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Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-13 by mycroft2152

Richard Heiliger has posted on the Inkjet_PCB_Construction YAHOO group
a simple conversion of the EPSON R280 inkjet printer for straight
through printing on pcbs.

The EPSON R200 series will print on CDs and has a built in mechanism
to raise the printhead which makes it very easy to do.

What is more significant is that he uses the EPSON with regular ink to
make pcbs by "Toner Dustng".

Toner dusting is simply using the wet inkjet ink as a temporary
adhesive for toner powder. Prep the pcb as you normally would for
toner transfer - scrub and rinse in solvent. While the ink is still
wet pour on some toner, let dry, then blow off the excess toner, fuse
on a hotplate and process normally.

It does work very well!. Very simple. Use the premium CD print
settings to automatically raise the head and add extra ink.

I ran some successful trials on an unmodified EPSON R220, using 0.040"
pcb stock and fitting a piece within the CD tray.

I was able to fit a free EAGLE sized pcb (3" x4") in the tray with a
little dremel work to square off the circle.

My own variation on the process was to try electrostatic paint powder
(availible at SEARS for about $6) instead of toner for a heavier and
colored coating. The idea is a possible printable solder mask.

Myc

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-13 by Lez

2008/10/13 mycroft2152 <mycroft2152y@...>:
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> Richard Heiliger has posted on the Inkjet_PCB_Construction YAHOO group
> a simple conversion of the EPSON R280 inkjet printer for straight
> through printing on pcbs.


Think i mentioned using (in here) the cd tray about 2 years ago when
the resist ink thread started....

nice to see it catching on.

Anyhow, would it work the other way, dusting the pcb before printing,
then lightly blowing it off etc

Wonder if toner can be mixed into the ink..............

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-13 by Myc Holmes

Len,
It is a pretty simple process as is.

The main problem is that working with toner powder can make quite a mess.
Have you ever refilled a toner cartridge? I would hate to think of trying to
put a loose toner coated pcb through the printer.

Mixing the toner with the ink creats the old problem of clogging the
printhead.

Myc

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On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Lez <lez.briddon@...> wrote:

> 2008/10/13 mycroft2152 <mycroft2152y@...<mycroft2152y%40gmail.com>
> >:
> > Richard Heiliger has posted on the Inkjet_PCB_Construction YAHOO group
> > a simple conversion of the EPSON R280 inkjet printer for straight
> > through printing on pcbs.
>
> Think i mentioned using (in here) the cd tray about 2 years ago when
> the resist ink thread started....
>
> nice to see it catching on.
>
> Anyhow, would it work the other way, dusting the pcb before printing,
> then lightly blowing it off etc
>
> Wonder if toner can be mixed into the ink..............
>
>


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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-13 by Herbert E. Plett

question:
isn't the ink pretty dry when you finish printing?
how does the toner hold to this dry (not cured) ink?



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--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@...> wrote:
> It is a pretty simple process as is.
>
> The main problem is that working with toner powder can make
> quite a mess.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by Myc Holmes

Herbert,
On a non absorbent surface, like a CD or pcb, the ink is still wet. Epson
even has a caution statement about letting the ink dry for a few hours.

The toner sticks well enough after drying that using a 30 psi air hose
(measured by Richard) only blows off the loose toner. I use a Dust Off
canned air spray..

Myc




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On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Herbert E. Plett <cachureos@...>wrote:

> question:
> isn't the ink pretty dry when you finish printing?
> how does the toner hold to this dry (not cured) ink?
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@...<mycroft2152y%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > It is a pretty simple process as is.
> >
> > The main problem is that working with toner powder can make
> > quite a mess.
>
>
>


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Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by dandumit

I like this improvement to process.
Personally I have modified an epson D68 to print on pcb and I have
made some tests. Unfortunately I have never baked the ink correctly.
More than that , using this trick , it can be used cheap dye ink too.

Could you please explain more about solder mask ? Do you plan to use
electrostatic paint as solder mask ?
Regards,
Daniel

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by Myc Holmes

Dan,
I knew from Voltan's work that he was able to print a solder mask. (I was
never able to correctly cure the ink) and decided to try the Toner Dusting
process instead.

I was looking at replacing the black toner with other fusible fine powder,
hopefully a white or yellow one, to use as component legends. I had seen
some electrostatic painting on a TV show and thought it might work, though
most of the time the metal items were baked at a very high temp. I did a
search and found that the ES paint was also used on MDF, so a lower temp
fuse was possible. There are a few different types of ES powder.

I found some ES powder paint at SEARS for only $6 and am trying it. I am
told it also is available at some auto parts stores. The SEARS version has
slightly larger particle sizes.

