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From: "Ken Leonard" <ken@...>
To: "Mellotronists" <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Mellotronists] 'Tron hate...


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> At 08:17 PM 4/22/2005, you wrote:
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>>Somebody on the list (Ken Leonard?) has a great mp3 file of an A/B test of 
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>>real Mellotron and a sampled Mellotron (eMu Vintage Synth, if I recall)
>>posted on their site - about fifteen minutes of same phrases 
>>back-and-forth,
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> It's at the bottom of my Tunes page:
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> http://www.kleonard.com/kltunes/tunes.htm
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> It's M400 #805 vs. the Roland M-VS1.
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> Hmmm...Maybe the REAL comparison is comparing #805 to its sampled self
> (which I can also do on my PC)?  Nawww, I have to rearrange my sock 
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> Hey Jack:  BRAVO!  It sounds like you're really going to town on the 
> EMI!!!
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> M400 #805 - immortalized in MP3
> M400 #1037 - was NOT involved in the a/b comparison
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From: "Jack Younger" <e4103s@...>
To: <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:59 AM
Subject: [Mellotronists] 'Tron hate...


> Hello again,
>      I love to watch the fur fly!  Scathing commentary!

Nah, this isn't fur flying...  :-)

>      I have a friend as well, who swears by the sample.  He also swears by
> protools and I, in turn, swear at him, as a result.  At one point, during
a heated
> analog vs digital argument, of which we seem to have an unending supply, I
> mentioned recently aquiring my EMI.  He came over with his infernal laptop
> and we set to comparing the two through my studio's monitors.  To his
> embarassment, the real thing won, of course.  More body and dynamics.  The
> samples were flat and grainy, while the EMI seemed to breathe the notes
forth
> like surging ocean waves.  We have not argued about such things since.
> Mellotron - 1, Sampletank - 0.

Heh heh heh. Yeah, when neo-prog troupe Galahad (stop laughing at the back)
recorded with mine a few years back, they were of a mind to only replace the
already-recorded 'Tron string samples, leaving the choirs, "'Cos they sound
fine". Until the dreaded A-B comparison. Heh heh heh. Cue replacement of all
samples.

>      I hope to make a few of my more Mellotron-oriented albums available
by
> MP3 shortly, so that I may enjoy the spit and daggers of opinion, as well.
The
> reviews from this group are always so refreshingly raw and unabashed.

I've obviously missed a posting here, Jack - what's available, and where can
I get it?

Andy T.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Younger <e4103s@...>
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:59:47 -0000
Subject: [Mellotronists] 'Tron hate...


Hello again,
      I love to watch the fur fly!  Scathing commentary!  It's funny, 
one can
liken a
Mellotron to a beloved pet or child.  Stories of abuse bring fierce and 
bileous
retribution on the offender.
     One could argue (although I'm not one to do so, so please don't 
crack the
whip) that the 'tron is simply a machine, a thing.  I, for one, could 
never,
after
all the work, toil and love dumped into the ridiculous box, consider 
mine
anything other than a kind of grail of sound.
      I have a friend as well, who swears by the sample.  He also swears 
by
protools and I, in turn, swear at him, as a result.  At one point, 
during a
heated
analog vs digital argument, of which we seem to have an unending 
supply, I
mentioned recently aquiring my EMI.  He came over with his infernal 
laptop
and we set to comparing the two through my studio's monitors.  To his
embarassment, the real thing won, of course.  More body and dynamics.  
The
samples were flat and grainy, while the EMI seemed to breathe the notes 
forth
like surging ocean waves.  We have not argued about such things since.
Mellotron - 1, Sampletank - 0.
      I hope to make a few of my more Mellotron-oriented albums 
available by
MP3 shortly, so that I may enjoy the spit and daggers of opinion, as 
well.  The
reviews from this group are always so refreshingly raw and unabashed.
      That's all for now.  The Bastard EMI (#103) is currently awaiting 
more
parts,
keys as straight and soft as the best trouser-crease, I'm proud to say. 
 Much
thanks to Markus for his brilliant guidance.  I will post a link on my 
new site
with before, during and after pics in the summer, upon it's glorious 
completion.
Cheers!
-Jack Younger








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To: <jonesalley@...>; <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] 'Tron hate...


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> From: jonesalley <jonesalley@...>
> To: Mellotronists <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:17:52 -0500
> Subject: Fw: [Mellotronists] 'Tron hate...
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>    Somebody on the list (Ken Leonard?) has a great mp3 file of an A/B
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> real Mellotron and a sampled Mellotron (eMu Vintage Synth, if I recall)
> posted on their site - about fifteen minutes of same phrases
> back-and-forth,
> and there is NO comparison in this totally unfair competition. It's Ayn
> Rand's "principle of identity" in action.  Real is real.  Anything else
> isn't.  There are people who prefer fake flowers, for some strange
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