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Re: PCB Mill/Drill Project

2002-04-10 by n4onl

Try this a second time since it didn t appear to post... ... shoot ... and ... look a ... this ... just ... Hi John, All questions comments, ect. welcome.

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Homebuilt PCB milling machine, another

2002-04-10 by Steve Greenfield

Skateboard bearings! http://www.roboshack.com/index.html Steve Greenfield __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center -

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German PCB milling machine

2002-04-10 by Steve Greenfield

http://www.radixgmbh.de/ Doesn t that price translate to approximately $800 USD? Anyone here read German? Steve

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laser diode photoplotter

2002-04-10 by Adam Seychell

Hello group, Has anyone here thought about building or even built a drum photoplotter based on a red LED laser diode ? This would be used for making printing

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-08 by crankorgan

Hi Steve, I am redoing one of my controller boards. It will now drive 4 wire motors. I am drawing the isolation paths in TurbCad. People ask me why I don t use

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-08 by Steve Greenfield

... Yeah! And very little to modify a plotter. Just take an empty pen and drill out the center to fit a carbide tipped pen. Maybe cut off most of the carbide

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-08 by crankorgan

Hi KPL, You are using the wrong coating if it cracks. See Denny s post! I mill circuit boards all the time. The idea of Scratch and Etch came to me the other

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Making film negatives

2002-04-07 by Tim Goldstein

If you are looking to go to a film there is a very nice product sold by M&R Marking. It is a negative film system that has extremely easy to use water based

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-07 by milwiron@terrorbydesign.com

Hey John, Thank you for the kind words. A router is still the path for me but I think you ve come up with an excellent idea for people who want to use plotters

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-06 by crankorgan

Hi Alan, I think Denny nailed it! Yes I am talking isolation. You only etch a thin line between traces. Or you can have the point go around a second time and

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-06 by crankorgan

Denny, Great job! When the idea hit me I was working on a 4 axis 4 wire controller board. I try to be innovative. Like I said in my first message. I am here to

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-06 by Alan Marconett KM6VV

Hi John, I recall the JFax, and AEA s fax. Milling PCB s is quite a challenge, and even more interesting! I didn t quite get the scratch and etch . This is

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-06 by milwiron@terrorbydesign.com

Hello Steve, John and All, I had to run a sample of a redesigned board Saturday morning so I tried a simple Scratch and Etch test of John s idea. Here are some

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] UV Light Source

2002-04-06 by Adam Seychell

I have agree with Tom on the plain mercury vapor street lamps. they are cheap, readily available and work great. I use 400W, no reflectors, 400 mm distance and

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-06 by Russell Shaw

http://www.dupont.com/pcm/riston/laserseries/fundamentals.html http://www.anvik.com/results.html ... You could have a fibre-optic cable close to the pcb resist

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-06 by crankorgan

Alan, Ralph had a BBS that I used to visit. I drew up his ZipZap antenna as a ZIP package. Fax Dahl was software that would turn Fax audio from my R71a to VGA

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-06 by Alan Marconett KM6VV

Hi John, Yes! I have Taggert s book, and I played around with weather fax s, but AFTER CRT s were common. what is FAX_Dhals? A software package? 73 s, Alan

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Exposing Photoresist

2002-04-05 by twb8899

Hi Steve and the group, Most of the dry film photo resist used for printed circuits requires lamps to have the peak spectral output at 365 nanometers. They

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by crankorgan

Hi Alan, I built a similar unit for receiving Radio Faxes from around the world VIA a shortwave radio. My unit used stepping motors from a floppy. That s 20

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by Steve Greenfield

... His new website has more info on it: http://pico-systems.com/ Check out Machining , too, it has more info including the photo plotter. Steve Greenfield

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by Steve Greenfield

Yes, but that happens anyway. You ll only be etching out a narrow channel to start with, so I can t see it being any more of a problem than etching the

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by Henrik Olsson

Denny, list, Interesting idea, but..... If you do scratch thru the coating and into the copper there will be a big chance of under-etching. That is when the

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] UV Light Source

2002-04-05 by Steve Greenfield

Don t stop! It is good to have you here. So can you tell us, is my memory faulty or does it only require near UV to expose PCB photoresist? I used to use a

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by Alan Marconett KM6VV

Hi Steve, John, list, check out Jon E s photo plotter: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jmelson/photoplot.html While it plots to film, I think you can get a few

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UV Light Source

2002-04-05 by twb8899

I m new here but find this list very interesting. A good UV lighting system is the plain old mercury vapor lamps. These are commonly used for dusk-to-dawn

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by Steve Greenfield

... Great idea. Anyone here have some and some etchant and want to try it and report back here? Nothing fancy, just coat a scrap of board and then scratch the

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by crankorgan

Steve, In most software you can set the width of the milled area or Isolation. When using a plotter, there will be less drag if the point is fine. Hey Steve!

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by Steve Greenfield

This might be a wierd idea, just say so if it is- How about a pointed bit used in your PCB milling machine, with the laquer coating and a bath in the etchant

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by crankorgan

Hi Denny, The acid will also stay strong because there is less copper etched when doing isolation. I use the Think and Tinker bits. They only last a little

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Re: Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by crankorgan

Hi Steve, I feel by using the Scratch and Etch method, pen speed and flow will be out of the picture. Most software will allow the outlining to be done. I

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by milwiron@terrorbydesign.com

I m finding John s idea pretty intriguing. Just to take the brainstorming another step: One big problem with PCB routers is tool life and their cost. But using

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by milwiron@terrorbydesign.com

... Very interesting idea. You could use layout fluid for metal working. Most are a lacquer type base and scratch very cleanly since that s exactly what

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by Steve Greenfield

Yep, far too long to expose, and the problem of blooming . UV laser, anyone? That sounds do-able! It would just require modifying a pen with one of those

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Scratch and Etch

2002-04-05 by crankorgan

Hi, Nobody liked my light on a plotter idea. I was told the light source would have to move too slow. The board would take way to long. Ok, I use Mechanical

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