Mellotronists

Martin-   can you give us an ETA of any pictures/previews of your 
latest brainstorm  the M4000? How about a charcoal sketch? :)

Hello Charles and all,
 

Martin-   can you give us an ETA of any pictures/previews of  your 
latest brainstorm  the M4000? How about a charcoal sketch?  :)


We have a very deliberate policy here.  The initial M4000 production  (which 
is significant for a first run) is sold and once those machines have gone  out 
to their new owners, we will let them do the talking.  Writing blurb  and 
offering less than complete images will not serve us well.  The  customers know 
what they are getting but not all the features!  The suprise  element therefore 
has to be maintained until this run is complete.  And of  course, bringing a 
new product to the market place is always fraught with  unforseen situations 
so we're a little late but better to be right than  rushed!  Apart from the 
keys, cabinets and motors, we do everything  ourselves from making the press 
tools, jigs and fixtures to pressing the  parts, milling the metal, turning the 
flywheels etc. etc.  It's a true  cottage industry and not an assembly shop.  
The pressure is intense but the  wait will be worth it.
 
Best,
 
Martin

 
STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
www.mellotronics.com

US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

gee- I guess us ordinary folk don't rate knowing anything about your 
new product. How is it the "initial run" is sold out before the 
thing is even seen or features disclosed? I certainly wouldn't buy 
anything without seeing or hearing it.




--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:
>
>  
>  
> Hello Charles and all,
>  
> 
> Martin-   can you give us an ETA of any pictures/previews of  your 
> latest brainstorm  the M4000? How about a charcoal sketch?  :)
> 
> 
> We have a very deliberate policy here.  The initial M4000 
production  (which 
> is significant for a first run) is sold and once those machines 
have gone  out 
> to their new owners, we will let them do the talking.  Writing 
blurb  and 
> offering less than complete images will not serve us well.  The  
customers know 
> what they are getting but not all the features!  The suprise  
element therefore 
> has to be maintained until this run is complete.  And of  course, 
bringing a 
> new product to the market place is always fraught with  unforseen 
situations 
> so we're a little late but better to be right than  rushed!  Apart 
from the 
> keys, cabinets and motors, we do everything  ourselves from making 
the press 
> tools, jigs and fixtures to pressing the  parts, milling the 
metal, turning the 
> flywheels etc. etc.  It's a true  cottage industry and not an 
assembly shop.  
> The pressure is intense but the  wait will be worth it.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Martin
> 
>  
> STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
> _www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
> www.mellotronics.com
> 
> US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ 
(mailto:JMoore6397) @...

> US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
> (mailto:pjc56@...)
>

In a message dated 3/2/2006 4:14:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

gee- I  guess us ordinary folk don't rate knowing anything about your new 
product. How  is it the "initial run" is sold out before the thing is even seen 
or features  disclosed? I certainly wouldn't buy anything without seeing or 
hearing  it.



I heard Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks, Mike Pinder, et al, couldn't wait  and were 
beating down the door at Rose Cottage to get one before the  masses.
 
FS 1

In a message dated 3/2/2006 10:55:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
MAinPsych@... writes:

I heard Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks, Mike Pinder, et al, couldn't  wait and were 
beating down the door at Rose Cottage to get one before the  masses.



No you didn't!
 
We all know that Streetly are going to fuck with us till they're done.  We'll 
see it when they actually build one that works. You can take all the  orders 
in the world but that means nothing. Right now, I'm selling out my first  run 
of guaranteed penis enlargers based on the principle of necessary gravity. I  
can't show them to you because I'm waiting for the purchasers of the first run 
 to brag about the sizes of their giant dicks. I always say, "let the dicks 
do  the talking."

In a message dated 03/03/2006 00:15:24 GMT Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

gee- I  guess us ordinary folk don't rate knowing anything about your 
new product.  How is it the "initial run" is sold out before the 
thing is even seen or  features disclosed? I certainly wouldn't buy 
anything without seeing or  hearing it.



We have a bunch of loyal and trusty clients from Europe and the US  who have 
visited, viewed the prototype and passed on the word to  others.  The outcome 
of this word of mouth approach has been  that we have an order book that we 
never envisaged but are happy to  have!  We can build without speculation which 
is a rare commodity.  We  can now speculate on the next batch.
 
Best,
 
Martin

STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
www.mellotronics.com

US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

> I heard Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks, Mike Pinder, et al, couldn't wait
> and were beating down the door at Rose Cottage to get one before
> the masses.

God...I hope so! Nothing would give new Streetly 'trons instant
credibility than gents of that repute putting their cash on the
barrel-head. No disrespect implied to the good folks building and
selling the Mk VI in my observation. I'm just excited by this news,
if it's straight up -- not that I can afford a 'tron of any vintage
myself.
-- 
Cheers,
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
Systems Theory internet music project links:
soundclick <www.soundclick.com/systemstheory>
garageband <http://www.garageband.com/artist/systemstheory>
"Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004
"Codetalkers" CD coming very soon in 2006
NP: the new David Gilmour solo album...very nice indeed

In a message dated 3/3/2006 5:00:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
paulm@... writes:

I always say, "let the dicks do  the talking."
 
and plenty of dicks on here doing  just that :o)
 
Best regards
PM
M400 #1380 (due for a refurbish  soon! Lucky thing!) 



Welcome to the club.

This type of response seems "snobbish" to me...and displays 
favoritism. 
 Would it really undermine your plans and your pre-sales to reveal 
details/photos about the instrument to the rest of us, just for 
curiosity's sake (and perhaps to inspire us to save our coins for a 
purchase as well)?


--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:

> We have a bunch of loyal and trusty clients from Europe and the 
US  who have 
> visited, viewed the prototype and passed on the word to  others.  
The outcome 
> of this word of mouth approach has been  that we have an order 
book that we 
> never envisaged but are happy to  have!  We can build without 
speculation which 
> is a rare commodity.  We  can now speculate on the next batch.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Martin
> 
> STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
> _www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
> www.mellotronics.com
> 
> US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ 
(mailto:JMoore6397) @...

