-----Original Message-----
From: patemery@... [mailto:patemery@...]
Sent: May 7, 2003 1:25 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com; MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!
Paul!
I am the 100th member of this fine group. And I have been waiting for years
to chat with Marcos owners, about wheels, tires, gear ratio, etc.
I have Ted MacGregor's former Marcos 3L Ford V6, serial number 3L5365. It
still has the 13x8 front and 13x10 rear MINILITES. The tires are the same
Pirelli Cinturato CN36 P215R60-13(front) and P235R60-13 (rear). They are
23.15" O.D and 24.10" O.D respectively. I am due for new tires but cannot
find replacement. I am considering to go to P235R50-14 (25.10" O.D)at the
rear. I want to preserve the look of that car and will have to go with
similar looking wheels. I would much prefer to leave it the way it is if I
could find tires. Considering that I rarely use the car, I could probably
make good with racing tires. I am also planning to install different rear
end gear ratio. The existing 3.58 @ 1 is terrible on the expressway. 3.0 @ 1
would be better. I will likely end up replacing the whole unit as there
isn't any choice with this Salisbury unit. I would have better luck with a
Ford 8" unit as equipped with 2.8L V6 Capri or Mustang. I have plenty of
projects but no time. I enjoy
reading your letter and will get back to you with information about the
wheels when I get back home. I live near Montreal, Quebec but work in Saint
John, New-Brunswick. I have my Daimler SP250 here with me so it is not all
that bad without the Marcos. Here are some pictures. Best Regards to all.
Pat> From: pauldransfield@...
> Date: 2003/05/07 Wed AM 10:00:07 EST
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!
>
> Don,
>
> I originally had Avon 175SR13s on my car which have a diameter of 23.94",
> according to the Roger Kraus Racing tire guide. I went to 185/70R13
Michelin
> ZXs when the Avons wore out and have had them on the car for 21 years now.
> Obviously I don't put many miles on my car on a yearly basis. The tires
> perform very well (at least they did), even though they squeal a lot these
> days, and I don't drive in the rain so the hardened rubber hasn't effected
> the handfling.
>
> As Mike Denman noted last year, using old tires isn't the best idea and I
> suspect mine have deteriorated because they won't balance properly any
more.
> A shaking has built up slowly over the years making it less enjoyable to
> drive, so I thought I should do something before I shake the car to
pieces.
> There are two problems with the 185/70R13s from my perspective. They don't
> fill the wheel opening properly and they cause my speedometer to
over-read.
> According to the specs, they should only be 2/10" smaller than the
originals
> but they look much smaller than than that, either in actuallity (though I
> haven't actually measured them) or as an optical illusion.
>
> The 205/60HR14 on paper is slightly smaller than the ZX, so that isn't an
> option. I reckon the larger 215/60HR14 would fill the wheel opening better
> and correct the speedo problem as well, and they're only slightly larger
> than the 195/70HR13 which you use. The 225/55VR14 has the right diameter
but
> it's too wide.
>
> My Cosmic rims are not in very good condition. I've tried to polish them
up
> but they still look battered and dull. I need new rims in any event so I
> might as well have what I want if they're available anywhere at a
reasonable
> price. That's why I was intrigued by your latest email about Pete Paulsen.
> I've sent a note off enquiring about the possibility of accommodating the
4
> x 3 3/4" PCD. At 15", the 205/55VR15 would be just about right and the
> Daytona in chrome wouldn't look bad at all.
>
> As a final note, a Canadian, Ted MacGregor, has a red 3 litre Ford. He
used
> to live locally before he moved out west. I've since heard he moved back
to
> Ottawa but he hasn't surfaced in years. Anyway, his car had very wide, low
> profile tires as I remember and he said they handled very well. I guess
the
> proof is in the pudding as they say.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Lattimer [mailto:donlattimer@...]
> Sent: May 6, 2003 6:59 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Looks to me like 205/60R14 tires come the closest to the original
185/70R13
> circumference, although a liitle more(215/60R14) would improve ground
> clearance a little.
>
> In my opinion, going to 14" isn't worth the price for 1/2" more tread
width.
> I also like the looks of the 15" but you're right, "nothing is easy" or
> inexpensive!
>
> Minilites don't excite me either, especially in the 14" and 15" sizes.
They
> "mini" for a reason. They look great on 13".
>
> The 195/70HR13 tires I have now ride nice (I don't race, yet!), are good
in
> the rain, and fill the wheel well nicely. Guess I'll be satisfied for now
> but I'll keep looking for other options also. The UK guys have a lot of
> suggestions, just a matter of sorting them out. Although I like the looks
> of the 15", I have to keep in mind safety, handling, etc. when changing
> sizes of wheels and tires.
>
> Don
> #3m5759
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pauldransfield@... <mailto:pauldransfield@...>
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!
>
> Thanks for the info Don. I was in contact today with an outfit in the US
> which sells Panasport wheels, which look like minilites. They're a Lotus
> parts supplier with a web site at www.rdent.com <http://www.rdent.com> .
> They sell the 14" wheels with a 3 3/4" PCD for $175 but apparently the hub
> of the 15" wheel will not accommodate the 3 3/4" bolt pattern. I could get
> the alloy hubs for the front and redo the rears at 4 1/4" but I'd then
need
> 5 rims and tires instead of 4. Unfortunately I'm not that keen on the
> minilites and wanted something a little different. I like the look of some
> of the American Racing wheels but they don't appear to have anything for a
3
> 3/4" PCD. Nothing's ever easy, is it, though I now know there's at least
one
> option available.
>
> The bottom line is I really like the look of 15" rims with 205/55VR15
tires
> but 14" rims with 215/60HR14s would be a lot easier to do. What do you
> think?
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Lattimer [mailto:donlattimer@...]
> Sent: May 6, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!
>
>
> www.usacomp.com <http://www.usacomp.com> has "minilites" in just about
any
> size you want.
>
> The Mantulas have the alloy hubs on the front with 4 1/4" PCD to match the
> rear. The pre-1972 cars had the rears redrilled to 3 3/4" PCD to match
the
> front. So the Mantulas have much more choice when it comes to wheels.
>
> I've communicated with Chris in the UK and he currently runs 205/50-R15's
> all around but is going to switch to 195/55R15 in the front and 205/55R15
in
> the rear on his Mantula (with 4 1/4" PCD). He uses 15"x7" wheels with a
> 37mm offset.
>
> The USAComp site is a big help in figuring this out. The "minilites" run
> about $240/wheel.
>
> Don
> #3m5759
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: markwoof92@... <mailto:markwoof92@...>
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!
>
> Paul,
> After squeeling and sliding around the Thunderhill track on my 195/70/13s
> with the nice folks of the Volvo Club of America,I too am motivated to
> upgrade my wheel and tire setup and I did bit of poking around a bit and
was
> told that Panastort rims might be of use to look into ,they are not cheap
> (about $250 each or so) but less costly than a new set of hubs and less
> expencive rims.I was told that they can drill the wheels at the factory to
> fit any bolt pattern.
> Mike Denman hase a set of Panasports(14 inchers) so might want to check
with
> him to get his oppinion.
> A while back Don Lattimer was looking in to this very same subject.
> Don?Any progress?
> Regards,
> Mark Petrinovich
>
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