Dave Bean can supply either the 4 X 3 3/4 or 4
X 4 1/4 or supply the hubs undrilled so you can drill your own. I currently have
a set of the 4 X 4 1/4 on my Marcos and have another set for a Lotus 7 I own.
The hubs are well made, save 3 pounds per wheel in unsprung weight but they are
fairly expensive. The part # for the hubs differ depending on whether you
have small spindles or large spindles but the 4 X 4 1/4 large
spindle part number is 050C 7425. The small spindle part # is 036C
7425. There are other part numbers for other configurations.The person to talk
to at Dave Bean is Tom (although most of the guys
answering questions are pretty good). Tom is the senior guy and is also the
manager so he knows what he is talking about. Tom knows about my Marcos and has
seen it in person. Another employee at Dave Bean actually has a Marcos that has
the 4 cylinder Ford engine.
Mike Denman
Chassis #4079
----- Original Message -----From: Don LattimerSent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:34 PMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!I just heard from a guy who supposedly talked to Dave Bean and the alloy hubs are for the 4x3 3/4" hubs. What's up here Mike? What hubs do you use with your Panasports??;Don#3m5759----- Original Message -----From: pauldransfield@...Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:07 PMSubject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!Hey Mike,I'm not having much luck sourcing 15" wheels with a 3 3/4" bolt circle. The Pete Paulsen wheels aren't available in that size. Maybe I should look at those aluminum hubs you mentioned. Do you have a part number and their cost? The Discount Tire Co. sells a number of 15" wheels which accommodate a 4 1/4" PCD for a reasonable price.Regards,Paul-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Denman [mailto:mikedenman@...]
Sent: May 6, 2003 9:55 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!Hi group,Actually, I have 13 inch Panasport wheels, 7 inches wide (as I recall... I can check if someone really needs to know) with 4 1/4 backspacing. 4 1/4 back spacing is the maximum that will clear everything with 13 inch wheels.The first thing that will hit ( with 13 inch wheels) is the upper "A" arm on the front suspension. If I were to order the same wheels again I think I would go with a 4 inch back spacing to give a little more clearance. Panasport can do any 4 bolt wheel pattern from what I understand. 14 inch wheels weigh more and give you more unsprung weight which is a bad thing. My conversion from wire wheels to Panasports resulted in a savings of almost 60 pounds which made a huge difference in the handling. It also has a pretty big effect on the power to weight ratio since the car only weighs 1780 pounds. The 3 3/4 bolt pattern is correct for the Triumph hubs and the Cortina Rear end was stock at 4 1/4 inches. The Marcos factory would re-drill the Cortina rear axles to the 3 3/4 inch pattern. Unfortunately, the 3 3/4 inch pattern with Triumph studs is not the strongest assembly around. One way around this problem is to fit aluminum hubs in the front drilled to the 4 1/4 pattern and use the stock 4 1/4 Cortina rear axles. The aluminum hubs are expensive but available from Dave Bean Engineering in California. The aluminum hubs are also quite a bit lighter saving almost 3 lbs per front wheel (which is a good thing). I ended up with Toyo RA-1 DOT legal race tires on the recommendation from Roger Krause who sells Vintage race tires as well as modern race tires. I had originally set out to buy Hoosiers which are basically a DOT legal race slick figuring that I didn't ever drive in the rain so they shouldn't be a problem. So far I have had two track days in the rain and got caught on two long trips in the rain. The Toyo tires aren't great in the rain (as I found out at Thunderhill last weekend) but at least they aren't dangerous. In the dry they are great. They have a wear index of 40. (Pure race tires have an wear index of basically 0. My Yokohama AVS "performance tires" had a wear index of 160. So the lower the wear index the better the tire will grip... but the lower the wear index the quicker the tires will wear out.) However, tires get hard as they get old so wearing out the tires is not all bad. When I took the Yokohama AVS off the car they looked like new even though they were 3 years old (not a good thing). Because the Marcos is so light even the Toyo tires will probably last me a couple of years.Mike DenmanChassis #4079----- Original Message -----From: markwoof92@...Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:32 PMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 100 Members !!Paul,
After squeeling and sliding around the Thunderhill track on my 195/70/13s with the nice folks of the Volvo Club of America,I too am motivated to upgrade my wheel and tire setup and I did bit of poking around a bit and was told that Panastort rims might be of use to look into ,they are not cheap (about $250 each or so) but less costly than a new set of hubs and less expencive rims.I was told that they can drill the wheels at the factory to fit any bolt pattern.
Mike Denman hase a set of Panasports(14 inchers) so might want to check with him to get his oppinion.
A while back Don Lattimer was looking in to this very same subject.
Don?Any progress?
Regards,
Mark Petrinovich
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