> US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
> (mailto:pjc56@...)
>

In a message dated 04/03/2006 16:44:54 GMT Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

This  type of response seems "snobbish" to me...and displays 
favoritism.  
Would it really undermine your plans and your pre-sales to reveal  
details/photos about the instrument to the rest of us, just for  
curiosity's sake (and perhaps to inspire us to save our coins for a  
purchase as well)?



You don't get it and I can't be bothered to explain.  
 
Best,
 
Martin

STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
www.mellotronics.com

US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

well then....guess I'll be more interested in Markus and Dave's new unit anyway






--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:

>
>  
>  
> In a message dated 04/03/2006 16:44:54 GMT Standard Time,  
> charel196@... writes:
> 
> This  type of response seems "snobbish" to me...and displays 
> favoritism.  
> Would it really undermine your plans and your pre-sales to reveal  
> details/photos about the instrument to the rest of us, just for  
> curiosity's sake (and perhaps to inspire us to save our coins for a  
> purchase as well)?
> 
> 
> 
> You don't get it and I can't be bothered to explain.  
>  
> Best,
>  
> Martin
> 
> STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
> _www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
> www.mellotronics.com
> 
> US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
> US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
> (mailto:pjc56@...)
>

Actually I suspect you'll buy neither!

;-)


On 4 Mar 2006, at 22:48, charel196 wrote:

> well then....guess I'll be more interested in Markus and Dave's new 
> unit anyway
http://www.s-club.co.uk
        Sundae Club*
         PO Box 862
         Cheltenham
           GL52 2XT

well their website's pretty out-of-date and cagey as well!

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From: "charel196" <charel196@...>
To: <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:48 PM
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: M-4000?


> well then....guess I'll be more interested in Markus and Dave's new unit anyway
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:
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>> In a message dated 04/03/2006 16:44:54 GMT Standard Time,  
>> charel196@... writes:
>> 
>> This  type of response seems "snobbish" to me...and displays 
>> favoritism.  
>> Would it really undermine your plans and your pre-sales to reveal  
>> details/photos about the instrument to the rest of us, just for  
>> curiosity's sake (and perhaps to inspire us to save our coins for a  
>> purchase as well)?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You don't get it and I can't be bothered to explain.  
>>  
>> Best,
>>  
>> Martin
>> 
>> STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
>> _www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
>> www.mellotronics.com
>> 
>> US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
>> US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
>> (mailto:pjc56@...)
>>
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> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

you never know...it would be nice to have half a Mark 2 parked in my home one day....



--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, Colin Crawford <g-colin.crawford@...> wrote:

>
> Actually I suspect you'll buy neither!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> 
> On 4 Mar 2006, at 22:48, charel196 wrote:
> 
> > well then....guess I'll be more interested in Markus and Dave's new 
> > unit anyway
> http://www.s-club.co.uk
>         Sundae Club*
>          PO Box 862
>          Cheltenham
>            GL52 2XT
>

Meow.

In a message dated 04/03/2006 22:49:19 GMT Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

well  then....guess I'll be more interested in Markus and Dave's new unit  
anyway



Go for it!!
 

STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
www.mellotronics.com

US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

Must be nice to have so many potential buyers that you can afford to lose one



--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:

>
>  
>  
> In a message dated 04/03/2006 22:49:19 GMT Standard Time,  
> charel196@... writes:
> 
> well  then....guess I'll be more interested in Markus and Dave's new unit  
> anyway
> 
> 
> 
> Go for it!!
>  
> 
> STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
> _www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
> www.mellotronics.com
> 
> US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
> US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
> (mailto:pjc56@...)
>

In a message dated 04/03/2006 23:04:58 GMT Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

Must be  nice to have so many potential buyers that you can afford to lose  
one


It is.
 

STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
www.mellotronics.com

US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

Just a final comment.
 
This list represents people interested in mellotrons and we have  contributed 
over the years and given free advice.  However, we are a  commercial business 
that has the right to retain information until we feel the  time is 
appropriate to release it.  We make no apologies for this and it is  standard practice. 
 Vague promises of vague orders to make us reveal our  hand is duplicitous, 
underhand and deceptive.  It also lacks  intellect.
 
Martin

STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
www.mellotronics.com

US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

Let's just chill out and watch a video!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1gfiPx1yTY

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "ceccles_ca" <ecclesreinson@...> 
wrote:
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> Let's just chill out and watch a video!
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1gfiPx1yTY
>

Klaatu Barada Nikto! Great tunes!

I am interested in buying a prophet 5 for my home studio. Although it 
is not a mellotron I would think that it would compliment the keyboard 
department in any home studio. If anyone has one or knows of one 
available please email me off list.
                                                                      
Jimmy Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Kornowicz <kornowicz@...>
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 01:05:50 -0000
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: The Day The Earth Stood Still

   --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "ceccles_ca" 
<ecclesreinson@...>
wrote:
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> Let's just chill out and watch a video!
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1gfiPx1yTY
>

Klaatu Barada Nikto! Great tunes!







Yahoo! Groups Links

Martin-all I was trying to do was ask a simple question. All you had to say was that the 
unit isn't ready to be revealed yet....period. Your original answer made me feel dismissed 
as "not important enough" to show the product to. How do you know that I don't have 
enough money in my hands to buy 2 of your units?(I don't)  The point is that being polite 
and not displaying favoritism is something I learned myself working many years in retail 
music stores selling synths. 
  I applaud your efforts to make new machines and keep the name going. I had an M400 
for 25 years-the second one in Ohio in 1972. Since I now use the Pinder CD and other tron 
samples you know I still love the sound. When I get my dream studio together I intend to 
have a real one again as a permanent fixture. Good luck with your efforts        Charles

David Jacques wrote:

[snip]

> Frothing at the mouth for information of a new and better Mellotron
> is really quite silly. People dying for new trons is like people
> dying for new Hammond B3's. Hammond/Suzuki produced the new B3 a
> few years ago and the resulting product is vastly inferior to the
> original (I know as I own four B3's).

