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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A154 clock function

RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A154 clock function

2002-11-13 by unknown freak

As long as it's a VC clock with versatile range.  Otherwise, you're
really better off with a VCO or VCLFO.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:58 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A154 clock function
> 
> 
> i agree.
> bakis.
> 
> 
> --- ethanzer0 <ethanzer0@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Given that philosophy, I think the
> > > clock generator function should be 
> > > removed from the A154. I don't quite 
> > > see how its different than adding 
> > > an envelope function to this module. 
> > 
> > At the risk of being drawn into a
> > lengthy argument, I would like
> > to my point of view on this.
> > 
> > A sequence by definition is
> > chronological events.  A chronometer
> > is another name for a clock.
> > Without a clock, you cannot have
> > a sequence.
> > 
> > $.02
> > 
> > Ethan
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: A154 clock function

2002-11-15 by Joe Buechler

> Without a clock, you cannot have
> a sequence.

Ethan (my friend from the Oberheim Matrix group), what you say is 
true. However, I already have several clocks: some A110s, an A111, 
some A145s, an A147 (right next to the A155 to use as a clock source), 
an A190 and an A191. Why should I want yet another one?

I'm willing to be convinced, but no one has made the case.

> As long as it's a VC clock with versatile range.  Otherwise, you're
> really better off with a VCO or VCLFO.

Charles, I think that's what's called hitting the nail on the head.

What is the range of the A154 clock generator, anyway? How slow should 
it be able to run? How fast? Should it extend up into the audio range 
to support use of the A155 as a graphic VCO? 

What are the CV characteristics of the A154 clock generator? Is it 
volt/octave, to support use of the A155 as a graphic VCO, or is it 
something else? Should it be switchable?

I'll say it again, shouldn't it be able to either free run, or sync to 
an incoming clock signal? What if I want to modulate the pulse width 
when I'm using the A190 clock? Why can't the A154 clock generator 
support this?

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <cgraef@n...> wrote:
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@y...] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:58 PM
> > To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A154 clock function
> > 
> > 
> > i agree.
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- ethanzer0 <ethanzer0@y...> wrote:
> > > > Given that philosophy, I think the
> > > > clock generator function should be 
> > > > removed from the A154. I don't quite 
> > > > see how its different than adding 
> > > > an envelope function to this module. 
> > > 
> > > At the risk of being drawn into a
> > > lengthy argument, I would like
> > > to my point of view on this.
> > > 
> > > A sequence by definition is
> > > chronological events.  A chronometer
> > > is another name for a clock.
> > > Without a clock, you cannot have
> > > a sequence.
> > > 
> > > $.02
> > > 
> > > Ethan
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > =====
> > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> > athens-greece
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > 
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> >

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A154 clock function

2002-11-15 by bakis Sirros

hi joe,
i'm thinking about the same questions!i,too ,would
want the integrated vc clock to run on audio
frequencies!also,even if the vc clock doesn't reach
the audio spectrum,i WOULD WANT the control section of
the a154(and of the a155)to be able to run on audio
freqs and ,therefore, to let us use the a155 as a
graphic vco!!!!i'm telling you this because newer
a155's CANNOT run in audio frequencies(because of a
mod from doepfer,in their control boards).so, I REALLY
HOPE THAT THIS MOD DOESN'T EXIST IN THE A154!!!!OR,IF
IT DOES ,THAT IT CAN EASILY BE UNDONE!!!!
and if the vc clock responds to 1volt/oct it could be
used as the a155 controller for graphic vco
applications.
anyway,i'll forward this email to dieter,in order TO
ANSWER TO MY QUESTIONS AND TO YOURS,TOO.
bakis.




--- Joe Buechler <buechlerjoe@toadmail.com> wrote:
> > Without a clock, you cannot have
> > a sequence.
> 
> Ethan (my friend from the Oberheim Matrix group),
> what you say is 
> true. However, I already have several clocks: some
> A110s, an A111, 
> some A145s, an A147 (right next to the A155 to use
> as a clock source), 
> an A190 and an A191. Why should I want yet another
> one?
> 
> I'm willing to be convinced, but no one has made the
> case.
> 
> > As long as it's a VC clock with versatile range. 
> Otherwise, you're
> > really better off with a VCO or VCLFO.
> 
> Charles, I think that's what's called hitting the
> nail on the head.
> 
> What is the range of the A154 clock generator,
> anyway? How slow should 
> it be able to run? How fast? Should it extend up
> into the audio range 
> to support use of the A155 as a graphic VCO? 
> 
> What are the CV characteristics of the A154 clock
> generator? Is it 
> volt/octave, to support use of the A155 as a graphic
> VCO, or is it 
> something else? Should it be switchable?
> 
> I'll say it again, shouldn't it be able to either
> free run, or sync to 
> an incoming clock signal? What if I want to modulate
> the pulse width 
> when I'm using the A190 clock? Why can't the A154
> clock generator 
> support this?
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak
> <cgraef@n...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bakis Sirros
> [mailto:synth_freak_2000@y...] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:58 PM
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A154 clock
> function
> > > 
> > > 
> > > i agree.
> > > bakis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- ethanzer0 <ethanzer0@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Given that philosophy, I think the
> > > > > clock generator function should be 
> > > > > removed from the A154. I don't quite 
> > > > > see how its different than adding 
> > > > > an envelope function to this module. 
> > > > 
> > > > At the risk of being drawn into a
> > > > lengthy argument, I would like
> > > > to my point of view on this.
> > > > 
> > > > A sequence by definition is
> > > > chronological events.  A chronometer
> > > > is another name for a clock.
> > > > Without a clock, you cannot have
> > > > a sequence.
> > > > 
> > > > $.02
> > > > 
> > > > Ethan
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =====
> > > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> > > athens-greece
> > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > > 
> > >
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Re: A155 range input mod

2002-11-15 by ringmod45

hi Bakis, could you ask Mr.Doepfer for more details as to why the mod 
was implemented? thanks.

regards,
RM


i'm telling you this because newer
> a155's CANNOT run in audio frequencies(because of a
> mod from doepfer,in their control boards).

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A155 range input mod

2002-11-15 by bakis Sirros

hi ringmod,
in fact,i think i know why it was implemented:the
moded,newer a155's can work with imperfect pulse clock
signals now.they can now use even triangle or saw
waves as clock signals and work totaly normal(not in
the random way that the older a155's work).also,if you
use the a155 with the step button you can really move
forwards one step at a time and not many steps at one
button push(as the older a155's like to
behave...).BUT,i prefer my a155's to work on audio
frequencies and behave like crazy when i clock them
with triangle or saw waves!!!!
AM I RIGHT ON ALL THESE ,DIETER??
bakis.




--- ringmod45 <ringmod45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> hi Bakis, could you ask Mr.Doepfer for more details
> as to why the mod 
> was implemented? thanks.
> 
> regards,
> RM
> 
> 
> i'm telling you this because newer
> > a155's CANNOT run in audio frequencies(because of
> a
> > mod from doepfer,in their control boards).
> 
> 


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