and I to join and attend this
forum to get questions (most of them stupid) answered and advice in
building the modules. So it's always been my assumption that that was
actually part of what this forum is about, right?

And then, with a broader view, most of my life, I've learned the most
from holding hands with people who know the way better than myself.
Sometimes what I've learned is that I could figure out a better way
than I was shown. And then it's my turn to help out when I can.

As for staying home? No - I think not. I've done all kinds of stuff
in my life - always starting out not knowing what I'm doing. But I
did it anyway. For the first year I played guitar (when I was 11) I
tuned the guitar in my own tuning because no one told me how to tune
it properly. I made up my own chords, I wrote my own songs, I formed
and lead my first little rock-and-roll band. I didn't stay home. And
now, years later, having met and written and played music with most of
my heroes, I'm damned glad I didn't.

Bill





--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Stites"
<scottnoanh@...> wrote:

>
> Naw, everyone's got to start somewhere. I'm pleased to see Gino's

building

> an SN-Voice. He's got more guts and fewer questions than I had when

I first

> started. :)
>
> Cheerios,
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Samppa Tolvanen" <samppa.tolvanen@...>
> To: <ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Expaning this forum
>
>
> > On 8/23/08, Scott Stites <scottnoanh@...> wrote:
> > > snip blah
> >
> > It just feels so strange to a hold hand with people who don't know
> > where they are going. Please, Stay home.
> >
> > Samppa
> >
>

Gino,

Quite honestly, no i don't see where you're going with this.

BUT I'll put in my $.02 on a topic suggested by your subject line.
This particular group was originated primarily as a forum for folks
to share DIY modular synth panel designs... primarily in FPD format,
and primarily for MOTM style designs, tho not exclusively on either
count. Stooge panels was the other source for such panels at the
time, but for the most part these were complimentary rather than
overlapping endevors.

I'm very glad that Scott/Bridechamber has stepped up to fill the
void left by the end of Stooge industries, and I very much support
him and hope his business thrives. But (and PLEASE NOBODY
MISINTURPRET THIS AS A CRITICISM--IT IS NOT), I think this forum has
kind of morphed int a support vehicle for Bridechamber. Obviously,
nobody's preventing anybody from posting new FPDs or talking about
DIY panels, but the majority of traffic seems to be specific to
Bridechamber products and designs he supports, such as Ian's and now
Yves' (AGAIN, I AM SO GREATFUL FOR IAN AN YVES AND THEIR VERY
GENEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS).

So, bringing this back perhaps to Gino's subject line: I think a new
forum or yahoo group specifically dedicated to bridechamber product
support would be a Very Good Thing. Properly structured, it might
very well provide the kind of ongoing product specifc resource that
would benefit us all. Just my NSHO.

bbob drake,
www.fluxmonkey.com



--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <wonggster@...>
wrote:

>
> We need to look at a means df explaining changes to original

designs and taking

> resonsibilty for those changes. I would not have been able to

finish my Threeler filter if

> someone had not expalined how it was hooked up.
>
> I am working on an Sn Voice right now that has instructions that

called for 2 roatery, 2

> types pf toggle switches. My panel calls for 4 toggle, I have

another instructions that calles

> for 3 toggle switches. This happens all the time.
>
> DOES ANYBODY SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS ?
>
> We should take responsibility for our ideas and share them

properly and cleanly especially

> with learners and young people.
>
> There are several people who are making a life of this. It is

getting bigger, more attention

> and we have a chance to organise and disseminate ideas ans save

people time, money and

> misery.
>
> We could call it finishing ?
>
> What is the SN switch solution ?
>
> gino
>

Naw, everyone's got to start somewhere. I'm pleased to see Gino's building
an SN-Voice. He's got more guts and fewer questions than I had when I first
started. :)

Cheerios,
Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Samppa Tolvanen" <samppa.tolvanen@...>
To: <ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ModularSynthPanels] Expaning this forum


> On 8/23/08, Scott Stites <scottnoanh@...> wrote:
> > snip blah
>
> It just feels so strange to a hold hand with people who don't know
> where they are going. Please, Stay home.
>
> Samppa
>

I was just mentioning again in my usual ESL way how ideas don't keep up with the
hardware or designs or implentation.

The designs I mentioned are great and the people involved are outstanding.

I surely wasn't trying to upset anyone's sensibilities as many of you know that I would kid
around but never be rude or hurtful for any reason.

However I am a bit put off by Sammpa's crass immature attempt at cyberbullying, that is
well beneath the standards of this group as nearly everyone I have dealt with is a
gentleman.