Me and my posse will be by your house this morning with a couple of
flatbed trucks to relieve of your "overstock" inventory!

<dons Adam Ant costume, waves water pistol>
-- 
Cheers,
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
Systems Theory internet music project links:
soundclick <www.soundclick.com/systemstheory>
garageband <http://www.garageband.com/artist/systemstheory>
"Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004
"Codetalkers" CD coming very soon in 2006
NP: nothing

In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT Standard Time,  djacques@... 
writes:

What do  you think you are going to get from the Tron Bros? Something  better?


Maybe!
 

STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
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US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

I don't see how it could be much better. I guess
that's what we are all talking about here. So much
talk and criticism pointed at the MKVI predicated on
the shipment of an instrument that has been "in the
works" for at least 6 years.

Meanwhile, MA has sold 60+ instruments, tape frames,
tapes, SMS boards, keyboards, new motors and HUNDREDS
of Pinder CD ROMS to very, very satisfied customers. 

With that in mind, it makes pretty good sense really
to build and sell a super exclusive, gold plated
capstan version to the very wealthy. There can't be
much "regular guy" market left.

Mark.
> 
> 
>   In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT
> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
>     What do you think you are going to get from the
> Tron Bros? Something better?
>   Maybe!
> 
> 
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In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:29:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
djacques@... writes:

What I don't  understand is with everyone is so damn upset with Martin 
regarding his  dissing of the group, why don't you just go out a but the Mellotron 
Mark IV  from Markus and Dave? This is a great machine with many improvements. 
What do  you think you are going to get from the Tron Bros? Something  better? 
 


In a message dated 3/5/2006 8:33:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
tronbros@... writes:

 
 
In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT Standard Time,  djacques@... 
writes:

What  do you think you are going to get from the Tron Bros? Something  better?


Maybe!

Without taking sides, I think there's a major point that's being  missed 
here, and that is looking at bigger picture as one of having competition  with two 
entities building new trons, which generally tends to feed of each  other and 
initiate further advancements and higher quality (and possibly  reduced 
prices in the long run), and choice for the consumer.  Not all  on this list can 
currently afford to buy a new tron, although of course a  percentage of them 
can, and that does not include those who may perhaps  want to sell their present 
400's for a new MkVI or M4000 (opening up  opportunities for prospective 
first-time 400 owners).  
 
I do understand the frustration people have expressed over Martin's  
whatever-you-want-to-call-it re: the M4000, as we've been promised new m/c's  since 
the first Toronto workship in 2000; BUT apparently finally coming to  fruition 
witnessed by Paul Marshall's recent posting (having seen AND played  one).  
 
Secrecy in business after years of development and before an  unveiling IS 
common practice (anyone here into cars?)  Who criticizes  Ford or Ferrari in the 
manner some here have.  While there's no  love lost between Streetly and 
myself, I have to side with Martin on this,  although also admitting that the 
present situation could have been handled  better from both sides, but again, 
remember the point that opened this  posting.
 
My question to Martin: Are there going to be be formal (and  objective) 
reviews of the new M4000 in industry publications (i.e.,  Sound-On-Sound, etc), as 
we saw for MA's MkVI?
 
Frank Samagaio
San Diego CA
MkII #134 / M400 #908
author, The Mellotron  Book

----- Original Message -----

From: David Davis

To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:39 AM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?

A free Rick Wakeman cape and ice-skating troupe with every 'tron?

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----- Original Message -----

From: tronbros@...

To: djacques@csulb.edu ; charel196@... ; Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 4:32 PM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?

In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT Standard Time, djacques@csulb.edu writes:

What do you think you are going to get from the Tron Bros? Something better?

Maybe!

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US West Coast Agent - Paul Cox pjc56@...

Yeah. The Enzo, 1 million+ and only to those invited
to purchase. 15K for a brake job on those ceramic
disks etc. EEEEK.

Mark

--- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:

> Yea I know exactlly about the Ferrari secrets and
> that's all I'll say, aside from good things come to
> those who wait.
> 
> Tony
> #510
> Ferrari 575M 130837
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: MAinPsych@... 
>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:18 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> 
> 
>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:29:14 AM Pacific
> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
>     What I don't understand is with everyone is so
> damn upset with Martin regarding his dissing of the
> group, why don't you just go out a but the Mellotron
> Mark IV from Markus and Dave? This is a great
> machine with many improvements. What do you think
> you are going to get from the Tron Bros? Something
> better?  
>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 8:33:20 AM Pacific
> Standard Time, tronbros@... writes:
>     In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT
> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
>       What do you think you are going to get from
> the Tron Bros? Something better?
>     Maybe!
>   Without taking sides, I think there's a major
> point that's being missed here, and that is looking
> at bigger picture as one of having competition with
> two entities building new trons, which generally
> tends to feed of each other and initiate further
> advancements and higher quality (and possibly
> reduced prices in the long run), and choice for the
> consumer.  Not all on this list can currently afford
> to buy a new tron, although of course a percentage
> of them can, and that does not include those who may
> perhaps want to sell their present 400's for a new
> MkVI or M4000 (opening up opportunities for
> prospective first-time 400 owners).  
> 
>   I do understand the frustration people have
> expressed over Martin's whatever-you-want-to-call-it
> re: the M4000, as we've been promised new m/c's
> since the first Toronto workship in 2000; BUT
> apparently finally coming to fruition witnessed by
> Paul Marshall's recent posting (having seen AND
> played one).  
> 
>   Secrecy in business after years of development and
> before an unveiling IS common practice (anyone here
> into cars?)  Who criticizes Ford or Ferrari in the
> manner some here have.  While there's no love lost
> between Streetly and myself, I have to side with
> Martin on this, although also admitting that the
> present situation could have been handled better
> from both sides, but again, remember the point that
> opened this posting.
> 
>   My question to Martin: Are there going to be be
> formal (and objective) reviews of the new M4000 in
> industry publications (i.e., Sound-On-Sound, etc),
> as we saw for MA's MkVI?
> 
>   Frank Samagaio
>   San Diego CA
>   MkII #134 / M400 #908
>   author, The Mellotron Book
> 
> 
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> What I don't understand is with everyone is so damn upset with 
Martin
> regarding his dissing of the group, why don't you just go out a 
but 
> the Mellotron Mark IV from Markus and Dave?

