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I'm doing a project for the local museum that involves scanning and printing
their old photos.  I specified Premier Art 325 Hot Press due to its lack of
OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade resistance in my tests.  My old
samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a rather modest dmax.  I just
received a batch of new paper for the museum project, and it's hitting 1.7
dmax.  Way to go Premier Imaging! 

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 



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Very glad you posted that, Paul. I'm looking to switch from HPR and think I'll give that 
paper a try.

Thanks for sharing,
Sarah


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wrote:

>
> I'm doing a project for the local museum that involves scanning and printing
> their old photos.  I specified Premier Art 325 Hot Press due to its lack of
> OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade resistance in my tests.  My old
> samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a rather modest dmax.  I just
> received a batch of new paper for the museum project, and it's hitting 1.7
> dmax.  Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Paul,  Thanks for the great tip.  I just bought a
supply of PA as I transition from HPR.  In your ICC
for this paper for the 220-R2 does "CC-0" mean Color
Controls unchecked?

Thanks again...

Michael vendrell

--- sagaface <sagaface@...> wrote:

> Very glad you posted that, Paul. I'm looking to
> switch from HPR and think I'll give that 
> paper a try.
> 
> Thanks for sharing,
> Sarah
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm doing a project for the local museum that
> involves scanning and printing
> > their old photos.  I specified Premier Art 325 Hot
> Press due to its lack of
> > OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade
> resistance in my tests.  My old
> > samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a
> rather modest dmax.  I just
> > received a batch of new paper for the museum
> project, and it's hitting 1.7
> > dmax.  Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 


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I sometimes have an ICC for when the driver is set to No Color Adjustment
(NCA) as well as another ICC for when the driver is set to Color Controls
(but with them set to zero, the default, center position).  So, if "CC" or
CC-0" is in the name, have "Color Controls" checked.  What this does is
allow you further control via the sliders.  I may be able to detect with a
loupe a very slightly better image when NCA is checked, but having the
sliders available is another layer of control that is readily available to
tweak a system further, and no 2 machines, paper or ink batches are
identical.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

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Vendrell
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:49 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Premier Art Hot Press 325

 

Paul, Thanks for the great tip. I just bought a
supply of PA as I transition from HPR. In your ICC
for this paper for the 220-R2 does "CC-0" mean Color
Controls unchecked?

Thanks again...

Michael vendrell

--- sagaface <sagaface@yahoo. <mailto:sagaface%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:

> Very glad you posted that, Paul. I'm looking to
> switch from HPR and think I'll give that 
> paper a try.
> 
> Thanks for sharing,
> Sarah
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm doing a project for the local museum that
> involves scanning and printing
> > their old photos. I specified Premier Art 325 Hot
> Press due to its lack of
> > OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade
> resistance in my tests. My old
> > samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a
> rather modest dmax. I just
> > received a batch of new paper for the museum
> project, and it's hitting 1.7
> > dmax. Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/>
k.com/> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Thanks Paul!  I don't mean to sound dense -- but if I
understand correctly: "CC-0" means the profile usually
works best for you with Color Controls <checked> but
with the sliders at the <0> position but that you
sometimes adjust the sliders to compensate for batches
of paper and ink and also to allow for variation of
other's printers? 

At present with your latest batch of PA what slider
positions do you favor?

Thanks again for all this work you do for us...

Michael

--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> I sometimes have an ICC for when the driver is set
> to No Color Adjustment
> (NCA) as well as another ICC for when the driver is
> set to Color Controls
> (but with them set to zero, the default, center
> position).  So, if "CC" or
> CC-0" is in the name, have "Color Controls" checked.
>  What this does is
> allow you further control via the sliders.  I may be
> able to detect with a
> loupe a very slightly better image when NCA is
> checked, but having the
> sliders available is another layer of control that
> is readily available to
> tweak a system further, and no 2 machines, paper or
> ink batches are
> identical.
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael
> Vendrell
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:49 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Premier Art Hot Press
> 325
> 
>  
> 
> Paul, Thanks for the great tip. I just bought a
> supply of PA as I transition from HPR. In your ICC
> for this paper for the 220-R2 does "CC-0" mean Color
> Controls unchecked?
> 
> Thanks again...
> 
> Michael vendrell
> 
> --- sagaface <sagaface@yahoo.
> <mailto:sagaface%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:
> 
> > Very glad you posted that, Paul. I'm looking to
> > switch from HPR and think I'll give that 
> > paper a try.
> > 
> > Thanks for sharing,
> > Sarah
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
>
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm doing a project for the local museum that
> > involves scanning and printing
> > > their old photos. I specified Premier Art 325
> Hot
> > Press due to its lack of
> > > OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade
> > resistance in my tests. My old
> > > samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a
> > rather modest dmax. I just
> > > received a batch of new paper for the museum
> > project, and it's hitting 1.7
> > > dmax. Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar
> <http://www.paulroark.com/>
> k.com/> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Michael,

>...if I understand correctly: "CC-0" means the profile 
> usually works best for you with Color Controls <checked>
> but with the sliders at the <0> position ...

Since the ICC was made with my system, paper, and ink batches, and the
sliders set to "0", that is what works best for me.

> but that you sometimes adjust the sliders to compensate 
> for batches of paper and ink and also to allow for 
> variation of other's printers?

Yes, it's primarily for others.  I don't generally use the sliders.
 
Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> I sometimes have an ICC for when the driver is set
> to No Color Adjustment
> (NCA) as well as another ICC for when the driver is
> set to Color Controls
> (but with them set to zero, the default, center
> position). So, if "CC" or
> CC-0" is in the name, have "Color Controls" checked.
> What this does is
> allow you further control via the sliders. I may be
> able to detect with a
> loupe a very slightly better image when NCA is
> checked, but having the
> sliders available is another layer of control that
> is readily available to
> tweak a system further, and no 2 machines, paper or
> ink batches are
> identical.
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael
> Vendrell
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:49 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Premier Art Hot Press
> 325
> 
> 
> 
> Paul, Thanks for the great tip. I just bought a
> supply of PA as I transition from HPR. In your ICC
> for this paper for the 220-R2 does "CC-0" mean Color
> Controls unchecked?
> 
> Thanks again...
> 
> Michael vendrell
> 
> --- sagaface <sagaface@yahoo.
> <mailto:sagaface%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:
> 
> > Very glad you posted that, Paul. I'm looking to
> > switch from HPR and think I'll give that 
> > paper a try.
> > 
> > Thanks for sharing,
> > Sarah
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
>
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm doing a project for the local museum that
> > involves scanning and printing
> > > their old photos. I specified Premier Art 325
> Hot
> > Press due to its lack of
> > > OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade
> > resistance in my tests. My old
> > > samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a
> > rather modest dmax. I just
> > > received a batch of new paper for the museum
> > project, and it's hitting 1.7
> > > dmax. Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar
> <http://www.paulroark.com/>
> k.com/> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Paul,

Where are you buying this paper?  USFA has been my paper of choice in
the last 6 months, and my understanding is that these are the same.  I
do wonder if they are the same base only, or if they have the same
coating as well.  Anyway, I'd like to do some testing.

Thanks for posting.

Josh



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> I'm doing a project for the local museum that involves scanning and
printing
> their old photos.  I specified Premier Art 325 Hot Press due to its
lack of
> OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade resistance in my tests.  My old
> samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a rather modest dmax.  I just
> received a batch of new paper for the museum project, and it's
hitting 1.7

> dmax.  Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Try www.inkjetart.com
   
  I have been buying from them for years.  They are good to work with.  Nancy

joshhackney <joshhackney@...> wrote:
          
Paul,

Where are you buying this paper? USFA has been my paper of choice in
the last 6 months, and my understanding is that these are the same. I
do wonder if they are the same base only, or if they have the same
coating as well. Anyway, I'd like to do some testing.

Thanks for posting.

Josh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> I'm doing a project for the local museum that involves scanning and
printing
> their old photos. I specified Premier Art 325 Hot Press due to its
lack of
> OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade resistance in my tests. My old
> samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a rather modest dmax. I just
> received a batch of new paper for the museum project, and it's
hitting 1.7
> dmax. Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



         


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Josh,

> Where are you buying this paper? 

http://www.atlex.com/premier/premier-supplies-paper-part-number.htm 

I usually use the 205 weight because of cost.  The 325 is for a museum
project where I was not paying for it.

>USFA has been my paper of choice in
>the last 6 months, and my understanding is that these 
>are the same. I do wonder if they are the same base only,
> or if they have the same coating as well. ...

I used Epson UltraSmooth for a while also -- still have a little left.  It's
250 weight.  The Epson pro media person once told me that Epson has an
exclusive on some of the paper weights and sizes.  Aside from that, it was
my understanding that they were virtually identical.  Whether they have
diverged since that time is an open question.  The latest Hot Press coatings
appear to be slightly different than the original -- better dmax, for
example.  I've noticed that the various weights of the paper also profile
slightly differently.  So, I can't say they are the same, but they are
closely related both in base and coating.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

_______________________
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> I'm doing a project for the local museum that involves scanning and
printing
> their old photos. I specified Premier Art 325 Hot Press due to its
lack of
> OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade resistance in my tests. My old
> samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a rather modest dmax. I just
> received a batch of new paper for the museum project, and it's
hitting 1.7

> dmax. Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I ordered 8.5 x 11 and 13 x 19 sizes from Atlex and
both were back-ordered for about 3 weeks -- I'm still
waiting altho' the price was good so I'm hanging
on....

Michael

--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> Josh,
> 
> > Where are you buying this paper? 
> 
>
http://www.atlex.com/premier/premier-supplies-paper-part-number.htm
> 
> 
> I usually use the 205 weight because of cost.  The
> 325 is for a museum
> project where I was not paying for it.
> 
> >USFA has been my paper of choice in
> >the last 6 months, and my understanding is that
> these 
> >are the same. I do wonder if they are the same base
> only,
> > or if they have the same coating as well. ...
> 
> I used Epson UltraSmooth for a while also -- still
> have a little left.  It's
> 250 weight.  The Epson pro media person once told me
> that Epson has an
> exclusive on some of the paper weights and sizes. 
> Aside from that, it was
> my understanding that they were virtually identical.
>  Whether they have
> diverged since that time is an open question.  The
> latest Hot Press coatings
> appear to be slightly different than the original --
> better dmax, for
> example.  I've noticed that the various weights of
> the paper also profile
> slightly differently.  So, I can't say they are the
> same, but they are
> closely related both in base and coating.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> _______________________
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm doing a project for the local museum that
> involves scanning and
> printing
> > their old photos. I specified Premier Art 325 Hot
> Press due to its
> lack of
> > OBAs, smooth surface, and top notch fade
> resistance in my tests. My old
> > samples of the Hot Press 325, however, had a
> rather modest dmax. I just
> > received a batch of new paper for the museum
> project, and it's
> hitting 1.7
> > dmax. Way to go Premier Imaging! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
>  
> 
> 



 
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