I've just started playing with it. It seems to give a very thick coating.
Try to avoid the gold fleck version, The goldish particles are very small
and are hard to remove.

Toner dusting is a very simple process and easy to try. Like toner
transfer you have to fine tune it to your set up.

Myc




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On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:15 AM, dandumit <dandumit@...> wrote:

> I like this improvement to process.
> Personally I have modified an epson D68 to print on pcb and I have
> made some tests. Unfortunately I have never baked the ink correctly.
> More than that , using this trick , it can be used cheap dye ink too.
>
> Could you please explain more about solder mask ? Do you plan to use
> electrostatic paint as solder mask ?
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
>
>


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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by Herbert E. Plett

wow, worth a try...
may be even possible with anything not Epson, and any cheapo toner might do!


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--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@...> wrote:

> On a non absorbent surface, like a CD or pcb, the ink is
> still wet. Epson
> even has a caution statement about letting the ink dry for
> a few hours.
>
> The toner sticks well enough after drying that using a 30
> psi air hose
> (measured by Richard) only blows off the loose toner. I use
> a Dust Off
> canned air spray..

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by Myc Holmes

Herbert,
I would think that any inkjet printer could be made work. Woody has posted
on the Inkjet pcb construction group about hishis success using a Lexmark.

The EPSON was used because that is what both Richard and and I had on hand.

There is one benefit for the EPSON in that being a CD printer the head is
designed to be raised to clear the CD. IT is called the APG
(automatic platten gap).That means there is less hacking and cutting of
metal to get the clearance.

Even though small thin pcbs can be made in the CD tray, it is best to mod
the printer for straight though printing on larger 1/16" think pcbs..

Myc


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On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Herbert E. Plett <cachureos@...>wrote:

> wow, worth a try...
> may be even possible with anything not Epson, and any cheapo toner might
> do!
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@...<mycroft2152y%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > On a non absorbent surface, like a CD or pcb, the ink is
> > still wet. Epson
> > even has a caution statement about letting the ink dry for
> > a few hours.
> >
> > The toner sticks well enough after drying that using a 30
> > psi air hose
> > (measured by Richard) only blows off the loose toner. I use
> > a Dust Off
> > canned air spray..
>
>
>


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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by Volkan Sahin

Hi Myc,
Last weekend, I tried toner dusting but what I've achived is 7/7 (width/trace). What is your test results? Do you have some pictures to share?
Cheers,
Volkan

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--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@...> wrote:
From: Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@...>
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 10:23 AM











Herbert,

I would think that any inkjet printer could be made work. Woody has posted

on the Inkjet pcb construction group about hishis success using a Lexmark.



The EPSON was used because that is what both Richard and and I had on hand.



There is one benefit for the EPSON in that being a CD printer the head is

designed to be raised to clear the CD. IT is called the APG

(automatic platten gap).That means there is less hacking and cutting of

metal to get the clearance.



Even though small thin pcbs can be made in the CD tray, it is best to mod

the printer for straight though printing on larger 1/16" think pcbs..



Myc



On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Herbert E. Plett <cachureos@yahoo. com>wrote:



> wow, worth a try...

> may be even possible with anything not Epson, and any cheapo toner might

> do!

>

>

> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@ gmail.com<mycroft2152y% 40gmail.com> >

> wrote:

>

> > On a non absorbent surface, like a CD or pcb, the ink is

> > still wet. Epson

> > even has a caution statement about letting the ink dry for

> > a few hours.

> >

> > The toner sticks well enough after drying that using a 30

> > psi air hose

> > (measured by Richard) only blows off the loose toner. I use

> > a Dust Off

> > canned air spray..

>

>

>



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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by Myc Holmes

Hi Volkan,
Great!

I haven"t tried any fine traces yet,as most of my pcbs are pretty simple
with wide tracks. I was just looking for an easy method to make them.

I hope others will push the limit .and fine tune the method.

It was your success with printing pcbs with an inkjet that deserves the
credit for this.

