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2002-05-07 by dbarton62
Hey gang,
Just got my fuel cell back from getting cleaned and leak checked
.........either side of the filler neck there is a male .125-27 npt
fitting ..........I assume one is for line feed and the other is for
venting........neither of the ports extends deep enough into the tank
to act as a pickup .......is this correct? If so is there that much
suction in the line to pull the fuel through even at low fuel levels.?
Cheers Dave #55772002-05-07 by Mike Denman
----- Original Message -----From: dbarton62Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:20 AMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel CellHey gang,
Just got my fuel cell back from getting cleaned and leak checked
.........either side of the filler neck there is a male .125-27 npt
fitting ..........I assume one is for line feed and the other is for
venting........neither of the ports extends deep enough into the tank
to act as a pickup .......is this correct? If so is there that much
suction in the line to pull the fuel through even at low fuel levels.?
Cheers Dave #5577
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2002-05-08 by Jack Myers
----- Original Message -----From: Mike DenmanSent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:52 AMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel CellHi Dave,The fuel tank in my car has the same arrangement as you describe. One side is plugged and the other side (right side) is the fuel pick-up. The fuel pickup has an elbow fitting with a brass tube soldered/brazed to the threaded end that reaches down into the tank almost to the bottom. My car seems to be vented through the filler cap. Is this correct? Jac Myers, do you know for certain? I certainly have had no problems with the fuel being drawn out of the tank so the tank has created a vent somewhere if not through the filler cap.Mike DenmanChassis #4079----- Original Message -----From: dbarton62Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:20 AMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel CellHey gang,
Just got my fuel cell back from getting cleaned and leak checked
.........either side of the filler neck there is a male .125-27 npt
fitting ..........I assume one is for line feed and the other is for
venting........neither of the ports extends deep enough into the tank
to act as a pickup .......is this correct? If so is there that much
suction in the line to pull the fuel through even at low fuel levels.?
Cheers Dave #5577
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2002-05-08 by dbarton62
Hello Mike,Jack and gang,
Thanks for the info........the Webers I am told require high
volume and low pressure fuel supply........to achieve this ,seeing as
the outlets on the tank are so small, could I run both outlets into
a "Y" and then run .375 tubing to the electric pump and on to the
motor.......speaking of which I hope to marry the trans and motor
together this weekend and drop into the frame for the last time.......
pictures to follow.
Cheers Dave #5577
--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jack Myers" <jacob@m...> wrote:
> Hello Mike - Dave- Maniacs
> In the top right of the cell there is a bulk head fitting screwed
1/4" BSP, through this passes a tube 7 3/4" long soldered/brazed to a
1/4"BSP M/M nipple. When this is secured in place the tube is 1/8" -
3/16" from the bottom of the cell. You will note that the back of the
cell has a trough approximately 1"" deep by 2" wide running along the
width of the cell, the dipper goes right down into this ensuring all
the petrol can be picked up, the 1/8" - 3/16" gap allowing for any
sediment to settle. I add that some later cells had a left side pick
up which was soldered into the top of the cell, and the trough
actually came down to a point. To the best of my knowledge all cells /
petrol tanks on GTs vent through the filler cap.
> The two point pick up would suggest an alternative, right / left,
but as the fuel line exits the boot / trunk in the middle back board,
there doesn't appear to be any point, perhaps the manufacturer got
bored and tried a little variety.
> I trust that I have done my duty and that this is of some help.
> Regards to all Maniacs Jac #4057
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Denman
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
>
>
> Hi Dave,
> The fuel tank in my car has the same arrangement as you describe.
One side is plugged and the other side (right side) is the fuel
pick-up. The fuel pickup has an elbow fitting with a brass tube
soldered/brazed to the threaded end that reaches down into the tank
almost to the bottom. My car seems to be vented through the filler
cap. Is this correct? Jac Myers, do you know for certain? I certainly
have had no problems with the fuel being drawn out of the tank so the
tank has created a vent somewhere if not through the filler cap.
> Mike Denman
> Chassis #4079
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dbarton62
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:20 AM
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
>
>
> Hey gang,
> Just got my fuel cell back from getting cleaned and leak
checked
> .........either side of the filler neck there is a male .125-27
npt
> fitting ..........I assume one is for line feed and the other is
for
> venting........neither of the ports extends deep enough into the
tank
> to act as a pickup .......is this correct? If so is there that
much
> suction in the line to pull the fuel through even at low fuel
levels.?
> Cheers Dave #5577
>
>
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Service.2002-05-08 by Mike Denman
----- Original Message -----From: dbarton62Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 1:18 PMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Fuel CellHello Mike,Jack and gang,
Thanks for the info........the Webers I am told require high
volume and low pressure fuel supply........to achieve this ,seeing as
the outlets on the tank are so small, could I run both outlets into
a "Y" and then run .375 tubing to the electric pump and on to the
motor.......speaking of which I hope to marry the trans and motor
together this weekend and drop into the frame for the last time.......
pictures to follow.
