Marcos Maniacs

Hi Maniacs,

Just saw this on Hemmings (www.hmn.com).  Out of my league for sure!  

Don Lattimer
#3M5759 V6

FOR SALE MARCOS: 1970 This car is "THE " premier, MARCOS Mantis, of 
only 32 were ever made. Also the actual 1970 Earl's Court Show-car, 
which won the much coveted IBCAM Award of 1970 (Institute of British 
Carriage and Automobile Manufacturers). Awarded for it's outstanding 
five-dimensional art-form, design and GT-styling. Featured as "the 
star of the show" on the Daily Telegraph stand, for the entire 
duration of the show. (Press releases and photos included). Now fully 
restored, complete with a provenance that is utterly spellbinding. 
This exhilarating dream, comes complete with inspection and vettings 
by David V. Ellison BA (Hons). Including an extensive photographic 
account of its "back-to-new" nuts and bolts restoration; With Road-
Test reports carried out by the Classic & Sports-car Magazine, in 
July 1993. Further, the car has done 200 miles only, since those 
tests, making it one of the most desirable motoring-phenomenon's
in 
the world. Prospective purchasers are therefore, requested to make 
offers to the owner, based on discount norms appropriate to its 
insurance valuation sum. Please visit for more details http://e-
wealth.co.nz/automotive/mantis/ offers over $2.5 millon p Contact: 
justin@... fax + 64 3 455 2073, NA

Interesting price for a Mantis.
I think instead, I would buy a GT40, Lombo Miura and restore my Marcos GT to
as new standards.
David (5006)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Don Lattimer [SMTP:donlattimer@...]
> Sent:	Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:13 PM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[MarcosManiacs] 1970 Mantis for sale  - expensive!
> 
> Hi Maniacs,
> 
> Just saw this on Hemmings (www.hmn.com).  Out of my league for sure!  
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759 V6
> 
> FOR SALE MARCOS: 1970 This car is "THE " premier, MARCOS Mantis, of 
> only 32 were ever made. Also the actual 1970 Earl's Court Show-car, 
> which won the much coveted IBCAM Award of 1970 (Institute of British 
> Carriage and Automobile Manufacturers). Awarded for it's outstanding 
> five-dimensional art-form, design and GT-styling. Featured as "the 
> star of the show" on the Daily Telegraph stand, for the entire 
> duration of the show. (Press releases and photos included). Now fully 
> restored, complete with a provenance that is utterly spellbinding. 
> This exhilarating dream, comes complete with inspection and vettings 
> by David V. Ellison BA (Hons). Including an extensive photographic 
> account of its "back-to-new" nuts and bolts restoration; With Road-
> Test reports carried out by the Classic & Sports-car Magazine, in 
> July 1993. Further, the car has done 200 miles only, since those 
> tests, making it one of the most desirable motoring-phenomenon's
> in 
> the world. Prospective purchasers are therefore, requested to make 
> offers to the owner, based on discount norms appropriate to its 
> insurance valuation sum. Please visit for more details http://e-
> wealth.co.nz/automotive/mantis/ offers over $2.5 millon p Contact: 
> justin@... fax + 64 3 455 2073, NA 
> 
> 
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The Lennon connection seems a bit of a stretch. If he didn't actually own
it, the the value is not there simply because he might have wanted to!
It will be interesting to see the actual selling price given the normal
price that a Mantis will usually fetch.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	David Skora [SMTP:David@...]
> Sent:	Monday, October 08, 2001 11:12 AM
> To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [MarcosManiacs] 1970 Mantis for sale  - expensive!
> 
> Interesting price for a Mantis.
> I think instead, I would buy a GT40, Lombo Miura and restore my Marcos GT
> to
> as new standards.
> David (5006)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Don Lattimer [SMTP:donlattimer@...]
> > Sent:	Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:13 PM
> > To:	MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[MarcosManiacs] 1970 Mantis for sale  - expensive!
> > 
> > Hi Maniacs,
> > 
> > Just saw this on Hemmings (www.hmn.com).  Out of my league for sure!  
> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3M5759 V6
> > 
> > FOR SALE MARCOS: 1970 This car is "THE " premier, MARCOS Mantis, of 
> > only 32 were ever made. Also the actual 1970 Earl's Court Show-car, 
> > which won the much coveted IBCAM Award of 1970 (Institute of British 
> > Carriage and Automobile Manufacturers). Awarded for it's outstanding 
> > five-dimensional art-form, design and GT-styling. Featured as "the 
> > star of the show" on the Daily Telegraph stand, for the entire 
> > duration of the show. (Press releases and photos included). Now fully 
> > restored, complete with a provenance that is utterly spellbinding. 
> > This exhilarating dream, comes complete with inspection and vettings 
> > by David V. Ellison BA (Hons). Including an extensive photographic 
> > account of its "back-to-new" nuts and bolts restoration; With Road-
> > Test reports carried out by the Classic & Sports-car Magazine, in 
> > July 1993. Further, the car has done 200 miles only, since those 
> > tests, making it one of the most desirable motoring-phenomenon's
> > in 
> > the world. Prospective purchasers are therefore, requested to make 
> > offers to the owner, based on discount norms appropriate to its 
> > insurance valuation sum. Please visit for more details http://e-
> > wealth.co.nz/automotive/mantis/ offers over $2.5 millon p Contact: 
> > justin@... fax + 64 3 455 2073, NA 
> > 
> > 
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Interesting history, but I think these people are a little nuts.
There are 1-off race cars out there from some of the most collectible
marques in the world, with documented racing history (not hear say that
someone WANTED to buy the car), that aren't fetching that kind of price.
And. why didn't they show a current picture of the interior? That looks
like a black and white photo from an article or something.
 
