Mellotronists

Why all the fuss about that song anyway?! There are a MILLION lesser
known pych and prog records that are SMASHING this song to pieces,
straight up. I could fill a book with examples, dont make me!

Am I the only one who thinks Moody Blues were just OK in retrospect?
Or could it be that Pinder is getting bonus points from you guys just
because he had a tron? Imagine if someone like Stevie Wonder was using
a mellotron with T.O.N.T.O. Hmm...

Bazz

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, Bob Vandiver <bob_vandiver@...>
wrote:
>
> > Hi Bob,
> > I have no orchestral background at all, but I was going to ask
where do
> > you hear an oboe in Tuesday Afternoon?  It's one of my favorite
Moodies
> > tracks, but over the years I've never detected an oboe sound in there.
> > Roughly how many seconds in does it appear?  There's a part that would
> > be natural for oboe at the beginning of the verse after JH sings the
> > word TUESDAY and Mike Pinder plays what sounds like C,D,C,Bb,A and
then
> > the word AFTERNOON which Pinder follows with C, D,C, Bb,G.  If that's
> > what you're referring to, it still sounds like Tenor Sax and Three
> > violins mixed to me.
> > curiously yours,
> > john b
> 
> 
> Well, it sounds oboe-esque to me and it is heard pretty much from
the start.
> Bear in mind that I first heard Tuesday Afternoon when I was in the 5th
> grade and the sound as far as I could tell was that of an oboe and
that is
> the concept that stayed locked in what passes for my brain. I
wouldn't learn
> about the Mellotron for another seven years.
> 
> Anyways, the suggestion that the sound is actually that of a sax
makes good
> sense, especially as the sound seems to be played a little north of its
> natural range.
> 
> I want to thank everybody for your replies,
> 
> Bob Vandiver
> 
> -- 
> 
> "Mentioning Jesus in your speech, that's small government. Doing
what Jesus
> asks, that's big government."
> 
> Stephen Colbert, 6/20/06
> 
> > 
> > MAinPsych@... wrote:
> >> In a message dated 3/13/2007 6:01:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> >> rick@... writes:
> >> 
> >>     If memory and ears serves, that's a real oboe played by Mssr. Ray
> >>     Thomas. There was no mellotron oboe at that point, and in
> >>     listening to the recording, it sounds to me like the real deal.
> >>     The percussive sound is "key clack" because he must be squeezing
> >>     the hell out of the poor thing. The pinched quality of the tone
> >>     also leads me to that conclusion.
> >> 
> >> ** 
> >> *Sorry, Rick, but I respectfully beg to differ, and I have an
> >> orchestral background as well.  You are correct in that there was no
> >> Oboe sound for the MkII at that time.  I think it's been long
> >> established that the "other" Tuesday Afternoon sound is Tenor Sax
> >> (Station 2, Track 3 on Mike's standard MkII tapes (although live
> >> recordings show that Mike only played 3 Violins despite having
> >> identical tapes on both keyboards -- go figure).  Check it out
> >> directly if you have both sounds in your SFX m/c.  I first heard this
> >> sound alone playing Justin Mayer's MkII and was blown away at the
> >> discovery, having originally thought that it was something like muted
> >> trumpet.  I later recorded both sounds (the TA intro) when I got the
> >> Pinder CD-ROM and THAT was the sound.  You can hear that it's the
> >> Tenor Sax sound more prominently in later recordings (e.g., alternate
> >> takes, the MFSL disk).  The new Classic Artists Moodies DVD and my
> >> interview with Tony Clarke confirm that Ray's exposure to the oboe
> >> (bleeding lips and all) was not until ISOTLC, where he dubbed them
> >> "the world's smallest orchestra".  Mike also used the Tenor Sax sound
> >> on the break in "Evening (Time To Get Away)" on DOFP, and on "Lazy
> >> Day" from OTTOAD.*
> >> ** 
> >> *Cheers,*
> >> *Frank*
> >>
>