; Cheers Dave #5577
--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jack Myers" wrote:
> Hello Mike - Dave- Maniacs
> In the top right of the cell there is a bulk head fitting screwed
1/4" BSP, through this passes a tube 7 3/4" long soldered/brazed to a
1/4"BSP M/M nipple. When this is secured in place the tube is 1/8" -
3/16" from the bottom of the cell. You will note that the back of the
cell has a trough approximately 1"" deep by 2" wide running along the
width of the cell, the dipper goes right down into this ensuring all
the petrol can be picked up, the 1/8" - 3/16" gap allowing for any
sediment to settle. I add that some later cells had a left side pick
up which was soldered into the top of the cell, and the trough
actually came down to a point. To the best of my knowledge all cells /
petrol tanks on GTs vent through the filler cap.
> The two point pick up would suggest an alternative, right / left,
but as the fuel line exits the boot / trunk in the middle back board,
there doesn't appear to be any point, perhaps the manufacturer got
bored and tried a little variety.
> I trust that I have done my duty and that this is of some help.
> Regards to all Maniacs Jac #4057
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Denman
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
>
>
> Hi Dave,
> The fuel tank in my car has the same arrangement as you describe.
One side is plugged and the other side (right side) is the fuel
pick-up. The fuel pickup has an elbow fitting with a brass tube
soldered/brazed to the threaded end that reaches down into the tank
almost to the bottom. My car seems to be vented through the filler
cap. Is this correct? Jac Myers, do you know for certain? I certainly
have had no problems with the fuel being drawn out of the tank so the
tank has created a vent somewhere if not through the filler cap.
> Mike Denman
> Chassis #4079
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dbarton62
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:20 AM
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
>
>
> Hey gang,
> Just got my fuel cell back from getting cleaned and leak
checked
> .........either side of the filler neck there is a male .125-27
npt
> fitting ..........I assume one is for line feed and the other is
for
> venting........neither of the ports extends deep enough into the
tank
> to act as a pickup .......is this correct? If so is there that
much
> suction in the line to pull the fuel through even at low fuel
levels.?
> Cheers Dave #5577
>
>
>
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2002-05-09 by dbarton62
Thanks Mike,
I see what you mean about the possible starvation problem......
it is probably best to use just one port and increase the pipe
diameter...........incidentally I am running 4 dual 38 IDF Webers on
a 3.5 litre Rover with all the goodies also.
Cheers Dave #5577
-- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Mike Denman" <mikedenman@e...> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> I don't remember exactly what engine/carb combination you have but I
have two 45 DCOE Webers feeding a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder Volvo engine
with headers, cam and all the "go fast" stuff. I pull all the gas from
one side (port) and run a low pressure Holley electric pump (blocked
off the mechanical pump) and a pressure regulator with a fuel psi gage
attached. I run the pressure at 3 psi maximum and have never had a
problem. I use 5/16 fuel line everywhere (including the fitting and
the pickup tube on the tank as I recall). Running a "y" configuration
could cause you problems if you are cornering hard around a long curve
with low fuel in that one side could "un-port" allowing the fuel pump
to suck air.
> Mike Denman
> Chassis # 4079
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dbarton62
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 1:18 PM
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Fuel Cell
>
>
> Hello Mike,Jack and gang,
> Thanks for the info........the Webers I am told require high
> volume and low pressure fuel supply........to achieve this ,seeing
as
> the outlets on the tank are so small, could I run both outlets
into
> a "Y" and then run .375 tubing to the electric pump and on to the
> motor.......speaking of which I hope to marry the trans and motor
> together this weekend and drop into the frame for the last
time.......
> pictures to follow.
> Cheers Dave #5577
>
>
>
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jack Myers" <jacob@m...> wrote:
> > Hello Mike - Dave- Maniacs
> > In the top right of the cell there is a bulk head fitting
screwed
> 1/4" BSP, through this passes a tube 7 3/4" long soldered/brazed
to a
> 1/4"BSP M/M nipple. When this is secured in place the tube is
1/8" -
> 3/16" from the bottom of the cell. You will note that the back of
the
> cell has a trough approximately 1"" deep by 2" wide running along
the
> width of the cell, the dipper goes right down into this ensuring
all
> the petrol can be picked up, the 1/8" - 3/16" gap allowing for any
> sediment to settle. I add that some later cells had a left side
pick
> up which was soldered into the top of the cell, and the trough
> actually came down to a point. To the best of my knowledge all
cells /
> petrol tanks on GTs vent through the filler cap.
> > The two point pick up would suggest an alternative, right /
left,
> but as the fuel line exits the boot / trunk in the middle back
board,
> there doesn't appear to be any point, perhaps the manufacturer got
> bored and tried a little variety.
> > I trust that I have done my duty and that this is of some help.
> > Regards to all Maniacs Jac #4057
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Denman
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
> >
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> > The fuel tank in my car has the same arrangement as you
describe.
> One side is plugged and the other side (right side) is the fuel
> pick-up. The fuel pickup has an elbow fitting with a brass tube
> soldered/brazed to the threaded end that reaches down into the
tank
> almost to the bottom. My car seems to be vented through the filler
> cap. Is this correct? Jac Myers, do you know for certain? I
certainly
> have had no problems with the fuel being drawn out of the tank so
the
> tank has created a vent somewhere if not through the filler cap.