What I don't understand is why anyone thinks that Martin is dissing 
the group. I've never seen him do that. Instead, I've seen him 
provide the group with information and Mellotron trivia that has not 
been available from any other source.

He very politely replied to Charles' initial question giving sound 
business reasons why Charles' questions couldn't be answered yet. 
Those who have made serious private inquiries about the M4000 rather 
than merely expressing curiosity already know the answers.

I've only spoken with Martin once, but I've dealt with him via email 
over the last few years and have never felt dissed. In fact, quite 
the opposite. He has taken the time to personally insure that the 
products I've purchased from Streetly have been of the highest 
quality.

Bernie

In a message dated 3/5/2006 12:54:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kornowicz@... writes:

What I  don't understand is why anyone thinks that Martin is dissing 
the group.  I've never seen him do that. Instead, I've seen him 
provide the group with  information and Mellotron trivia that has not 
been available from any  other source.

He very politely replied to Charles' initial question  giving sound 
business reasons why Charles' questions couldn't be answered  yet. 
Those who have made serious private inquiries about the M4000 rather  
than merely expressing curiosity already know the answers.

I've  only spoken with Martin once, but I've dealt with him via email 
over the  last few years and have never felt dissed. In fact, quite 
the opposite. He  has taken the time to personally insure that the 
products I've purchased  from Streetly have been of the highest  
quality.

Bernie



Bernie, 
 
How can you have sold something yet not have a price for it? If the initial  
run is sold, then there must be a cost. Shouldn't there? And why can't we see 
a  photo of at least the outside?
 
Frank

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 3/5/2006 12:54:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> kornowicz@... writes:
> 
> What I  don't understand is why anyone thinks that Martin is 
dissing 
> the group.  I've never seen him do that. Instead, I've seen him 
> provide the group with  information and Mellotron trivia that has 
not 
> been available from any  other source.
> 
> He very politely replied to Charles' initial question  giving 
sound 
> business reasons why Charles' questions couldn't be answered  yet. 
> Those who have made serious private inquiries about the M4000 
rather  
> than merely expressing curiosity already know the answers.
> 
> I've  only spoken with Martin once, but I've dealt with him via 
email 
> over the  last few years and have never felt dissed. In fact, 
quite 
> the opposite. He  has taken the time to personally insure that the 
> products I've purchased  from Streetly have been of the highest  
> quality.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> 
> 
> Bernie, 
>  
> How can you have sold something yet not have a price for it? If 
the initial  
> run is sold, then there must be a cost. Shouldn't there? And why 
can't we see 
> a  photo of at least the outside?
>  
> Frank
>

Frank,

I'm not a spokesperson for Streetly, so you'll have to ask Martin 
those questions. I'm sure that the folks who have ordered the 
M4000's or who have inquired about them know what the price is. 

If you were to design a Mellotron, would you start with the cabinet? 
As an experienced restorer of Mellotrons, I would be willing to bet 
that you think the guts are more important than the cabinet design.

Bernie

The million dollar prices are for those who aren't in the circle.
It's not who you are, it's who you know.

Tony
Ferrari Owner's Club
Ferrari Club of America
Satisfied Mellotron owner
Very satisfied Ferrari owner

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>; <MAinPsych@...>; 
<Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?


> Yeah. The Enzo, 1 million+ and only to those invited
> to purchase. 15K for a brake job on those ceramic
> disks etc. EEEEK.
>
> Mark
>
> --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
>
>> Yea I know exactlly about the Ferrari secrets and
>> that's all I'll say, aside from good things come to
>> those who wait.
>>
>> Tony
>> #510
>> Ferrari 575M 130837
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: MAinPsych@...
>>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:18 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
>>
>>
>>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:29:14 AM Pacific
>> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
>>     What I don't understand is with everyone is so
>> damn upset with Martin regarding his dissing of the
>> group, why don't you just go out a but the Mellotron
>> Mark IV from Markus and Dave? This is a great
>> machine with many improvements. What do you think
>> you are going to get from the Tron Bros? Something
>> better?
>>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 8:33:20 AM Pacific
>> Standard Time, tronbros@... writes:
>>     In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT
>> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
>>       What do you think you are going to get from
>> the Tron Bros? Something better?
>>     Maybe!
>>   Without taking sides, I think there's a major
>> point that's being missed here, and that is looking
>> at bigger picture as one of having competition with
>> two entities building new trons, which generally
>> tends to feed of each other and initiate further
>> advancements and higher quality (and possibly
>> reduced prices in the long run), and choice for the
>> consumer.  Not all on this list can currently afford
>> to buy a new tron, although of course a percentage
>> of them can, and that does not include those who may
>> perhaps want to sell their present 400's for a new
>> MkVI or M4000 (opening up opportunities for
>> prospective first-time 400 owners).
>>
>>   I do understand the frustration people have
>> expressed over Martin's whatever-you-want-to-call-it
>> re: the M4000, as we've been promised new m/c's
>> since the first Toronto workship in 2000; BUT
>> apparently finally coming to fruition witnessed by
>> Paul Marshall's recent posting (having seen AND
>> played one).
>>
>>   Secrecy in business after years of development and
>> before an unveiling IS common practice (anyone here
>> into cars?)  Who criticizes Ford or Ferrari in the
>> manner some here have.  While there's no love lost
>> between Streetly and myself, I have to side with
>> Martin on this, although also admitting that the
>> present situation could have been handled better
>> from both sides, but again, remember the point that
>> opened this posting.
>>
>>   My question to Martin: Are there going to be be
>> formal (and objective) reviews of the new M4000 in
>> industry publications (i.e., Sound-On-Sound, etc),
>> as we saw for MA's MkVI?
>>
>>   Frank Samagaio
>>   San Diego CA
>>   MkII #134 / M400 #908
>>   author, The Mellotron Book
>>
>>
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This whole conversation just sounds pointlessly bitter for reasons 
that are beyond me.  I know there's a rivalry between two different 
companies that are making the same basic product...but this looks more 
like Monty Python's version of "The Battle of Pearl Harbor" with 
grumpy old women.
Long story short....I contacted BOTH companies inquiring about the 
purchase of a mellotron...Martin responded.  The other did not.  Had 
they done so, who knows what might have happenned.
But NOT responding to a potential customer is no way to make a sale.
I now go back to "lurkdom".

