Marcos Maniacs

I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the one 
that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost impossible 
to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).

The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches have 
to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the rubber 
is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to the 
curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just take 
your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.

Don Lattimer
#3m5759

Good tip Don
    Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
   Cheers Dave #5577  








--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
<donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the one 
> that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost impossible 
> to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
> 
> The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
have 
> to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
rubber 

> is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to the 
> curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just take 
> your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759

Hi Don
  That is a long story so I will give the abbreviated version.......
the casting #'s on the block and heads are nowhere to be found in any 
Rover records.........the block is definitely a Rover casting 
as"ROVER"  is cast into the face of the block under the timing 
cover.......so............I can only assume that it is a 
preproduction block and heads that was scooped up by Marcos......
the trans is a 4spd....I am told that it is a heavy duty unit that 
was commonly used for use in things like Italian police cars etc.
  The displacement is 3.5 litre (.060 oversize)........the 
carburetion is 4 dual IDF Webers with 40MM chokes......the engine as 
far as I can gather from the info I have researched came from the 
factory in this car......although the build sheet says that it was a 
V4........the previous owner was a collector of out of the ordinary 
cars (Fiat Abarth twin cams etc)....so although I have yet to confirm 
that it was a factory V8 install ,there are lots of clues leading to 
that assumption........Marcos will not tell me!
  Fitting the V8 is not too difficult but you do need to cut the foot 
boxes.........I'm sure you have seen the pics but if you have'nt look 
in "V8 Marcos" file 
 







--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
<donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> What year is your Rover engine?  Size? Where did you get it?  
Injection/carburetion, etc.??  Gearbox?
> 
> Just preparing for some time in the future.  My Essex V6 is of the 
older style and parts are hard to come by.  Hopefully it will last a 
while, but putting on 10k + miles/year is inviting a rebuild or a new 
engine some day.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Dave Barton 
>   To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 3:20 PM
>   Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> 
> 
>     
> 
> 
>   Good tip Don
>       Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
>   tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
>   have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
>   daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
>      Cheers Dave #5577  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
>   <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
>   > I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the 
one 
>   > that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost 
impossible 
>   > to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
>   > 
>   > The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
>   have 
>   > to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
>   rubber 
>   > is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to 
the 
>   > curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just 
take 
>   > your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
>   > 
>   > Don Lattimer
>   > #3m5759
> 
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Hi Dave,

You mentioned that you were going to the Ancaster British car show, which is
this Sunday, and I thought I'd let you know that I'll be there from around
9:30am to 11-ish. It's Easter Sunday and my wife's family always make a big
thing about getting together so I gotta be there too. Hope to see you on
Sunday.

Regards,

Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: April 14, 2003 6:21 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal


  


Good tip Don
    Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
   Cheers Dave #5577  








--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
<donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the one 
> that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost impossible 
> to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
> 
> The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
have 
> to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
rubber 
> is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to the 
> curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just take 
> your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759



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Regards . . . Ron McLeod
1970 Marcos Mantis P8/5858

-----Original Message-----

Hi Paul
  Will you have the Marcos there?.......there are going to be a few 
TVR's also........I will try and get there before 11
        Cheers Dave #5577


--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> You mentioned that you were going to the Ancaster British car show, 
which is
> this Sunday, and I thought I'd let you know that I'll be there from 
around
> 9:30am to 11-ish. It's Easter Sunday and my wife's family always 
make a big
> thing about getting together so I gotta be there too. Hope to see 
you on
> Sunday.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> Sent: April 14, 2003 6:21 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Good tip Don
>     Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
> tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
> have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
> daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
>    Cheers Dave #5577  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
> <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the one 
> > that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost 
impossible 
> > to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
> > 
> > The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
> have 
> > to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
> rubber 
> > is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to the 
> > curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just 
take 
> > your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3m5759
> 
> 
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Ron
 You are tempting fate with that one
     Dave





