Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-19 by edrudolpho
I'd like to learn about the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl. Is anyone here testing it? If so, is it, like the Silver Rag, optimized for the K3 inksets? Or is someone getting good results with other inks? Ed
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Fine Art Pearl
Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-19 by john dean
I emailed Hahnemuhle to see if I could have some samples to be a beta tester and compare with Silver Rag. The project head Christensen, said they would be interested in having me test future products but this one was already out of beta tests. That sounded strange to me since no one I know has even seen it except Jimmy Doyle at a trade show and he doesn't even have any to play with yet. So, it's all a mystery to me, but evidently it is a little smoother than Silver Rag but is not a cotton based paper but rather an alpha cellulose sheet, like darkroom fiber. I'm interested in what kind of sheen it may exhibit. I'm sure Hahnemuhle doesn't want to give this market away to Crane. May the best man win. Personally the word "Pearl" worries me a little. It brings to mind the Cibachrome Pearl which was a sad surface. John --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" <erudolph@...> wrote: > > I'd like to learn about the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl. Is anyone here testing it? If so, > is it, like the Silver Rag, optimized for the K3 inksets? Or is someone getting good
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Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-20 by Eleanor Brown
I did the same thing and got the same response. I then wrote back and asked what the new paper is like and when will i be able to purchase it. I never heard back. anyone know anything about this paper and how it compares to silver rag? eleanor --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote:
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> > > I emailed Hahnemuhle to see if I could have some samples to be a beta > tester and compare with Silver Rag. The project head Christensen, said > they would be interested in having me test future products but this > one was already out of beta tests. That sounded strange to me since no > one I know has even seen it except Jimmy Doyle at a trade show and he > doesn't even have any to play with yet. > > So, it's all a mystery to me, but evidently it is a little smoother > than Silver Rag but is not a cotton based paper but rather an alpha > cellulose sheet, like darkroom fiber. I'm interested in what kind of > sheen it may exhibit. I'm sure Hahnemuhle doesn't want to give this > market away to Crane. May the best man win. Personally the word > "Pearl" worries me a little. It brings to mind the Cibachrome Pearl > which was a sad surface. > > John > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" > <erudolph@> wrote: > > > > I'd like to learn about the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl. Is anyone > here testing it? If so, > > is it, like the Silver Rag, optimized for the K3 inksets? Or is > someone getting good > > results with other inks? > > > > Ed > > >
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-20 by Carl Schofield
Outback photo is expecting some for review shortly and the paper is supposed to be available next month. Carl
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On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:01 PM, Eleanor Brown wrote: > I did the same thing and got the same response. I then wrote back > and asked what the > new paper is like and when will i be able to purchase it. I never > heard back. anyone know > anything about this paper and how it compares to silver rag? eleanor > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" > <deanwork2003@...> > wrote: >> >> >> I emailed Hahnemuhle to see if I could have some samples to be a beta >> tester and compare with Silver Rag. The project head Christensen, >> said >> they would be interested in having me test future products but this >> one was already out of beta tests. That sounded strange to me >> since no >> one I know has even seen it except Jimmy Doyle at a trade show and he >> doesn't even have any to play with yet. >> >> So, it's all a mystery to me, but evidently it is a little smoother >> than Silver Rag but is not a cotton based paper but rather an alpha >> cellulose sheet, like darkroom fiber. I'm interested in what kind of >> sheen it may exhibit. I'm sure Hahnemuhle doesn't want to give this >> market away to Crane. May the best man win. Personally the word >> "Pearl" worries me a little. It brings to mind the Cibachrome Pearl >> which was a sad surface. >> >> John
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-20 by Jim Doyle
Hi Gang OK Here you go.. hahnemuhle Pearl is an Alpha Cellulose Paper and It�s a Thinner sheet at 285 gsm and a much whiter shite that the OBA Free 100% Cootton Silver Rag. I Only saw two sheets of it at PMA and it had the same B&W Image printed on both sheets..From what I Hear they are 6-8 weeks away will see. As of today 17 & 44 inch rolls of Silver rag have been Shipped.. This week 24 inch rolls will ship (I Hope) Cut Sheets are expected the week of march 27th Innova F-Type Gloss will be available In cut Sheets ( We Hope) The Last week Of March or 1st week Of April The Innova F-Type Gloss is also Alpha Cellulose and has been tested and Talked about on the lists ( Da�Vinc) as its already hit the street in th UK.. So There you have it.. I Belive They will all have similar Price Points. All Have a different base sheet color and all produce a real nice print from what I Have seen. (I Have printed the Silver Rag & Innova ) Hope this Helps Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill NJ 08003 856-424-8660 HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"http://www.shadesofpaper.com _____
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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor Brown Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:02 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl I did the same thing and got the same response. I then wrote back and asked what the new paper is like and when will i be able to purchase it. I never heard back. anyone know anything about this paper and how it compares to silver rag? eleanor --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote: > > > I emailed Hahnemuhle to see if I could have some samples to be a beta > tester and compare with Silver Rag. The project head Christensen, said > they would be interested in having me test future products but this > one was already out of beta tests. That sounded strange to me since no > one I know has even seen it except Jimmy Doyle at a trade show and he > doesn't even have any to play with yet. > > So, it's all a mystery to me, but evidently it is a little smoother > than Silver Rag but is not a cotton based paper but rather an alpha > cellulose sheet, like darkroom fiber. I'm interested in what kind of > sheen it may exhibit. I'm sure Hahnemuhle doesn't want to give this > market away to Crane. May the best man win. Personally the word > "Pearl" worries me a little. It brings to mind the Cibachrome Pearl > which was a sad surface. > > John > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" > <erudolph@> wrote: > > > > I'd like to learn about the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl. Is anyone > here testing it? If so, > > is it, like the Silver Rag, optimized for the K3 inksets? 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[Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-20 by Tyler Boley