>
> Gino,
>
> Quite honestly, no i don't see where you're going with this.
>
> BUT I'll put in my $.02 on a topic suggested by your subject line.
> This particular group was originated primarily as a forum for folks
> to share DIY modular synth panel designs... primarily in FPD format,
> and primarily for MOTM style designs, tho not exclusively on either
> count. Stooge panels was the other source for such panels at the
> time, but for the most part these were complimentary rather than
> overlapping endevors.
>
> I'm very glad that Scott/Bridechamber has stepped up to fill the
> void left by the end of Stooge industries, and I very much support
> him and hope his business thrives. But (and PLEASE NOBODY
> MISINTURPRET THIS AS A CRITICISM--IT IS NOT), I think this forum has
> kind of morphed int a support vehicle for Bridechamber. Obviously,
> nobody's preventing anybody from posting new FPDs or talking about
> DIY panels, but the majority of traffic seems to be specific to
> Bridechamber products and designs he supports, such as Ian's and now
> Yves' (AGAIN, I AM SO GREATFUL FOR IAN AN YVES AND THEIR VERY
> GENEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS).
>
> So, bringing this back perhaps to Gino's subject line: I think a new
> forum or yahoo group specifically dedicated to bridechamber product
> support would be a Very Good Thing. Properly structured, it might
> very well provide the kind of ongoing product specifc resource that
> would benefit us all. Just my NSHO.
>
> bbob drake,
> www.fluxmonkey.com
>

Ah ha! Well - yes - I thought I was looking at the MOTM group when I
made my last post. So the first paragraph about Paul having pointed
Will and me here is irrelevant, certainly - please ignore it. My
other two paragraphs aren't irrelevant.

But now, addressing Bob's post - yes - I get that this forum's really
about the panels - of course. But lots of questions come up when
designing a panel - and even when implementing a module considering
the panel - as to the modules's features and options as implied by the
panel design. To that extent, I see the value in those kinds of
discussions here. And I'm just playing devil's advocate a little bit,
I guess.

I also commpletely see your and Gino's point in suggenting the new
forum... but it's not really a Bridechamber support thing per se,
right? But I take your point.

You know - we probably need a Synth and MOTM 12-step program forum
most of all <G>.

Bill




--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "data2action"
<fluxmonk@...> wrote:

>
> Gino,
>
> Quite honestly, no i don't see where you're going with this.
>
> BUT I'll put in my $.02 on a topic suggested by your subject line.
> This particular group was originated primarily as a forum for folks
> to share DIY modular synth panel designs... primarily in FPD format,
> and primarily for MOTM style designs, tho not exclusively on either
> count. Stooge panels was the other source for such panels at the
> time, but for the most part these were complimentary rather than
> overlapping endevors.
>
> I'm very glad that Scott/Bridechamber has stepped up to fill the
> void left by the end of Stooge industries, and I very much support
> him and hope his business thrives. But (and PLEASE NOBODY
> MISINTURPRET THIS AS A CRITICISM--IT IS NOT), I think this forum has
> kind of morphed int a support vehicle for Bridechamber. Obviously,
> nobody's preventing anybody from posting new FPDs or talking about
> DIY panels, but the majority of traffic seems to be specific to
> Bridechamber products and designs he supports, such as Ian's and now
> Yves' (AGAIN, I AM SO GREATFUL FOR IAN AN YVES AND THEIR VERY
> GENEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS).
>
> So, bringing this back perhaps to Gino's subject line: I think a new
> forum or yahoo group specifically dedicated to bridechamber product
> support would be a Very Good Thing. Properly structured, it might
> very well provide the kind of ongoing product specifc resource that
> would benefit us all. Just my NSHO.
>
> bbob drake,
> www.fluxmonkey.com
>
>
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <wonggster@>
> wrote:
> >
> > We need to look at a means df explaining changes to original
> designs and taking
> > resonsibilty for those changes. I would not have been able to
> finish my Threeler filter if
> > someone had not expalined how it was hooked up.
> >
> > I am working on an Sn Voice right now that has instructions that
> called for 2 roatery, 2
> > types pf toggle switches. My panel calls for 4 toggle, I have
> another instructions that calles
> > for 3 toggle switches. This happens all the time.
> >
> > DOES ANYBODY SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS ?
> >
> > We should take responsibility for our ideas and share them
> properly and cleanly especially
> > with learners and young people.
> >
> > There are several people who are making a life of this. It is
> getting bigger, more attention
> > and we have a chance to organise and disseminate ideas ans save
> people time, money and
> > misery.
> >
> > We could call it finishing ?
> >
> > What is the SN switch solution ?
> >
> > gino
> >
>