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WTB: A-126 VCFS

2010-12-29 by Matt

Ha hum, I've finally succumbed and ordered an A-100 modular from
Thomann (G9 Suitcase and a good variety of VCOs & modulation) but the
A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter is no longer available.
Does anyone have one they'd like to sell me? I'm in London UK and
could pay via PayPal.

Thanks,
Matt

Re: [Doepfer_a100] WTB: A-126 VCFS

2010-12-29 by Andrew Capon

Hi Matt,

Have you tried EMIS in the UK, they may have one.

http://www.aues21.dsl.pipex.com/

0117 956 1855

Cheers

Andy

On 29 Dec 2010, at 15:43, Matt wrote:

> Ha hum, I've finally succumbed and ordered an A-100 modular from
> Thomann (G9 Suitcase and a good variety of VCOs & modulation) but the
> A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter is no longer available.
> Does anyone have one they'd like to sell me? I'm in London UK and
> could pay via PayPal.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] WTB: A-126 VCFS

2010-12-29 by Matt

Thanks Andy but it's listed as discontinued on the EMIS site. Matt
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On 29 December 2010 16:06, Andrew Capon <andrew.capon@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> Have you tried EMIS in the UK, they may have one.
>
> http://www.aues21.dsl.pipex.com/
>
> 0117 956 1855
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
> On 29 Dec 2010, at 15:43, Matt wrote:
>
>> Ha hum, I've finally succumbed and ordered an A-100 modular from
>> Thomann (G9 Suitcase and a good variety of VCOs & modulation) but the
>> A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter is no longer available.
>> Does anyone have one they'd like to sell me? I'm in London UK and
>> could pay via PayPal.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] WTB: A-126 VCFS

2010-12-29 by Andrew Capon

Hi Matt,

How about an alternative, the MOTM E650 Deflector Shield looks nice!

http://postmodular.co.uk/motm/e560-deflector-shield-coming-soon

I want one anyway :)

Andy

On 29 Dec 2010, at 16:09, Matt wrote:

> Thanks Andy but it's listed as discontinued on the EMIS site. Matt
> 
> On 29 December 2010 16:06, Andrew Capon <andrew.capon@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Have you tried EMIS in the UK, they may have one.
> >
> > http://www.aues21.dsl.pipex.com/
> >
> > 0117 956 1855
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On 29 Dec 2010, at 15:43, Matt wrote:
> >
> >> Ha hum, I've finally succumbed and ordered an A-100 modular from
> >> Thomann (G9 Suitcase and a good variety of VCOs & modulation) but the
> >> A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter is no longer available.
> >> Does anyone have one they'd like to sell me? I'm in London UK and
> >> could pay via PayPal.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Matt
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] WTB: A-126 VCFS

2010-12-29 by Matt

Hi Andy,

Nice but the A-126 was EUR 180 so the MOTM is about twice as
expensive. Cwejman also do a nice one for even more money.

Matt
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On 29 December 2010 16:25, Andrew Capon <andrew.capon@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> How about an alternative, the MOTM E650 Deflector Shield looks nice!
>
> http://postmodular.co.uk/motm/e560-deflector-shield-coming-soon
>
> I want one anyway :)
>
> Andy
>
> On 29 Dec 2010, at 16:09, Matt wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andy but it's listed as discontinued on the EMIS site. Matt
>>
>> On 29 December 2010 16:06, Andrew Capon <andrew.capon@zen.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Hi Matt,
>> >
>> > Have you tried EMIS in the UK, they may have one.
>> >
>> > http://www.aues21.dsl.pipex.com/
>> >
>> > 0117 956 1855
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> > On 29 Dec 2010, at 15:43, Matt wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ha hum, I've finally succumbed and ordered an A-100 modular from
>> >> Thomann (G9 Suitcase and a good variety of VCOs & modulation) but the
>> >> A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter is no longer available.
>> >> Does anyone have one they'd like to sell me? I'm in London UK and
>> >> could pay via PayPal.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] WTB: A-126 VCFS

2010-12-29 by Andrew Capon

Handy with a soldering iron: http://electro-music.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18587

On 29 Dec 2010, at 16:33, Matt <matt.fretton@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
> 
> Nice but the A-126 was EUR 180 so the MOTM is about twice as
> expensive. Cwejman also do a nice one for even more money.
> 
> Matt
> 
> On 29 December 2010 16:25, Andrew Capon <andrew.capon@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > How about an alternative, the MOTM E650 Deflector Shield looks nice!
> >
> > http://postmodular.co.uk/motm/e560-deflector-shield-coming-soon
> >
> > I want one anyway :)
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On 29 Dec 2010, at 16:09, Matt wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Andy but it's listed as discontinued on the EMIS site. Matt
> >>
> >> On 29 December 2010 16:06, Andrew Capon <andrew.capon@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > Hi Matt,
> >> >
> >> > Have you tried EMIS in the UK, they may have one.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.aues21.dsl.pipex.com/
> >> >
> >> > 0117 956 1855
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > Andy
> >> >
> >> > On 29 Dec 2010, at 15:43, Matt wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Ha hum, I've finally succumbed and ordered an A-100 modular from
> >> >> Thomann (G9 Suitcase and a good variety of VCOs & modulation) but the
> >> >> A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter is no longer available.
> >> >> Does anyone have one they'd like to sell me? I'm in London UK and
> >> >> could pay via PayPal.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Matt
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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A-126 VCFS problem

2010-12-31 by Richard Scott

Hi

I just sold my A-126 frequency shifter to a list member only to discover 
that it doesn't work anymore! The audio in and out work as normal but 
there is no signal at the shifted outputs.

