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Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

2006-09-08 by Jim & Janet Strauss

So, I was wondering if you 'Tron erudite know what Pinder is trying to do 4:03 minutes into this song...
The video clearly shows him starting to play a nice 'tron riff, then after a bit of strings...nothing happens - and he reaches for the controls on the left side of the console and makes some adjustment ...and then finishes the song nicely.
On this model...(MKII?) I thought all the stuff on the left was that rhythm and fill stuff...not lead instrument channel selectors ....or did he have to hit the on/off switch?
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another Moody gem...no FAKE 'Tron here.

Well, this video is kinda foggy, and it's B&W...but it least it is a Mellotron (a MkII?) - instead of a Hammond B-3.
And it sounds pretty good cranked up.

Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

2006-09-08 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 9/7/2006 7:44:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
Str03@... writes:

 
 
 
So, I was wondering if you 'Tron erudite know  what Pinder is trying to do 
4:03 minutes into this song...
 
The video clearly shows him starting to play a  nice 'tron riff, then after a 
bit of strings...nothing happens - and he  reaches for the controls on the 
left side of the console and makes some  adjustment ...and then finishes the 
song nicely.
 
On this model...(MKII?On this model...(MKII?<WBR>) I thought all the  stuff 
on the left was that rhythm and fill stuff...not lead instrument channel  
selectors ....or did he have to






It's called A MISTAKE.  Mike starts to go into the ending MkII  riff 
prematurely on the RH keyboard and goes back to playing a lower  register drone note 
on the LH keyboard as you can see him doing earlier in  the song.  Yes, stock 
MkII's had rhythms and fills on the LH side;   Mike always had lead sounds on 
both keyboards.  The MkII with the cloth  covered back panel he is playing is 
likely the one, I believe, that Jerry Korb  is currently refurbishing.  (Jerry, 
can you confirm?)  I own the other  known Pinderton, #134, and the third 
known one he had (with horizontal slots on  the rear panel, in contrast to the 
vertical slots on mine), I think, was  destroyed in the Indigo Ranch fire along 
with a MkV.  Anyone know  otherwise?
 
Frank 1

RE: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

2006-09-08 by David Jacques

What he is trying to do is recover from a MAJOR fuck-up. He thinks the song
is ending and forgot about the repeat of the chorus. He plays the string
lead out and realizes that he screwed up and tries to recover. He makes
another screw-up at the very end. 

 

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On Behalf Of Jim & Janet Strauss
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:40 PM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com; Jim & Janet Strauss
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

So, I was wondering if you 'Tron erudite know what Pinder is trying to do
4:03 minutes into this song...

 

The video clearly shows him starting to play a nice 'tron riff, then after a
bit of strings...nothing happens - and he reaches for the controls on the
left side of the console and makes some adjustment ...and then finishes the
song nicely.

 

On this model...(MKII?) I thought all the stuff on the left was that rhythm
and fill stuff...not lead instrument channel selectors ....or did he have to
hit the on/off switch?

 

http://www.jyla. <http://www.jyla.nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv>
nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jim  <mailto:Str03@...> & Janet Strauss 

To: Mellotronists@ <mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:29 PM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another Moody gem...no FAKE 'Tron here.

 

Well, this video is kinda foggy, and it's B&W...but it least it is a
Mellotron (a MkII?) - instead of a Hammond B-3. 

And it sounds pretty good cranked up.

 

http://www.jyla. <http://www.jyla.nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv>
nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv

Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

2006-09-08 by Jim & Janet Strauss

Thanks guys...I guess that explains Justin's blank space...- a fast recovery attempt on that last verse..that for a moment almost wasn't there.
I missed that last screw up Dave..could you elaborate?
Frank1...must be nice to have a tron with a pedigree.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

What he is trying to do is recover from a MAJOR fuck-up. He thinks the song is ending and forgot about the repeat of the chorus. He plays the string lead out and realizes that he screwed up and tries to recover. He makes another screw-up at the very end.

From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim & Janet Strauss
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:40 PM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com; Jim & Janet Strauss
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

So, I was wondering if you 'Tron erudite know what Pinder is trying to do 4:03 minutes into this song...

The video clearly shows him starting to play a nice 'tron riff, then after a bit of strings...nothing happens - and he reaches for the controls on the left side of the console and makes some adjustment ...and then finishes the song nicely.

On this model...(MKII?) I thought all the stuff on the left was that rhythm and fill stuff...not lead instrument channel selectors ....or did he have to hit the on/off switch?

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:29 PM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another Moody gem...no FAKE 'Tron here.

Well, this video is kinda foggy, and it's B&W...but it least it is a Mellotron (a MkII?) - instead of a Hammond B-3.

And it sounds pretty good cranked up.

RE: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

2006-09-08 by David Jacques

At 4:27 Pinder jumps the gun once again and ends the song early. The rest of
the band follows him even though you hear another "You Know its True."
Pretty embarrassing.  

 

But we all make mistakes, and Mike Pinder's overall brilliance overshadows
this poor performance (IMHO).

 

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From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim & Janet Strauss
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:20 PM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

Thanks guys...I guess that explains Justin's blank space...- a fast recovery
attempt on that last verse..that for a moment almost wasn't there.

 

I missed that last screw up Dave..could you elaborate?

 

Frank1...must be nice to have a tron with a pedigree.