--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, ronald.mcleod@a... wrote:
> Paul . . .
>  
> I just got the Mantis out of winter storage this afternoon.  It 
fired up and
> ran beautifully!  I guess it's the 80 degree weather we're having 
today.
>  
> I'll look for you at Ancaster on Sunday.  That is, provided that 
the snow
> predicted for the next day or so is gone before then!
>  
> 
> Regards . . . Ron McLeod 
> 1970 Marcos Mantis P8/5858 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldransfield@i... [mailto:pauldransfield@i...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:57 AM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> 
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> You mentioned that you were going to the Ancaster British car show, 
which is
> this Sunday, and I thought I'd let you know that I'll be there from 
around
> 9:30am to 11-ish. It's Easter Sunday and my wife's family always 
make a big
> thing about getting together so I gotta be there too. Hope to see 
you on
> Sunday.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> Sent: April 14, 2003 6:21 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Good tip Don
>     Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
> tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
> have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
> daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
>    Cheers Dave #5577  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
> <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the one 
> > that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost 
impossible 
> > to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
> > 
> > The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
> have 
> > to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
> rubber 
> > is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to the 
> > curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just 
take 
> > your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3m5759
> 
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Hi Dave,

Yes, I'll have the Marcos at the show. I rebuilt my triple carbs over the
winter and got everything back together last weekend after waiting weeks for
the snow to melt around my way. I don't really understand why but there is a
very noticeable improvement in performance. The service kits mainly
consisted of gaskets and needle valves, but the car definitely has a lot
more oomph. I'm really looking forward to the outing.

You probably saw Ron McLeod's note, so look out for a light blue Mantis and
a Porsche tangerine coupe. See you on Sunday.

Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: April 15, 2003 5:43 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal


Hi Paul
  Will you have the Marcos there?.......there are going to be a few 
TVR's also........I will try and get there before 11
        Cheers Dave #5577


--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> You mentioned that you were going to the Ancaster British car show, 
which is
> this Sunday, and I thought I'd let you know that I'll be there from 
around
> 9:30am to 11-ish. It's Easter Sunday and my wife's family always 
make a big
> thing about getting together so I gotta be there too. Hope to see 
you on
> Sunday.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> Sent: April 14, 2003 6:21 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Good tip Don
>     Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
> tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
> have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
> daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
>    Cheers Dave #5577  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
> <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the one 
> > that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost 
impossible 
> > to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
> > 
> > The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
> have 
> > to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
> rubber 
> > is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to the 
> > curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just 
take 
> > your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3m5759
> 
> 
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Hi Paul
 I thought Ron was joking about the weather but it doesn't look good 
right now..........how do you find the Webers for tuning, I just put 
triples on my TVR ,I haven't road tested yet but expect to have to 
fiddle with it a bit
    Cheers Dave






--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Yes, I'll have the Marcos at the show. I rebuilt my triple carbs 
over the
> winter and got everything back together last weekend after waiting 
weeks for
> the snow to melt around my way. I don't really understand why but 
there is a
> very noticeable improvement in performance. The service kits mainly
> consisted of gaskets and needle valves, but the car definitely has 
a lot
> more oomph. I'm really looking forward to the outing.
> 
> You probably saw Ron McLeod's note, so look out for a light blue 
Mantis and
> a Porsche tangerine coupe. See you on Sunday.
> 
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> Sent: April 15, 2003 5:43 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> 
> 
> Hi Paul
>   Will you have the Marcos there?.......there are going to be a few 
> TVR's also........I will try and get there before 11
>         Cheers Dave #5577
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > You mentioned that you were going to the Ancaster British car 
show, 
> which is
> > this Sunday, and I thought I'd let you know that I'll be there 
from 
> around
> > 9:30am to 11-ish. It's Easter Sunday and my wife's family always 
> make a big
> > thing about getting together so I gotta be there too. Hope to see 
> you on
> > Sunday.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> > Sent: April 14, 2003 6:21 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Good tip Don
> >     Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
> > tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
> > have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
> > daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
> >    Cheers Dave #5577  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
> > <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > > I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the 
one 
> > > that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost 
> impossible 
> > > to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
> > > 
> > > The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
> > have 
> > > to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
> > rubber 
> > > is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to 
the 
> > > curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just 
> take 
> > > your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
> > > 
> > > Don Lattimer
> > > #3m5759
> > 
> > 
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Regards . . . Ron McLeod

Hi Dave,

The forecast for the weekend has temperatures in the high 50s so I wouldn't
worry.