Myc

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On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Volkan Sahin <v_sahin@...> wrote:

> Hi Myc,
> Last weekend, I tried toner dusting but what I've achived is 7/7
> (width/trace). What is your test results? Do you have some pictures to
> share?
> Cheers,
> Volkan
>
> --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@...<mycroft2152y%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> From: Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@... <mycroft2152y%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Dusting pcb process
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 10:23 AM
>
>
> Herbert,
>
> I would think that any inkjet printer could be made work. Woody has posted
>
> on the Inkjet pcb construction group about hishis success using a Lexmark.
>
> The EPSON was used because that is what both Richard and and I had on hand.
>
> There is one benefit for the EPSON in that being a CD printer the head is
>
> designed to be raised to clear the CD. IT is called the APG
>
> (automatic platten gap).That means there is less hacking and cutting of
>
> metal to get the clearance.
>
> Even though small thin pcbs can be made in the CD tray, it is best to mod
>
> the printer for straight though printing on larger 1/16" think pcbs..
>
> Myc
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Herbert E. Plett <cachureos@...>wrote:
>
> > wow, worth a try...
>
> > may be even possible with anything not Epson, and any cheapo toner might
>
> > do!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Myc Holmes <mycroft2152y@ gmail.com<mycroft2152y%
> 40gmail.com> >
>
> > wrote:
>
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> > > On a non absorbent surface, like a CD or pcb, the ink is
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> > > still wet. Epson
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> > > even has a caution statement about letting the ink dry for
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> > > a few hours.
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> > > The toner sticks well enough after drying that using a 30
>
> > > psi air hose
>
> > > (measured by Richard) only blows off the loose toner. I use
>
> > > a Dust Off
>
> > > canned air spray..
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> >
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> >
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Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-14 by warrenbrayshaw

I've tried laying down the ink with a canon i560 onto plastic sheets
to evaluate the extent of the wetness of the ink after the print and
found that that is not an issue. There is plenty of time available to
apply the toner.

I found that the exit feed rolls could compromise the wet ink image
and so think that a modification to the printer is needed to prevent
any part of the feed mechanism touching the wet ink.

I needed something to clean the hi gloss plastic sheets before
printing otherwise the ink would puddle. I found a citrus based
cleaner did a fine job and is worth trying on copper.

Warren

Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-15 by Marko Pavlin

Hi!

Here is one of my stupid idea. Has anyone tried to combine both methods,
toner dust and toner transfer? I think the appropriate paper should be
used to keep ink wet and withstand toner baking (if neccessary). This
would avoid the modification of the printer. At the same time it would
provide quality and thick coating of toner.

M.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-15 by Myc Holmes

Marko,
That's easy enough to try!

You will need a paper that does not absorb the ink, perhaps an overhead
transparency.

Also slightly rough up the surface to prevent "beading" of the ink.I use a
#m pad on my pcbs fiorst, but one person wipes onand dries a thin film of
saop solution.

Myc



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On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Marko Pavlin <mp@...> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Here is one of my stupid idea. Has anyone tried to combine both methods,
> toner dust and toner transfer? I think the appropriate paper should be
> used to keep ink wet and withstand toner baking (if neccessary). This
> would avoid the modification of the printer. At the same time it would
> provide quality and thick coating of toner.
>
> M.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-15 by Herbert E. Plett

why do you think this (complex) procedure might be better or more accurate than direct laser printing?



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--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Marko Pavlin <mp@...> wrote:
> Here is one of my stupid idea. Has anyone tried to combine
> both methods,
> toner dust and toner transfer? I think the appropriate
> paper should be
> used to keep ink wet and withstand toner baking (if
> neccessary). This
> would avoid the modification of the printer. At the same
> time it would
> provide quality and thick coating of toner.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-16 by Stefan Trethan

As far as i know nobody has shown repeatable or reliable direct laser
printing.
That alone would make it better in my eyes.

ST

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On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Herbert E. Plett <cachureos@...>wrote:

> why do you think this (complex) procedure might be better or more accurate
> than direct laser printing?
>
>


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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-30 by Tony Smith

> I knew from Voltan's work that he was able to print a solder mask. (I was
> never able to correctly cure the ink) and decided to try the Toner Dusting
> process instead.
>
> I was looking at replacing the black toner with other fusible fine powder,
> hopefully a white or yellow one, to use as component legends. I had seen
> some electrostatic painting on a TV show and thought it might work, though
> most of the time the metal items were baked at a very high temp. I did a
> search and found that the ES paint was also used on MDF, so a lower temp
> fuse was possible. There are a few different types of ES powder.
>
> I found some ES powder paint at SEARS for only $6 and am trying it. I am
> told it also is available at some auto parts stores. The SEARS version has
> slightly larger particle sizes.
>
> I've just started playing with it. It seems to give a very thick coating.
> Try to avoid the gold fleck version, The goldish particles are very small
> and are hard to remove.
>
> Toner dusting is a very simple process and easy to try. Like toner
> transfer you have to fine tune it to your set up.
>
> Myc


You're describing powder coating, searching for that will turn up more
stuff. As you say, it's not that hard.

Plenty of powder on eBay, in any colour you want, typically under $10 per
pound, and a pound goes a long way.