Brad

Right.
It's only 850K to those "in the circle".

Gotta get me one of them circles.

Mark.

--- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:

> The million dollar prices are for those who aren't
> in the circle.
> It's not who you are, it's who you know.
> 
> Tony
> Ferrari Owner's Club
> Ferrari Club of America
> Satisfied Mellotron owner
> Very satisfied Ferrari owner
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
> To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>;
> <MAinPsych@...>; 
> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> 
> 
> > Yeah. The Enzo, 1 million+ and only to those
> invited
> > to purchase. 15K for a brake job on those ceramic
> > disks etc. EEEEK.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Yea I know exactlly about the Ferrari secrets and
> >> that's all I'll say, aside from good things come
> to
> >> those who wait.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >> #510
> >> Ferrari 575M 130837
> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: MAinPsych@...
> >>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> >>   Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:18 PM
> >>   Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> >>
> >>
> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:29:14 AM Pacific
> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
> >>     What I don't understand is with everyone is
> so
> >> damn upset with Martin regarding his dissing of
> the
> >> group, why don't you just go out a but the
> Mellotron
> >> Mark IV from Markus and Dave? This is a great
> >> machine with many improvements. What do you think
> >> you are going to get from the Tron Bros?
> Something
> >> better?
> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 8:33:20 AM Pacific
> >> Standard Time, tronbros@... writes:
> >>     In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT
> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
> >>       What do you think you are going to get from
> >> the Tron Bros? Something better?
> >>     Maybe!
> >>   Without taking sides, I think there's a major
> >> point that's being missed here, and that is
> looking
> >> at bigger picture as one of having competition
> with
> >> two entities building new trons, which generally
> >> tends to feed of each other and initiate further
> >> advancements and higher quality (and possibly
> >> reduced prices in the long run), and choice for
> the
> >> consumer.  Not all on this list can currently
> afford
> >> to buy a new tron, although of course a
> percentage
> >> of them can, and that does not include those who
> may
> >> perhaps want to sell their present 400's for a
> new
> >> MkVI or M4000 (opening up opportunities for
> >> prospective first-time 400 owners).
> >>
> >>   I do understand the frustration people have
> >> expressed over Martin's
> whatever-you-want-to-call-it
> >> re: the M4000, as we've been promised new m/c's
> >> since the first Toronto workship in 2000; BUT
> >> apparently finally coming to fruition witnessed
> by
> >> Paul Marshall's recent posting (having seen AND
> >> played one).
> >>
> >>   Secrecy in business after years of development
> and
> >> before an unveiling IS common practice (anyone
> here
> >> into cars?)  Who criticizes Ford or Ferrari in
> the
> >> manner some here have.  While there's no love
> lost
> >> between Streetly and myself, I have to side with
> >> Martin on this, although also admitting that the
> >> present situation could have been handled better
> >> from both sides, but again, remember the point
> that
> >> opened this posting.
> >>
> >>   My question to Martin: Are there going to be be
> >> formal (and objective) reviews of the new M4000
> in
> >> industry publications (i.e., Sound-On-Sound,
> etc),
> >> as we saw for MA's MkVI?
> >>
> >>   Frank Samagaio
> >>   San Diego CA
> >>   MkII #134 / M400 #908
> >>   author, The Mellotron Book
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Don't know who you're talking to, but they're not the right people. It's a 
moot point anyway as they were presold awhile back. The new car is what's 
happening and I'm in the loop.
Tony
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>; <MAinPsych@...>; 
<Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?