> > Mike Denman
> > Chassis #4079
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: dbarton62
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:20 AM
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
> >
> >
> > Hey gang,
> > Just got my fuel cell back from getting cleaned and
leak
> checked
> > .........either side of the filler neck there is a male
.125-27
> npt
> > fitting ..........I assume one is for line feed and the
other is
> for
> > venting........neither of the ports extends deep enough into
the
> tank
> > to act as a pickup .......is this correct? If so is there
that
> much
> > suction in the line to pull the fuel through even at low
fuel
> levels.?
> > Cheers Dave #5577
> >
> >
> >
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Service.2002-05-09 by pauldransfield@iname.com
Hey guys, I'm running triple Solex 45s (essentially Weber 45 DCOEs) on my Volvo 3 litre, also with all the go-fast goodies, with the standard fuel line and mechanical pump. I've never had a problem providing sufficient fuel to the carbs, even at full bore, which I do more than I probably should. But what the hey, a guy's gotta have fun. Regards, Paul Dransfield 3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message-----
From: dbarton62 [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: May 9, 2002 7:38 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Fuel Cell
Thanks Mike,
I see what you mean about the possible starvation problem......
it is probably best to use just one port and increase the pipe
diameter...........incidentally I am running 4 dual 38 IDF Webers on
a 3.5 litre Rover with all the goodies also.
Cheers Dave #5577
-- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Mike Denman" <mikedenman@e...> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> I don't remember exactly what engine/carb combination you have but I
have two 45 DCOE Webers feeding a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder Volvo engine
with headers, cam and all the "go fast" stuff. I pull all the gas from
one side (port) and run a low pressure Holley electric pump (blocked
off the mechanical pump) and a pressure regulator with a fuel psi gage
attached. I run the pressure at 3 psi maximum and have never had a
problem. I use 5/16 fuel line everywhere (including the fitting and
the pickup tube on the tank as I recall). Running a "y" configuration
could cause you problems if you are cornering hard around a long curve
with low fuel in that one side could "un-port" allowing the fuel pump
to suck air.
> Mike Denman
> Chassis # 4079
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dbarton62
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 1:18 PM
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Fuel Cell
>
>
> Hello Mike,Jack and gang,
> Thanks for the info........the Webers I am told require high
> volume and low pressure fuel supply........to achieve this ,seeing
as
> the outlets on the tank are so small, could I run both outlets
into
> a "Y" and then run .375 tubing to the electric pump and on to the
> motor.......speaking of which I hope to marry the trans and motor
> together this weekend and drop into the frame for the last
time.......
> pictures to follow.
> Cheers Dave #5577
>
>
>
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jack Myers" <jacob@m...> wrote:
> > Hello Mike - Dave- Maniacs
> > In the top right of the cell there is a bulk head fitting
screwed
> 1/4" BSP, through this passes a tube 7 3/4" long soldered/brazed
to a
> 1/4"BSP M/M nipple. When this is secured in place the tube is
1/8" -
> 3/16" from the bottom of the cell. You will note that the back of
the
> cell has a trough approximately 1"" deep by 2" wide running along
the
> width of the cell, the dipper goes right down into this ensuring
all
> the petrol can be picked up, the 1/8" - 3/16" gap allowing for any
> sediment to settle. I add that some later cells had a left side
pick
> up which was soldered into the top of the cell, and the trough
> actually came down to a point. To the best of my knowledge all
cells /
> petrol tanks on GTs vent through the filler cap.
> > The two point pick up would suggest an alternative, right /
left,
> but as the fuel line exits the boot / trunk in the middle back
board,
> there doesn't appear to be any point, perhaps the manufacturer got
> bored and tried a little variety.
> > I trust that I have done my duty and that this is of some help.
> > Regards to all Maniacs Jac #4057
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Denman
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
> >
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> > The fuel tank in my car has the same arrangement as you
describe.
> One side is plugged and the other side (right side) is the fuel
> pick-up. The fuel pickup has an elbow fitting with a brass tube
> soldered/brazed to the threaded end that reaches down into the
tank
> almost to the bottom. My car seems to be vented through the filler
> cap. Is this correct? Jac Myers, do you know for certain? I
certainly
> have had no problems with the fuel being drawn out of the tank so
the
> tank has created a vent somewhere if not through the filler cap.
> > Mike Denman
> > Chassis #4079
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: dbarton62
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:20 AM
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Fuel Cell
> >
> >
> > Hey gang,
> > Just got my fuel cell back from getting cleaned and
leak
> checked
> > .........either side of the filler neck there is a male
.125-27
> npt
> > fitting ..........I assume one is for line feed and the
other is
> for
> > venting........neither of the ports extends deep enough into
the
> tank
> > to act as a pickup .......is this correct? If so is there
that
> much
> > suction in the line to pull the fuel through even at low
fuel
> levels.?
> > Cheers Dave #5577
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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