The standard way to apply is blow the powder past high voltage (say
15-100kV), this applies a charge to the powder which causes it to stick to
the metal. To do wood such as MDF it needs to be coated with something to
make it conductive first. You may have trouble finding that and the low
temperature cure powder.

The other way is to heat the part up (~150C / 300F) and either dip it in the
powder or sprinkle the powder onto it. Either way the powder will melt and
stick to it. I'm not sure if it'll stick to the PCB material (copper traces
are ok), someone will need to try it. With a mask you could do it cold, put
the mask over the PCB, sprinkle the powder, then put it (very carefully!)
into an oven to cure.

Powders are typically cured at 200C (~400F) for about 10 minutes, although
you can trade temp for time, eg 350F for 15 minutes etc. The oven can just
be one of those little toaster ovens. This is to cure it properly, it'll
still stick if not properly cured, it just won't be as resistant to chipping
etc.

It also needs to be absolutely clean otherwise the powder may not stick. In
this case it's not a huge drama, and the normal PCB cleaning procedures
(wipe with acetone, rinse with distilled water etc) are ok.

Powder coating is good fun, it beats painting hands down.

Tony

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-10-30 by Myc Holmes

Tony,
Good link to the eBay sources of ES paint powder. A pound of paint will do
acres of pcbs :)

That is the standard process for ES painting. In this case we are "cheating"
a bit by using the wet inkjet ink as a temporary adhesive.

Overall, it works very well. I found it a lot easier than regular toner
transfer. No fighting with multiple runs through a laminator and removing
the paper afterward..

Myc

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On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Tony Smith <ajsmith@...> wrote:

> > I knew from Voltan's work that he was able to print a solder mask. (I
> was
> > never able to correctly cure the ink) and decided to try the Toner
> Dusting
> > process instead.
> >
> > I was looking at replacing the black toner with other fusible fine
> powder,
> > hopefully a white or yellow one, to use as component legends. I had seen
> > some electrostatic painting on a TV show and thought it might work,
> though
> > most of the time the metal items were baked at a very high temp. I did a
> > search and found that the ES paint was also used on MDF, so a lower temp
> > fuse was possible. There are a few different types of ES powder.
> >
> > I found some ES powder paint at SEARS for only $6 and am trying it. I am
> > told it also is available at some auto parts stores. The SEARS version
> has
> > slightly larger particle sizes.
> >
> > I've just started playing with it. It seems to give a very thick coating.
> > Try to avoid the gold fleck version, The goldish particles are very small
> > and are hard to remove.
> >
> > Toner dusting is a very simple process and easy to try. Like toner
> > transfer you have to fine tune it to your set up.
> >
> > Myc
>
> You're describing powder coating, searching for that will turn up more
> stuff. As you say, it's not that hard.
>
> Plenty of powder on eBay, in any colour you want, typically under $10 per
> pound, and a pound goes a long way.
>
> The standard way to apply is blow the powder past high voltage (say
> 15-100kV), this applies a charge to the powder which causes it to stick to
> the metal. To do wood such as MDF it needs to be coated with something to
> make it conductive first. You may have trouble finding that and the low
> temperature cure powder.
>
> The other way is to heat the part up (~150C / 300F) and either dip it in
> the
> powder or sprinkle the powder onto it. Either way the powder will melt and
> stick to it. I'm not sure if it'll stick to the PCB material (copper traces
> are ok), someone will need to try it. With a mask you could do it cold, put
> the mask over the PCB, sprinkle the powder, then put it (very carefully!)
> into an oven to cure.
>
> Powders are typically cured at 200C (~400F) for about 10 minutes, although
> you can trade temp for time, eg 350F for 15 minutes etc. The oven can just
> be one of those little toaster ovens. This is to cure it properly, it'll
> still stick if not properly cured, it just won't be as resistant to
> chipping
> etc.
>
> It also needs to be absolutely clean otherwise the powder may not stick. In
> this case it's not a huge drama, and the normal PCB cleaning procedures
> (wipe with acetone, rinse with distilled water etc) are ok.
>
> Powder coating is good fun, it beats painting hands down.
>
> Tony
>
>
>


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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Dusting pcb process

2008-11-01 by Tony Smith

Yeah, powder is as cheap as anything, you don't even bother working out the
coat of what you used (unless it's the 'glow in dark' $$$ stuff. Clear is
the cheapest. The differences in composition is mainly related to UV
stability (colour fading), which isn't an issue here.