> Right.
> It's only 850K to those "in the circle".
>
> Gotta get me one of them circles.
>
> Mark.
>
> --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
>
>> The million dollar prices are for those who aren't
>> in the circle.
>> It's not who you are, it's who you know.
>>
>> Tony
>> Ferrari Owner's Club
>> Ferrari Club of America
>> Satisfied Mellotron owner
>> Very satisfied Ferrari owner
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
>> To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>;
>> <MAinPsych@...>;
>> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
>>
>>
>> > Yeah. The Enzo, 1 million+ and only to those
>> invited
>> > to purchase. 15K for a brake job on those ceramic
>> > disks etc. EEEEK.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yea I know exactlly about the Ferrari secrets and
>> >> that's all I'll say, aside from good things come
>> to
>> >> those who wait.
>> >>
>> >> Tony
>> >> #510
>> >> Ferrari 575M 130837
>> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>   From: MAinPsych@...
>> >>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
>> >>   Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:18 PM
>> >>   Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:29:14 AM Pacific
>> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
>> >>     What I don't understand is with everyone is
>> so
>> >> damn upset with Martin regarding his dissing of
>> the
>> >> group, why don't you just go out a but the
>> Mellotron
>> >> Mark IV from Markus and Dave? This is a great
>> >> machine with many improvements. What do you think
>> >> you are going to get from the Tron Bros?
>> Something
>> >> better?
>> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 8:33:20 AM Pacific
>> >> Standard Time, tronbros@... writes:
>> >>     In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT
>> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
>> >>       What do you think you are going to get from
>> >> the Tron Bros? Something better?
>> >>     Maybe!
>> >>   Without taking sides, I think there's a major
>> >> point that's being missed here, and that is
>> looking
>> >> at bigger picture as one of having competition
>> with
>> >> two entities building new trons, which generally
>> >> tends to feed of each other and initiate further
>> >> advancements and higher quality (and possibly
>> >> reduced prices in the long run), and choice for
>> the
>> >> consumer.  Not all on this list can currently
>> afford
>> >> to buy a new tron, although of course a
>> percentage
>> >> of them can, and that does not include those who
>> may
>> >> perhaps want to sell their present 400's for a
>> new
>> >> MkVI or M4000 (opening up opportunities for
>> >> prospective first-time 400 owners).
>> >>
>> >>   I do understand the frustration people have
>> >> expressed over Martin's
>> whatever-you-want-to-call-it
>> >> re: the M4000, as we've been promised new m/c's
>> >> since the first Toronto workship in 2000; BUT
>> >> apparently finally coming to fruition witnessed
>> by
>> >> Paul Marshall's recent posting (having seen AND
>> >> played one).
>> >>
>> >>   Secrecy in business after years of development
>> and
>> >> before an unveiling IS common practice (anyone
>> here
>> >> into cars?)  Who criticizes Ford or Ferrari in
>> the
>> >> manner some here have.  While there's no love
>> lost
>> >> between Streetly and myself, I have to side with
>> >> Martin on this, although also admitting that the
>> >> present situation could have been handled better
>> >> from both sides, but again, remember the point
>> that
>> >> opened this posting.
>> >>
>> >>   My question to Martin: Are there going to be be
>> >> formal (and objective) reviews of the new M4000
>> in
>> >> industry publications (i.e., Sound-On-Sound,
>> etc),
>> >> as we saw for MA's MkVI?
>> >>
>> >>   Frank Samagaio
>> >>   San Diego CA
>> >>   MkII #134 / M400 #908
>> >>   author, The Mellotron Book
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
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oooooooooooooh Tony's getting 599??

CONGRATULATIONS!



--- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:

> Don't know who you're talking to, but they're not
> the right people. It's a 
> moot point anyway as they were presold awhile back.
> The new car is what's 
> happening and I'm in the loop.
> Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
> To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>;
> <MAinPsych@...>; 
> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> 
> 
> > Right.
> > It's only 850K to those "in the circle".
> >
> > Gotta get me one of them circles.
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> > --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
> >
> >> The million dollar prices are for those who
> aren't
> >> in the circle.
> >> It's not who you are, it's who you know.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >> Ferrari Owner's Club
> >> Ferrari Club of America
> >> Satisfied Mellotron owner
> >> Very satisfied Ferrari owner
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
> >> To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>;
> >> <MAinPsych@...>;
> >> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:45 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Yeah. The Enzo, 1 million+ and only to those
> >> invited
> >> > to purchase. 15K for a brake job on those
> ceramic
> >> > disks etc. EEEEK.
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> > --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Yea I know exactlly about the Ferrari secrets
> and
> >> >> that's all I'll say, aside from good things
> come
> >> to
> >> >> those who wait.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tony
> >> >> #510
> >> >> Ferrari 575M 130837
> >> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >>   From: MAinPsych@...
> >> >>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> >> >>   Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:18 PM
> >> >>   Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:29:14 AM
> Pacific
> >> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
> >> >>     What I don't understand is with everyone
> is
> >> so
> >> >> damn upset with Martin regarding his dissing
> of
> >> the
> >> >> group, why don't you just go out a but the
> >> Mellotron
> >> >> Mark IV from Markus and Dave? This is a great
> >> >> machine with many improvements. What do you
> think
> >> >> you are going to get from the Tron Bros?
> >> Something
> >> >> better?
> >> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 8:33:20 AM
> Pacific
> >> >> Standard Time, tronbros@... writes:
> >> >>     In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT
> >> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
> >> >>       What do you think you are going to get
> from
> >> >> the Tron Bros? Something better?
> >> >>     Maybe!
> >> >>   Without taking sides, I think there's a
> major
> >> >> point that's being missed here, and that is
> >> looking
> >> >> at bigger picture as one of having competition
> >> with
> >> >> two entities building new trons, which
> generally
> >> >> tends to feed of each other and initiate
> further
> >> >> advancements and higher quality (and possibly
> >> >> reduced prices in the long run), and choice
> for
> >> the
> >> >> consumer.  Not all on this list can currently
> >> afford
> >> >> to buy a new tron, although of course a
> >> percentage
> >> >> of them can, and that does not include those
> who
> >> may
> >> >> perhaps want to sell their present 400's for a
> >> new
> >> >> MkVI or M4000 (opening up opportunities for
> >> >> prospective first-time 400 owners).
> >> >>
> >> >>   I do understand the frustration people have
> >> >> expressed over Martin's
> >> whatever-you-want-to-call-it
> >> >> re: the M4000, as we've been promised new
> m/c's
> >> >> since the first Toronto workship in 2000; BUT
> >> >> apparently finally coming to fruition
> witnessed
> >> by
> >> >> Paul Marshall's recent posting (having seen
> AND
> >> >> played one).
> >> >>
> >> >>   Secrecy in business after years of
> development
> >> and
> >> >> before an unveiling IS common practice (anyone
> >> here
> >> >> into cars?)  Who criticizes Ford or Ferrari in
> >> the
> >> >> manner some here have.  While there's no love
> >> lost
> >> >> between Streetly and myself, I have to side
> with
> >> >> Martin on this, although also admitting that
> the
> >> >> present situation could have been handled
> better
> >> >> from both sides, but again, remember the point
> >> that
> >> >> opened this posting.
> >> >>
> >> >>   My question to Martin: Are there going to be
> be
> >> >> formal (and objective) reviews of the new
> M4000
> >> in
> >> >> industry publications (i.e., Sound-On-Sound,
> >> etc),
> >> >> as we saw for MA's MkVI?
> >> >>
> >> >>   Frank Samagaio
> >> >>   San Diego CA
> >> >>   MkII #134 / M400 #908
> >> >>   author, The Mellotron Book
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
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yeah, the MSRP might have been 650K, but NOBODY was
getting them for that price in the trades. It was like
the Ford GT, 139K factory price going for 200 plus in
every dealship in north america..ahhhh the life of the
privileged.

--- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:

> Don't know who you're talking to, but they're not
> the right people. It's a 
> moot point anyway as they were presold awhile back.
> The new car is what's 
> happening and I'm in the loop.
> Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
> To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>;
> <MAinPsych@...>; 
> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> 
> 
> > Right.
> > It's only 850K to those "in the circle".
> >
> > Gotta get me one of them circles.
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> > --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
> >
> >> The million dollar prices are for those who
> aren't
> >> in the circle.
> >> It's not who you are, it's who you know.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >> Ferrari Owner's Club
> >> Ferrari Club of America
> >> Satisfied Mellotron owner
> >> Very satisfied Ferrari owner
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
> >> To: "tony" <amoffet1@...>;
> >> <MAinPsych@...>;
> >> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:45 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Yeah. The Enzo, 1 million+ and only to those
> >> invited
> >> > to purchase. 15K for a brake job on those
> ceramic
> >> > disks etc. EEEEK.
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> > --- tony <amoffet1@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Yea I know exactlly about the Ferrari secrets
> and
> >> >> that's all I'll say, aside from good things
> come
> >> to
> >> >> those who wait.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tony
> >> >> #510
> >> >> Ferrari 575M 130837
> >> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >>   From: MAinPsych@...
> >> >>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> >> >>   Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:18 PM
> >> >>   Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] RE: M-4000?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 7:29:14 AM
> Pacific
> >> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
> >> >>     What I don't understand is with everyone
> is
> >> so
> >> >> damn upset with Martin regarding his dissing
> of
> >> the
> >> >> group, why don't you just go out a but the
> >> Mellotron
> >> >> Mark IV from Markus and Dave? This is a great
> >> >> machine with many improvements. What do you
> think
> >> >> you are going to get from the Tron Bros?
> >> Something
> >> >> better?
> >> >>   In a message dated 3/5/2006 8:33:20 AM
> Pacific
> >> >> Standard Time, tronbros@... writes:
> >> >>     In a message dated 05/03/2006 15:29:15 GMT
> >> >> Standard Time, djacques@... writes:
> >> >>       What do you think you are going to get
> from
> >> >> the Tron Bros? Something better?
> >> >>     Maybe!
> >> >>   Without taking sides, I think there's a
> major
> >> >> point that's being missed here, and that is
> >> looking
> >> >> at bigger picture as one of having competition
> >> with
> >> >> two entities building new trons, which
> generally
> >> >> tends to feed of each other and initiate
> further
> >> >> advancements and higher quality (and possibly
> >> >> reduced prices in the long run), and choice
> for
> >> the
> >> >> consumer.  Not all on this list can currently
> >> afford
> >> >> to buy a new tron, although of course a
> >> percentage
> >> >> of them can, and that does not include those
> who
> >> may
> >> >> perhaps want to sell their present 400's for a
> >> new
> >> >> MkVI or M4000 (opening up opportunities for
> >> >> prospective first-time 400 owners).
> >> >>
> >> >>   I do understand the frustration people have
> >> >> expressed over Martin's
> >> whatever-you-want-to-call-it
> >> >> re: the M4000, as we've been promised new
> m/c's
> >> >> since the first Toronto workship in 2000; BUT
> >> >> apparently finally coming to fruition
> witnessed
> >> by
> >> >> Paul Marshall's recent posting (having seen
> AND
> >> >> played one).
> >> >>
> >> >>   Secrecy in business after years of
> development
> >> and
> >> >> before an unveiling IS common practice (anyone
> >> here
> >> >> into cars?)  Who criticizes Ford or Ferrari in
> >> the
> >> >> manner some here have.  While there's no love
> >> lost
> >> >> between Streetly and myself, I have to side
> with
> >> >> Martin on this, although also admitting that
> the
> >> >> present situation could have been handled
> better
> >> >> from both sides, but again, remember the point
> >> that
> >> >> opened this posting.
> >> >>
> >> >>   My question to Martin: Are there going to be
> be
> >> >> formal (and objective) reviews of the new
> M4000
> >> in
> >> >> industry publications (i.e., Sound-On-Sound,
> >> etc),
> >> >> as we saw for MA's MkVI?
> >> >>
> >> >>   Frank Samagaio
> >> >>   San Diego CA
> >> >>   MkII #134 / M400 #908
> >> >>   author, The Mellotron Book
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
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> >> >
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Dear All,
 
I don't remember Yamaha being given any grief for keeping the DX7 a secret  
before launching it!
 
Quite a feat really, launched at a show, in stock at your local dealer. All  
this after Yamaha had apparently stopped making synthesisers completely.
 
Standard business practice, 'nuff said...
 
Norm

Yeah but Yamaha didn't tell people before they launched it. Martin and Co. have let the 
word out. All I asked for was an ETA and some details. 