 
I'll agree with David on this one.
Much rather have a GT-40, Lambo, or Ferrari and a fully restore my
Marcos!
 
 
Just my 2cents,
Jeff C
 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:      Don Lattimer [SMTP:donlattimer@...]
> > Sent:      Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:13 PM
> > To:      MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:      [MarcosManiacs] 1970 Mantis for sale  - expensive!
> > 
> > Hi Maniacs,
> > 
> > Just saw this on Hemmings (www.hmn.com).  Out of my league for sure!

> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3M5759 V6
> > 
> > FOR SALE MARCOS: 1970 This car is "THE " premier, MARCOS Mantis, of 
> > only 32 were ever made. Also the actual 1970 Earl's Court Show-car, 
> > which won the much coveted IBCAM Award of 1970 (Institute of British

> > Carriage and Automobile Manufacturers). Awarded for it's outstanding

> > five-dimensional art-form, design and GT-styling. Featured as "the 
> > star of the show" on the Daily Telegraph stand, for the entire 
> > duration of the show. (Press releases and photos included). Now
fully 
> > restored, complete with a provenance that is utterly spellbinding. 
> > This exhilarating dream, comes complete with inspection and vettings

> > by David V. Ellison BA (Hons). Including an extensive photographic 
> > account of its "back-to-new" nuts and bolts restoration; With Road-
> > Test reports carried out by the Classic & Sports-car Magazine, in 
> > July 1993. Further, the car has done 200 miles only, since those 
> > tests, making it one of the most desirable motoring-phenomenon's
> > in 
> > the world. Prospective purchasers are therefore, requested to make 
> > offers to the owner, based on discount norms appropriate to its 
> > insurance valuation sum. Please visit for more details http://e-
> > wealth.co.nz/automotive/mantis/ offers over $2.5 millon p Contact: 
> > justin@... fax + 64 3 455 2073, NA 
> > 
> > 
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Hi All,
Can anyone tell me what kind of Windshield Wiper motor (MG, Triumph,
part#???) is used in a Marcos?
Mine doesn't seem to be working, and the switch has power to it as well
as the harness plug, so I suspect it is the motor.
Also, my heater fan switch (the black rocker switch on the dash) is
busted. Can anyone tell me what type (MG, Triumph, part#???) of switch
is used?
 
Thanks,
Jeff

In keeping with the reality of this deal, and the dreamers behind it:

Ron:

I will let you know when I have printed off sufficient $100 bills

It will take a little longer than ususal since you want random serial
numbers :)

this "deal"  brings to mind an old Everly bros song  "Dre-e-e-am, dream,
dream, dream.....




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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ronald McLeod [SMTP:ronald.mcleod@...]
> Sent:	Tuesday, October 09, 2001 11:30 AM
> To:	'MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject:	RE: [MarcosManiacs] 1970 Mantis for sale  - expensive!
> 
> Yow!  2.5 million pounds!  That's nearly $5 million.  In that case, I'm
> making my Mantis available to the first Maniac mad enough to buy it, for
> only $1 million.  And, if you pay cash ($100's, non-consecutive serial
> numbers), I'll deliver it to your door for no extra charge.
>  
> 
> Regards . . . Ron McLeod 
> 1970 Marcos Mantis P8/5858 
>

Jeff,

The dashboard swithes were originally fitted to a Jaguar, I believe, 
(they may have been fitted to other cars as well) and they are almost 
impossible to find new. I tried to get some during a trip to England 
many years ago and found that the reference numbers had been 
superceded a number of times and tracking them down was a time 
consuming task.  I had the most problem with the headlight switch, 
which used to slowly melt inside due to the high current flowing 
through it. I was fortunate enough to locate a new one and solved the 
melting problem by fitting a relay in the curcuit. I haven't had a 
problem since. I digress. 

