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Re: [Mellotronists] Zeppelin tron?

Re: [Mellotronists] Zeppelin tron?

2003-03-31 by ferrograph@aol.com

<<Is that a 'tron mixed in with everything else in the twiddly bits of 
Zepplin's "Kashmir"?>>

I tried to find out a bit about this machine a few years back- the drummer of 
the band I played bass in was married to jpj's daughter... his huge kit 
included the gong that's visible on the back of "ummagumma", but he was 
unable to shed any light on the disposition of the 400 that's in plain view 
in much of the later footage of zeppelin. I think jpj went off them too... 
didn't mr page get custody after jpj got his big yamaha?

roadies, from what I have gathered over the years, had a good deal less 
respect for gear back then, and the 400 particularly occupied an unfortunate 
position in the hierarchy... it was as awkward a lift as anything y'r average 
roadie would encounter, and yet weighed about the same as an ampeg svt bass 
amp. the precise alignment of it's internal workings (which, as we all now 
know, is the very root of it's success or failure) weren't as obviously 
important as, say, the setup of a guitar, when if they had been, perhaps 
players like jpj and rick wakeman might not have gone on record badmouthing 
the thing. so they got knocked about a bit, in a way that the nearest 
technical equivalent (a 1/4" machine- a revox, say) wouldn't have. dave 
greenslade's roadies (one of whom works at mtv now) used to take the frames 
out after every show and would sometimes "forget" to put them back if the 
machine was misbehaving.

has anyone ever attached handles to the ends of a 400, or machined some 
picky-uppy slots (such as one might find in the back of a wooden chair) into 
the ends? some decent handles might've been the saving of a few 400's.

d/400nr1098- bloodied but unbowed.

Re: Zeppelin tron?

2003-03-31 by ceccles_ca

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, ferrograph@a... wrote:
"...has anyone ever attached handles to the ends of a 400, or 
machined some picky-uppy slots....."

Frank's Mellotron Book, page 45, shows a Mellotron dual manual Mark 
V, Owned by Jimmy Page.  Was this great Mellotron used on any 
recordings?  Funny enough, it appears to have your "picky-uppy slots" 
in the sides.

Clay

[Mellotronists] Zeppelin tron?

2003-03-31 by tron@blackcat.demon.co.uk

> I think jpj went off them too...didn't mr page get custody after jpj
> got his big yamaha?

JPJ absolutely -hated- the instrument.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

Re: [Mellotronists] Zeppelin tron?

2003-03-31 by Jeff Coulter

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 ferrograph@... wrote:

> has anyone ever attached handles to the ends of a 400, or machined some 
> picky-uppy slots (such as one might find in the back of a wooden chair) into 
> the ends? some decent handles might've been the saving of a few 400's.
> 
> d/400nr1098- bloodied but unbowed.


one of the machines that showed up at the philly tron-a-thon had handles
on the ends (sides?). if i recall, they were not put in very carefully.
(careless work both inside and out have been the curse of many trons :( )

i have picked up and carried my m400 up flights of stairs alone.
i am not very strong (that i am aware of at least).
it was not easy, and much huffin' and a puffin' ensued thereafter,
but are these really THAT hard to move around?

...jeff
m400 #364
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Re: [Mellotronists] Zeppelin tron?

2003-04-01 by Alan Neva

My M400 is more awkward than heavy....so handles make sense.......the B-3
was certainly Hefty....but one of the heaviest things I've ever had to carry
was some lead singer or guitar player's EGO for 5 hours a night......

Just a burst from the rhythm section.....  I'll get my coat, too....

Al  M400S  #343
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From: Jeff Coulter
Date: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:52:00
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Zeppelin tron?

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 ferrograph@... wrote:

> has anyone ever attached handles to the ends of a 400, or machined some 
> picky-uppy slots (such as one might find in the back of a wooden chair)
into 
> the ends? some decent handles might've been the saving of a few 400's.
> 
> d/400nr1098- bloodied but unbowed.


one of the machines that showed up at the philly tron-a-thon had handles
on the ends (sides?). if i recall, they were not put in very carefully.
(careless work both inside and out have been the curse of many trons :( )

i have picked up and carried my m400 up flights of stairs alone.
i am not very strong (that i am aware of at least).
it was not easy, and much huffin' and a puffin' ensued thereafter,
but are these really THAT hard to move around?

....jeff
m400 #364


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Re: [Mellotronists] Zeppelin tron?

2003-04-04 by NormLeete@aol.com

In a message dated 31/03/03 20:30:31 GMT Daylight Time, ferrograph@... writes:
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has anyone ever attached handles to the ends of a 400, or machined some
picky-uppy slots (such as one might find in the back of a wooden chair) into
the ends? some decent handles might've been the saving of a few 400's.

Dear All,

The ex-BJH machine has proper picky-uppy slots in the rear in the same place that my EMI machine had air vents. There are additional wooden surrounds inside and out to strengthen the arrangement and make it more comfy to hold. This makes lifting it easier which is a good thing as this one seems to be a fair bit heavier than a standard M400.

All the best,
Norm

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