My carbs are Solex 45s, which are similar to Webers. I'm not sure if your
question on tuning refers to jetting or balancing. However, I had extensive
correspondence back in the early 80s with Andre (don't immediately recall
his last name) in Sweden who had done A LOT of tuning on his 3 litre Volvo,
to the extent of boring it out and changing the crankshaft profile,
resulting in 3.6 litres. He also used Solex carbs so he sent me a number of
recommendations for the jets and choke tubes for them. When I checked, my
carbs conformed to one of his recommendations, which was fortunate because
Solex parts are very hard to come by. It would appear that the rebuild kits
are only available through a few places in England. I've been told that
Weber jets would fit in a pinch, but it hasn't been necessary to check that
out.

Balancing them is a bit tricky, but it helps to have an airflow meter which
I use to equalize the three carbs. I then use a colourtune kit to balance
the mixture at each choke. That part is a bit tricky because if I follow the
colourtuune instructions exactly, the mixture ends up being too rich. I
found that out when I  took a run up the highway following a tuning session
and then pulled a plug to see the result. I believe  the colour of the plug
is a truer indicator so I leaned out the mixture until the plug colour was
correct. I need to repeat the exercise now I've rebuilt the carbs because
the idling speed went up quite a bit. That might be because the middle carb
had screw plugs missing from both choke tubes. The holes were underneath
between the choke tube and the butterfly, and I haven't a clue how long the
plugs were missing. Fortunately I'd kept an old set of idle screws I'd
replaced 15 years ago which had the same thread size. I just shortened them
and they fit perfectly.

I hope that helps answer your question. If you need more details, I'll be
happy to oblige on Sunday. I guess you'll be driving a TVR. See you then.

Regards,
        Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: April 16, 2003 6:27 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal



Hi Paul
 I thought Ron was joking about the weather but it doesn't look good 
right now..........how do you find the Webers for tuning, I just put 
triples on my TVR ,I haven't road tested yet but expect to have to 
fiddle with it a bit
    Cheers Dave






--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Yes, I'll have the Marcos at the show. I rebuilt my triple carbs 
over the
> winter and got everything back together last weekend after waiting 
weeks for
> the snow to melt around my way. I don't really understand why but 
there is a
> very noticeable improvement in performance. The service kits mainly
> consisted of gaskets and needle valves, but the car definitely has 
a lot
> more oomph. I'm really looking forward to the outing.
> 
> You probably saw Ron McLeod's note, so look out for a light blue 
Mantis and
> a Porsche tangerine coupe. See you on Sunday.
> 
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> Sent: April 15, 2003 5:43 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> 
> 
> Hi Paul
>   Will you have the Marcos there?.......there are going to be a few 
> TVR's also........I will try and get there before 11
>         Cheers Dave #5577
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > You mentioned that you were going to the Ancaster British car 
show, 
> which is
> > this Sunday, and I thought I'd let you know that I'll be there 
from 
> around
> > 9:30am to 11-ish. It's Easter Sunday and my wife's family always 
> make a big
> > thing about getting together so I gotta be there too. Hope to see 
> you on
> > Sunday.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Paul Dransfield
> > 3 litre Volvo
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> > Sent: April 14, 2003 6:21 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Door waist seal
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Good tip Don
> >     Just got the shell back from the upholsterer......will be 
> > tackling the reassembly in the next few weeks........by the way I 
> > have finally figured out my digital camera or at least my 12 year 
> > daughter did , so I will post some decent pics soon.
> >    Cheers Dave #5577  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" 
> > <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > > I finally tackled the door window seal replacement.  It's the 
one 
> > > that is on the outside of the door glass that is almost 
> impossible 
> > > to change without 3 hands(or one arm that's REAL long).
> > > 
> > > The seal that fit is from the Triumph Spitfire.  About 4 inches 
> > have 
> > > to be removed from each end and then the metal strip that the 
> > rubber 
> > > is bonded to has to be slit so that the seal will conform to 
the 
> > > curve of the frame.  Not too bad looking after install.  Just 
> take 
> > > your time and keep testing the fit as you trim it.
> > > 
> > > Don Lattimer
> > > #3m5759
> > 
> > 
> > 
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