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I've been experimenting recently with the different papers that others
have been reporting the pros/cons and wanted to 'chime' in with my vote:

Hammermill 163020

Glossy both sides, light weight so it soaks through quickly.  Easy
removal following cooling period. CHEAP!!

I personally think this stuff is great!  The three boards that I have
used this stuff on were perfect.  I also felt that the paper removal
following a brief water soak was especially easy!!  I ended up buying
mine online through Sams Club (as some others recommended).  My total
cost was $7.00 + $4.95 shipping.  Paper was ordered on Sat. and received
it on Tues, this past week.  My opinion is that this is the way to go,
as I see no difficiencies.

I realize that this has been discussed before, but I thought I just HAD
to express my delight.  If you don't have a Sam's Club membership, find
someone that does and have them order it for you,  just get this
stuff...

Jim [:D]







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My 2-cents.... I emailed Hammermill and they sent me two sample packs 
so I got 50 sheets from them. I also ordered from officebella.com, 
paper was 6.74, and s/h 6.75 so now I have 350 sheets of paper, BUT 
I'm waiting on a part from Electronix-Express so I can make the 
pattern. My other pennies worth, I'm now using Diptrace (another 
yahoo group) and I must say it is really a good piece of software and 
is worth a try.
Izzo

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wb5kye100" <jflan@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I've been experimenting recently with the different papers that 
others
> have been reporting the pros/cons and wanted to 'chime' in with my 
vote:
> 
> Hammermill 163020
> 
> Glossy both sides, light weight so it soaks through quickly.  Easy
> removal following cooling period. CHEAP!!
> 
> I personally think this stuff is great!  The three boards that I 
have
> used this stuff on were perfect.  I also felt that the paper removal
> following a brief water soak was especially easy!!  I ended up 
buying
> mine online through Sams Club (as some others recommended).  My 
total
> cost was $7.00 + $4.95 shipping.  Paper was ordered on Sat. and 
received
> it on Tues, this past week.  My opinion is that this is the way to 
go,
> as I see no difficiencies.
> 
> I realize that this has been discussed before, but I thought I just 
HAD
> to express my delight.  If you don't have a Sam's Club membership, 
find

> someone that does and have them order it for you,  just get this
> stuff...
> 
> Jim [:D]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

An upgrade has just been published for Diptrace, v1.40. There were 
many significant additions and improvements. For this group the two 
new goodies are the ability to set the colors on the printout (direct 
to inkjet printing). and the free version now supports manufacturing 
file outputs. like DXF and gerber. Included is a isolation milling 
output.

Oh yes, for those EAGLE users, Diptrace now includes a couple of 
ULP's to allow Diptrace to import EAGLE schematics and board files.

The free version is limited only to the number of pins, not the size 
of the board.

Myc

Former EAGLE user and Diptrace convert

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "izzo47" <izzo47@...> wrote:
>
> My 2-cents.... I emailed Hammermill and they sent me two sample 
packs 
> so I got 50 sheets from them. I also ordered from officebella.com, 
> paper was 6.74, and s/h 6.75 so now I have 350 sheets of paper, BUT 
> I'm waiting on a part from Electronix-Express so I can make the 
> pattern. My other pennies worth, I'm now using Diptrace (another 
> yahoo group) and I must say it is really a good piece of software 
and 
> is worth a try.
> Izzo
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wb5kye100" <jflan@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I've been experimenting recently with the different papers that 
> others
> > have been reporting the pros/cons and wanted to 'chime' in with 
my 
> vote:
> > 
> > Hammermill 163020
> > 
> > Glossy both sides, light weight so it soaks through quickly.  Easy
> > removal following cooling period. CHEAP!!
> > 
> > I personally think this stuff is great!  The three boards that I 
> have
> > used this stuff on were perfect.  I also felt that the paper 
removal
> > following a brief water soak was especially easy!!  I ended up 
> buying
> > mine online through Sams Club (as some others recommended).  My 
> total
> > cost was $7.00 + $4.95 shipping.  Paper was ordered on Sat. and 
> received
> > it on Tues, this past week.  My opinion is that this is the way 
to 
> go,
> > as I see no difficiencies.
> > 
> > I realize that this has been discussed before, but I thought I 
just 
> HAD
> > to express my delight.  If you don't have a Sam's Club 
membership, 

> find
> > someone that does and have them order it for you,  just get this
> > stuff...
> > 
> > Jim [:D]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

>
>  Former EAGLE user and Diptrace convert
>


I just could not get 'into eagle mode' and have used diptrace about a
year now, I often use it for things other than PCB's, just used it to
do a floor plan showing fire points etc.........