However, at the annual Ancaster British Car Flea Market and Show in 
April, I have come across good quality second-hand switches for 
around $10-$15. The insides of most of the switches is the same, so a 
switch cover can be replaced by the old cover to reflect its use. If 
you have a problem locating a switch, let me know and I'll see if I 
can get one next April, if not before.

Regards,
Paul Dransfield

<
--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> wrote:
> I'm afraid cleaning will not fix this one.
> When I removed the switch, I found that the back was separated and 
the
> contact inside used to jumper the wires was gone.
> It may be floating around in the dash somewhere, but even so, the 
switch
> will not stay together. I think a new one is definitely in order.
>  
> Jeff
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spalding, Stephen (US - San Francisco)
> [mailto:sspalding@d...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 11:08 AM
> To: 'MarcosManiacs@y...'
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Windshield Wiper motors and heater fan
> switches....
>  
> Jeff
>     I've had switch problems also, but the switches can be taken 
apart
> and cleaned up.  This has always worked for me though the years.  
If you
> do get part numbers let me know.  MOSS Motors, LTD. part number 635-
675
> looks very close!
>     Stephen Spalding
>     #5916t
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 7:51 AM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Windshield Wiper motors and heater fan
> switches....
> Hi All,
> Can anyone tell me what kind of Windshield Wiper motor (MG, Triumph,
> part#???) is used in a Marcos?
> Mine doesn't seem to be working, and the switch has power to it as 
well
> as the harness plug, so I suspect it is the motor.
> Also, my heater fan switch (the black rocker switch on the dash) is
> busted. Can anyone tell me what type (MG, Triumph, part#???) of 
switch
> is used?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>   
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Hi Jeff,
Holden in England has a "ton" of switches for English Cars 
including rocker switches for E Jags, XKJ etc.  that include the wiper 
switch etc. Their catalog of all sorts of neat replacement parts is 
worth having at any rate.  Contact me by email if you want their Web 
site etc.  I could also email you a scanned copy of the switches
Mike Denman
1966 Marcos


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "D. Paul Dransfield" <pauldransfield@i...> 
wrote:
> Jeff,
> 
> The dashboard swithes were originally fitted to a Jaguar, I believe, 
> (they may have been fitted to other cars as well) and they are 
almost 
> impossible to find new. I tried to get some during a trip to England 
> many years ago and found that the reference numbers had been 
> superceded a number of times and tracking them down was a time 
> consuming task.  I had the most problem with the headlight switch, 
> which used to slowly melt inside due to the high current flowing 
> through it. I was fortunate enough to locate a new one and solved 
the 
> melting problem by fitting a relay in the curcuit. I haven't had a 
> problem since. I digress. 
> 
> However, at the annual Ancaster British Car Flea Market and Show in 
> April, I have come across good quality second-hand switches for 
> around $10-$15. The insides of most of the switches is the same, so 
a 
> switch cover can be replaced by the old cover to reflect its use. If 
> you have a problem locating a switch, let me know and I'll see if I 
> can get one next April, if not before.
> 
> Regards,
> Paul Dransfield
> 
> <
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Jeff Caraway" <DovenWolf@c...> wrote:
> > I'm afraid cleaning will not fix this one.
> > When I removed the switch, I found that the back was separated and 
> the
> > contact inside used to jumper the wires was gone.
> > It may be floating around in the dash somewhere, but even so, the 
> switch
> > will not stay together. I think a new one is definitely in order.
> >  
> > Jeff
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Spalding, Stephen (US - San Francisco)
> > [mailto:sspalding@d...] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 11:08 AM
> > To: 'MarcosManiacs@y...'
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Windshield Wiper motors and heater 
fan
> > switches....
> >  
> > Jeff
> >     I've had switch problems also, but the switches can be taken 
> apart
> > and cleaned up.  This has always worked for me though the years.  
> If you
> > do get part numbers let me know.  MOSS Motors, LTD. part number 
635-
> 675
> > looks very close!
> >     Stephen Spalding
> >     #5916t
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 7:51 AM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Windshield Wiper motors and heater fan
> > switches....
> > Hi All,
> > Can anyone tell me what kind of Windshield Wiper motor (MG, 
Triumph,
> > part#???) is used in a Marcos?
> > Mine doesn't seem to be working, and the switch has power to it as 
> well
> > as the harness plug, so I suspect it is the motor.
> > Also, my heater fan switch (the black rocker switch on the dash) 
is
> > busted. Can anyone tell me what type (MG, Triumph, part#???) of 
> switch
> > is used?
> >  
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >   
> > 
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