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: David Jacques <mailto:djacques@...>  

To: 'Jim  <mailto:Str03@...> & Janet Strauss' ; Mellotronists@
<mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:04 AM

Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

What he is trying to do is recover from a MAJOR fuck-up. He thinks the song
is ending and forgot about the repeat of the chorus. He plays the string
lead out and realizes that he screwed up and tries to recover. He makes
another screw-up at the very end. 

 


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From: Mellotronists@ <mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim & Janet Strauss
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:40 PM
To: Mellotronists@ <mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com;
Jim & Janet Strauss
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

So, I was wondering if you 'Tron erudite know what Pinder is trying to do
4:03 minutes into this song...

 

The video clearly shows him starting to play a nice 'tron riff, then after a
bit of strings...nothing happens - and he reaches for the controls on the
left side of the console and makes some adjustment ...and then finishes the
song nicely.

 

On this model...(MKII?) I thought all the stuff on the left was that rhythm
and fill stuff...not lead instrument channel selectors ....or did he have to
hit the on/off switch?

 

http://www.jyla. <http://www.jyla.nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv>
nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jim  <mailto:Str03@...> & Janet Strauss 

To: Mellotronists@ <mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:29 PM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another Moody gem...no FAKE 'Tron here.

 

Well, this video is kinda foggy, and it's B&W...but it least it is a
Mellotron (a MkII?) - instead of a Hammond B-3. 

And it sounds pretty good cranked up.

 

http://www.jyla. <http://www.jyla.nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv>
nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv

RE: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

2006-09-08 by David Jacques

Actually, if you watch the very end after the applause, you can see Ray say
something to Pinder about it. Kind of a dirty look. Pinder just looks past
him. ooooppppssss..

 

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From: David Jacques [mailto:djacques@...] 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:35 PM
To: 'Jim & Janet Strauss'; 'Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

At 4:27 Pinder jumps the gun once again and ends the song early. The rest of
the band follows him even though you hear another "You Know its True."
Pretty embarrassing.  

 

But we all make mistakes, and Mike Pinder's overall brilliance overshadows
this poor performance (IMHO).

 

  _____  

From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim & Janet Strauss
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:20 PM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

Thanks guys...I guess that explains Justin's blank space...- a fast recovery
attempt on that last verse..that for a moment almost wasn't there.

 

I missed that last screw up Dave..could you elaborate?

 

Frank1...must be nice to have a tron with a pedigree.

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: David Jacques <mailto:djacques@...>  

To: 'Jim  <mailto:Str03@...> & Janet Strauss' ; Mellotronists@
<mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:04 AM

Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

What he is trying to do is recover from a MAJOR fuck-up. He thinks the song
is ending and forgot about the repeat of the chorus. He plays the string
lead out and realizes that he screwed up and tries to recover. He makes
another screw-up at the very end. 

 


  _____  


From: Mellotronists@ <mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim & Janet Strauss
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:40 PM
To: Mellotronists@ <mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com;
Jim & Janet Strauss
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron
here.

 

So, I was wondering if you 'Tron erudite know what Pinder is trying to do
4:03 minutes into this song...

 

The video clearly shows him starting to play a nice 'tron riff, then after a
bit of strings...nothing happens - and he reaches for the controls on the
left side of the console and makes some adjustment ...and then finishes the
song nicely.

 

On this model...(MKII?) I thought all the stuff on the left was that rhythm
and fill stuff...not lead instrument channel selectors ....or did he have to
hit the on/off switch?

 

http://www.jyla. <http://www.jyla.nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv>
nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jim  <mailto:Str03@...> & Janet Strauss 

To: Mellotronists@ <mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:29 PM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another Moody gem...no FAKE 'Tron here.

 

Well, this video is kinda foggy, and it's B&W...but it least it is a
Mellotron (a MkII?) - instead of a Hammond B-3. 

And it sounds pretty good cranked up.

 

http://www.jyla. <http://www.jyla.nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv>
nl/MoodyBlues/video/NeverComesTheDay.wmv

Re: [Mellotronists] A Question of ...switches?...no FAKE 'Tron here.

2006-09-08 by Jerry Korb

MAinPsych@... wrote:
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>
>
> It's called A MISTAKE.  Mike starts to go into the ending MkII riff
> prematurely on the RH keyboard and goes back to playing a lower register drone
> note on the LH keyboard as you can see him doing earlier in the song.  Yes,
> stock MkII's had rhythms and fills on the LH side;  Mike always had lead
> sounds on both keyboards.  The MkII with the cloth covered back panel he is
> playing is likely the one, I believe, that Jerry Korb is currently
> refurbishing.  (Jerry, can you confirm?)  I own the other known Pinderton,
> #134, and the third known one he had (with horizontal slots on the rear panel,
> in contrast to the vertical slots on mine), I think, was destroyed in the
> Indigo Ranch fire along with a MkV.  Anyone know otherwise? Frank 1
>
> =============================================================
>
>
> Greetings  FS #1 and Gang,   Pindertron #2 (#210) here at the M-Ranch
> arrived  sans panel .   It now has what you can see in "Time Traveller"
> CD booklet,  replica cloth covered piece looking just like the original.
>
> That MK-II was the unit that Dave Kean helped retrace earlier this year.
> Previous owners besides the TronMeister were DK himself, and our
> dear-departed Mellotronist, Jimmy Herbst from Florida.
> Present owner has had it for approx 10 yrs.
>
> Nice to have  a Tron with a pedigree.
>
> Cheers, -- Jerry Korb (supplies pedicures for all Mellotron models)