It was fine a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure nothing like reversed 
power could have happened - but what else could cause this? Seems like 
the internal VCO is probably kaput?

any ideas?

Richard

Re: A-126 VCFS problem

2010-12-31 by Tim

Hi Richard,
 
> It was fine a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure nothing like reversed 
> power could have happened - but what else could cause this? Seems like 
> the internal VCO is probably kaput?

The VCO output is jumpered to the MC1496 chips, so check that these are properly in place/making contact by sliding them off and on a few times - ST3 & ST4. Also, some of the chips may be socketted, including the PA382/CEM3382 chip which is the VCO - gently push them home to make sure that they have not worked loose.

Most of the trimmers on the board are for the phase-shifting filters; those that aren't are unlikely to stop the oscillator working even if they had been touched/moved.

The power supply requirements for the circuit are quite quirky too: two on board regulators provide +/-9V for some reason, and there is also a 'delayed 12V' rail (it comes up after than the main +12V rail I think), and which I think might be to ensure that the VCO does start-up when power is applied - this may be another reason for it not running, but I doubt there is anything simple to be done about it (if indeed that is the problem!).

If it isn't anything simple, it will probably take a scope to sort it...

Tim

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-126 VCFS problem

2011-01-02 by Daniel Troberg

got the same problem here, havent checked the MC1496s yet. exchanging  
the 3382 didnt make any difference
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On 31 dec 2010, at 17.07, Richard Scott wrote:

> Hi
>
> I just sold my A-126 frequency shifter to a list member only to  
> discover
> that it doesn't work anymore! The audio in and out work as normal but
> there is no signal at the shifted outputs.
>
> It was fine a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure nothing like reversed
> power could have happened - but what else could cause this? Seems like
> the internal VCO is probably kaput?
>
> any ideas?
>
> Richard
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-126 VCFS problem

2011-01-02 by xopher d

looking for one of those-



On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Richard Scott <richard_scott@rwnc.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I just sold my A-126 frequency shifter to a list member only to discover 
> that it doesn't work anymore! The audio in and out work as normal but 
> there is no signal at the shifted outputs.
> 
> It was fine a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure nothing like reversed 
> power could have happened - but what else could cause this? Seems like 
> the internal VCO is probably kaput?
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> Richard
> 


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Re: A-126 VCFS problem

2011-01-03 by Tim

Daniel, Richard

> got the same problem here, havent checked the MC1496s yet. exchanging  
> the 3382 didnt make any difference

Discovered I have a Google translate of the service manual, and notice that there were a number of odd problems with early issues of this module - certainly mine has a diode and two caps soldered onto the underside, which I think was its final configuration, so it might be interesting to know if yours have these mods too: a biggish cap, 10uF or 33uF or so, and a smaller one, 1nF or so - if one or other is missing, then it's possible I guess that the module may have spontaneously started exhibiting the problems they fix, but a slim chance I guess!

Also the IC next to the PA382/CEM3382 is better being a TL084 rather than a TL064.

Most of these things were to do with stability issues, and I have little feel for whether they could potentially stop it oscillating - again, it is really going to take hooking the unit up to a scope and poking around.

Tim

Re: A-126 VCFS problem

2011-01-03 by Daniel Troberg

jupp, got those components on the backside too
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On 3 jan 2011, at 02.04, Tim wrote:

> Daniel, Richard
>
>> got the same problem here, havent checked the MC1496s yet. exchanging
>> the 3382 didnt make any difference
>
> Discovered I have a Google translate of the service manual, and  
> notice that there were a number of odd problems with early issues of  
> this module - certainly mine has a diode and two caps soldered onto  
> the underside, which I think was its final configuration, so it  
> might be interesting to know if yours have these mods too: a biggish  
> cap, 10uF or 33uF or so, and a smaller one, 1nF or so - if one or  
> other is missing, then it's possible I guess that the module may  
> have spontaneously started exhibiting the problems they fix, but a  
> slim chance I guess!
>
> Also the IC next to the PA382/CEM3382 is better being a TL084 rather  
> than a TL064.
>
> Most of these things were to do with stability issues, and I have  
> little feel for whether they could potentially stop it oscillating -  
> again, it is really going to take hooking the unit up to a scope and  
> poking around.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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