--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, NormLeete@... wrote:

>
> Dear All,
>  
> I don't remember Yamaha being given any grief for keeping the DX7 a secret  
> before launching it!
>  
> Quite a feat really, launched at a show, in stock at your local dealer. All  
> this after Yamaha had apparently stopped making synthesisers completely.
>  
> Standard business practice, 'nuff said...
>  
> Norm
>

Speaking of cars..Warner Bros is issuing a special edition of
Frankenheimer's "Grand Prix" this year - it's about time...no vague
promises - honest!
 
Vance (where's the new Chamberlin...?!?)

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I echo Bernie's sentiments. Marty and John's efforts are of the highest 
quality and ethics. It's their machine, let them deal with it ANY way 
they want. Relax and enjoy it.

fritZ  M400#1697  ( a Streetly reburb that is still at the top of it's 
game)

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Kornowicz <kornowicz@...>
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:52:55 -0000
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: M-4000?

   > What I don't understand is with everyone is so damn upset with
Martin
> regarding his dissing of the group, why don't you just go out a
but
> the Mellotron Mark IV from Markus and Dave?

What I don't understand is why anyone thinks that Martin is dissing
the group. I've never seen him do that. Instead, I've seen him
provide the group with information and Mellotron trivia that has not
been available from any other source.

He very politely replied to Charles' initial question giving sound
business reasons why Charles' questions couldn't be answered yet.
Those who have made serious private inquiries about the M4000 rather
than merely expressing curiosity already know the answers.

I've only spoken with Martin once, but I've dealt with him via email
over the last few years and have never felt dissed. In fact, quite
the opposite. He has taken the time to personally insure that the
products I've purchased from Streetly have been of the highest
quality.

Bernie







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okay Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big announcement?  :)

"Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"    You won't get it!"

The clues are there on the web if you are minded to be looking for 
them. ....

Cx


On 15 May 2007, at 20:34, charel196 wrote:

> okay Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big 
> announcement? :)
>
>  "Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!" You won't get 
> it!"
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charel196 wrote:

> okay Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big announcement?  :)
>
> "Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"    You won't get it!"

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In a message dated 15/05/2007 20:39:14 GMT Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

okay  Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big announcement?   :)

"Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"     You won't get it!"


Just type "Streetly M4000" into YouTube
 
Norm

On 17 May 2007, at 19:58, NormLeete@... wrote:

> In a message dated 15/05/2007 20:39:14 GMT Standard Time, 
> charel196@... writes:
>> okay Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big 
>> announcement?  :)
>>
>> "Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"    You won't 
>> get it!"Just type "Streetly M4000" into YouTube

Can't say it clearer than that....

Cx

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Yeah, that tells us a lot. Sounds like a noisy drill to me.

 

With all due respect I have been hearing about this mysterious Mellotron for
years. I suggest that you all just quiet down and wait. If it shows up, then
great, if not. don't worry about it..

 

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From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of NormLeete@...
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:59 AM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] M-4000?

 

In a message dated 15/05/2007 20:39:14 GMT Standard Time,
charel196@... writes:

okay Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big announcement?  :)

"Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"    You won't get
it!"

Just type "Streetly M4000" into YouTube

 

Norm

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, NormLeete@... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 15/05/2007 20:39:14 GMT Standard Time,  
> charel196@... writes:
> 
> okay  Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big
announcement?   :)
> 
> "Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"     You
won't get it!"
> 
> 
> Just type "Streetly M4000" into YouTube
>  
> Norm
>

Norm, did you sneak that video with your camera phone when no one was
looking?

okay...so it's got a bicycle chain:)  Seriously,,,,somebody told me it's basically half of a 
MK2 in a 400 size box or thereabouts so this sorta confirms it.




--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques" <djacques@...> wrote:

>
> Yeah, that tells us a lot. Sounds like a noisy drill to me.
> 
>  
> 
> With all due respect I have been hearing about this mysterious Mellotron for
> years. I suggest that you all just quiet down and wait. If it shows up, then
> great, if not. don't worry about it..
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of NormLeete@...
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:59 AM
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] M-4000?
> 
>  
> 
> In a message dated 15/05/2007 20:39:14 GMT Standard Time,
> charel196@... writes:
> 
> okay Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big announcement?  :)
> 
> "Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"    You won't get
> it!"
> 
> Just type "Streetly M4000" into YouTube
> 
>  
> 
> Norm
>

I want one- it's killing me!!!
--- Bernie <kornowicz@...> wrote:

> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, NormLeete@...
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 15/05/2007 20:39:14 GMT
> Standard Time,  
> > charel196@... writes:
> > 
> > okay  Martin...it's been a couple of weeks.
> Where's the big
> announcement?   :)
> > 
> > "Information.....we
> want...information....INFORMATION!"     You
> won't get it!"
> > 
> > 
> > Just type "Streetly M4000" into YouTube
> >  
> > Norm
> >
> 
> Norm, did you sneak that video with your camera
> phone when no one was
> looking?
> 
> 
> 



       
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In a message dated 17/05/2007 21:44:28 GMT Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

okay...so it's got a bicycle chain:) Seriously,,,okay...so it's got a bicycle 
chain:) Seriously,
MK2 in a 400 size box or thereabouts so this  sorta confirms it.




It's a tiny mpeg shot with a small camera and a honky mic!  We are so  close 
to telling but not today.  And relax.................
 
Martin
 
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--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, NormLeete@... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 15/05/2007 20:39:14 GMT Standard Time,  
> charel196@... writes:
> 
> okay  Martin...it's been a couple of weeks. Where's the big
announcement?   :)
> 
> "Information.....we want...information....INFORMATION!"     You
won't get it!"
> 
> 
> Just type "Streetly M4000" into YouTube
>  
> Norm
>

Only one clip shows up, even though there are two.

Bernie