Cool!  Glad it's working for you too (and it's not just me).  I had
problems with TT in the past and this paper has got me doing TT boards
right & left. Fastest little proto-types I've ever spun.  I do all of
mine in SMD so I don't even have to drill but maybe 6 to 10 holes (and
2 are for alignmemnt for double siding).

I still need to upload pics of my latest board but it turned out
pretty darn good.  (Note to self ... upload board pics)

Glad to hear it's working for you too Jim. 

- phil


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wb5kye100" <jflan@...> wrote:

>
> 
> I've been experimenting recently with the different papers that others
> have been reporting the pros/cons and wanted to 'chime' in with my vote:
> 
> Hammermill 163020
> 
> Glossy both sides, light weight so it soaks through quickly.  Easy
> removal following cooling period. CHEAP!!
> 
> I personally think this stuff is great!  The three boards that I have
> used this stuff on were perfect.  I also felt that the paper removal
> following a brief water soak was especially easy!!  I ended up buying
> mine online through Sams Club (as some others recommended).  My total
> cost was $7.00 + $4.95 shipping.  Paper was ordered on Sat. and received
> it on Tues, this past week.  My opinion is that this is the way to go,
> as I see no difficiencies.
> 
> I realize that this has been discussed before, but I thought I just HAD
> to express my delight.  If you don't have a Sam's Club membership, find
> someone that does and have them order it for you,  just get this
> stuff...
> 
> Jim [:D]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Started using DipTrace myself a few months ago. Used to do all of my
designs with OrCAD 9.2 Demo (9.2 was less limitted than later
releases). It was great for schematics and even spice but was very
limited for PCB stuff (very small boards only). Since the cost is to
high to license OrCAD (they need to offer a home license) I started
checking other packages. DipTrace is by far the best I've seen. It's a
pretty darn good program straight up against the others and for the
price, it just can't be beat in my opinion. I really like it a lot,
the more I use it, the more I'm impressed with how well it works. The
best part is the demo package is very functional and the upgrades to
licences are really reasonable. I'm going to licince mine this month
(when there's a fresh batch of those 30 day dollars).

- phil  (KA0HBG)

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mycroft2152" <mycroft2152y@...>
wrote:

>
> An upgrade has just been published for Diptrace, v1.40. There were 
> many significant additions and improvements. For this group the two 
> new goodies are the ability to set the colors on the printout (direct 
> to inkjet printing). and the free version now supports manufacturing 
> file outputs. like DXF and gerber. Included is a isolation milling 
> output.
> 
> Oh yes, for those EAGLE users, Diptrace now includes a couple of 
> ULP's to allow Diptrace to import EAGLE schematics and board files.
> 
> The free version is limited only to the number of pins, not the size 
> of the board.
> 
> Myc

On 08/05/07, pgdion1 <pgdion1@...> wrote:
>      The
>  best part is the demo package is very functional and the upgrades to
>  licenses are really reasonable. I'm going to license mine this month
>  (when there's a fresh batch of those 30 day dollars).
>

That confuses me, must be a US term for something.

Update on this paper, besides Sam's Club, I was in Office Max last
week and they actually had it on the shelf (Hammermill OfficeOne
Glossy Paper). Shoot, forgot the price now but it was less than $10
for a big pack and no shipping cost. If your Office Max doesn't have
it, they should be able to order it.

- Phil  (KA0HBG)


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wb5kye100" <jflan@...> wrote:
>
> I've been experimenting recently with the different papers that others
> have been reporting the pros/cons and wanted to 'chime' in with my vote:
> 
> Hammermill 163020
> 
> Glossy both sides, light weight so it soaks through quickly.  Easy
removal following cooling period. CHEAP!!
> 
> I personally think this stuff is great!  The three boards that I
have used this stuff on were perfect.