The furniture industry (think offices) is shifting from laminates to powder
coated MDF. The idea is that MDF can be milled to any shape possible, and
then powder coated, giving a result equal to laminates. With laminates,
you're somewhat limited in shapes. Eg, the edge on your desk is square, not
rounded, and you can't put laminate on a rounded edge like that. Drilled
holes would be coated, not bare wood (well MDF) as is now. Like laminates,
powder coat can have textures. No wood grain though! Expect to see some
interesting stuff in a few years (but boring colours - but hey, it's an
office) as production ramps up.

I was ordering some high-temp tape (Kapton, used in marking for powder coat,
see <
http://stores.ebay.com.au/High-Temp-Tape-store_powder-coating-tapes_W0QQfsub
Z19781913> or
<http://stores.ebay.com.au/High-Temp-Tape-store_high-temp-Polyimide-tapes-KP
T_W0QQfsubZ19781912>) when I had a flash back to the 'good old days' with
photo-resists, mark the tracks with tape, spray with powder, cure, remove
tape, etch. Bonus conformal coating in a weird colour.

Now I'm wondering if crankorgan's 'scratch & etch' idea would work here.
Coat the blank PCB (even both sizes), partially cure (fully cured powder
coat is bloody hard to get off), scratch off the isolation traces, fully
cure the powder, and etch. Downside is the pads are still covered in powder
coat (a very hot iron would burn the powder off), but you could make your
PCBs a hot pink (Barbi) colour.

Rather than 'scratch', the powder could be blown off the traces with a very
fine air stream. I've actually done this (not on PCBs), but the PCB needs
to be very carefully handled. I don't like your chances for very fine work.

Some less lazy than me should go try it.

Tony


> Tony,
> Good link to the eBay sources of ES paint powder. A pound of paint will do
> acres of pcbs :)
>
> That is the standard process for ES painting. In this case we are
"cheating"
> a bit by using the wet inkjet ink as a temporary adhesive.
>
> Overall, it works very well. I found it a lot easier than regular toner
> transfer. No fighting with multiple runs through a laminator and removing
> the paper afterward..
>
> Myc
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Tony Smith <ajsmith@...> wrote:
>
> > > I knew from Voltan's work that he was able to print a solder mask.
(I
> > was
> > > never able to correctly cure the ink) and decided to try the Toner
> > Dusting
> > > process instead.
> > >
> > > I was looking at replacing the black toner with other fusible fine
> > powder,
> > > hopefully a white or yellow one, to use as component legends. I had
seen
> > > some electrostatic painting on a TV show and thought it might work,
> > though
> > > most of the time the metal items were baked at a very high temp. I did
a
> > > search and found that the ES paint was also used on MDF, so a lower
temp
> > > fuse was possible. There are a few different types of ES powder.
> > >
> > > I found some ES powder paint at SEARS for only $6 and am trying it. I
am
> > > told it also is available at some auto parts stores. The SEARS version
> > has
> > > slightly larger particle sizes.
> > >
> > > I've just started playing with it. It seems to give a very thick
coating.
> > > Try to avoid the gold fleck version, The goldish particles are very
small
> > > and are hard to remove.
> > >
> > > Toner dusting is a very simple process and easy to try. Like toner
> > > transfer you have to fine tune it to your set up.
> > >
> > > Myc
> >
> > You're describing powder coating, searching for that will turn up more
> > stuff. As you say, it's not that hard.
> >
> > Plenty of powder on eBay, in any colour you want, typically under $10
per
> > pound, and a pound goes a long way.
> >
> > The standard way to apply is blow the powder past high voltage (say
> > 15-100kV), this applies a charge to the powder which causes it to stick
to
> > the metal. To do wood such as MDF it needs to be coated with something
to
> > make it conductive first. You may have trouble finding that and the low
> > temperature cure powder.
> >
> > The other way is to heat the part up (~150C / 300F) and either dip it in
> > the
> > powder or sprinkle the powder onto it. Either way the powder will melt
and
> > stick to it. I'm not sure if it'll stick to the PCB material (copper
traces
> > are ok), someone will need to try it. With a mask you could do it cold,
put
> > the mask over the PCB, sprinkle the powder, then put it (very
carefully!)
> > into an oven to cure.
> >
> > Powders are typically cured at 200C (~400F) for about 10 minutes,
although
> > you can trade temp for time, eg 350F for 15 minutes etc. The oven can
just
> > be one of those little toaster ovens. This is to cure it properly, it'll
> > still stick if not properly cured, it just won't be as resistant to
> > chipping
> > etc.
> >
> > It also needs to be absolutely clean otherwise the powder may not stick.
In
> > this case it's not a huge drama, and the normal PCB cleaning procedures
> > (wipe with acetone, rinse with distilled water etc) are ok.
> >
> > Powder coating is good fun, it beats painting hands down.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
>
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