Apparently it has a lot of OBs, so possibly a bit blueish. I'll be very interested in the Innova offering, could sit nicely in the middle. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <scho@...> wrote:
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> > Outback photo is expecting some for review shortly and the paper is > supposed to be available next month. > > Carl > > On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:01 PM, Eleanor Brown wrote: > > > I did the same thing and got the same response. I then wrote back > > and asked what the > > new paper is like and when will i be able to purchase it. I never > > heard back. anyone know > > anything about this paper and how it compares to silver rag? eleanor > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" > > <deanwork2003@> > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> I emailed Hahnemuhle to see if I could have some samples to be a beta > >> tester and compare with Silver Rag. The project head Christensen, > >> said > >> they would be interested in having me test future products but this > >> one was already out of beta tests. That sounded strange to me > >> since no > >> one I know has even seen it except Jimmy Doyle at a trade show and he > >> doesn't even have any to play with yet. > >> > >> So, it's all a mystery to me, but evidently it is a little smoother > >> than Silver Rag but is not a cotton based paper but rather an alpha > >> cellulose sheet, like darkroom fiber. I'm interested in what kind of > >> sheen it may exhibit. I'm sure Hahnemuhle doesn't want to give this > >> market away to Crane. May the best man win. Personally the word > >> "Pearl" worries me a little. It brings to mind the Cibachrome Pearl > >> which was a sad surface. > >> > >> John >
[Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-20 by sagaface
Thanks for the info, Jim. What did you think of the Hahnemuhle's surface texture, and the prints that you viewed? Sarah --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@...> wrote: > > Hi Gang > > > > OK Here you go.. hahnemuhle Pearl is an Alpha Cellulose Paper and It's a > Thinner sheet at 285 gsm and a much whiter shite that the OBA Free 100% > Cootton Silver Rag. I Only saw two sheets of it at PMA and it had the same > B&W Image printed on both sheets..From what I Hear they are 6-8 weeks away > will see. > > > > As of today 17 & 44 inch rolls of Silver rag have been Shipped.. This week > 24 inch rolls will ship (I Hope) Cut Sheets are expected the week of march > 27th > > > > Innova F-Type Gloss will be available In cut Sheets ( We Hope) The Last week > Of March or 1st week Of April The Innova F-Type Gloss is also Alpha > Cellulose and has been tested and Talked about on the lists ( Da'Vinc) as > its already hit the street in th UK.. > > > > So There you have it.. I Belive They will all have similar Price Points. All > Have a different base sheet color and all produce a real nice print from > what I Have seen. > > (I Have printed the Silver Rag & Innova ) > > > > Hope this Helps > > > > Jim Doyle > > > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC > > 114 Old Orchard Rd > > Cherry Hill NJ 08003 > > 856-424-8660 > > HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"http://www.shadesofpaper.com > > > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor > Brown > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:02 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl > > > > I did the same thing and got the same response. I then wrote back and asked > what the > new paper is like and when will i be able to purchase it. I never heard > back. anyone know > anything about this paper and how it compares to silver rag? eleanor > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" > <deanwork2003@> > wrote: > > > > > > I emailed Hahnemuhle to see if I could have some samples to be a beta > > tester and compare with Silver Rag. The project head Christensen, said > > they would be interested in having me test future products but this > > one was already out of beta tests. That sounded strange to me since no > > one I know has even seen it except Jimmy Doyle at a trade show and he > > doesn't even have any to play with yet. > > > > So, it's all a mystery to me, but evidently it is a little smoother > > than Silver Rag but is not a cotton based paper but rather an alpha > > cellulose sheet, like darkroom fiber. I'm interested in what kind of > > sheen it may exhibit. I'm sure Hahnemuhle doesn't want to give this > > market away to Crane. May the best man win. Personally the word > > "Pearl" worries me a little. It brings to mind the Cibachrome Pearl > > which was a sad surface. > > > > John > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" > > <erudolph@> wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to learn about the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Pearl. Is anyone > > here testing it? 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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-20 by Jim Doyle
The Texture was very Smooth and as Black as the others.. Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill NJ 08003 856-424-8660 HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"http://www.shadesofpaper.com _____
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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sagaface Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:03 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl Thanks for the info, Jim. What did you think of the Hahnemuhle's surface texture, and the prints that you viewed? Sarah --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@...> wrote: > > Hi Gang > > > > OK Here you go.. hahnemuhle Pearl is an Alpha Cellulose Paper and It's a > Thinner sheet at 285 gsm and a much whiter shite that the OBA Free 100% > Cootton Silver Rag. I Only saw two sheets of it at PMA and it had the same > B&W Image printed on both sheets..From what I Hear they are 6-8 weeks away > will see. > > > > As of today 17 & 44 inch rolls of Silver rag have been Shipped.. This week > 24 inch rolls will ship (I Hope) Cut Sheets are expected the week of march > 27th > > > > Innova F-Type Gloss will be available In cut Sheets ( We Hope) The Last week > Of March or 1st week Of April The Innova F-Type Gloss is also Alpha > Cellulose and has been tested and Talked about on the lists ( Da'Vinc) as > its already hit the street in th UK.. > > > > So There you have it.. I Belive They will all have similar Price Points. All > Have a different base sheet color and all produce a real nice print from > what I Have seen. > > (I Have printed the Silver Rag & Innova ) > > > > Hope this Helps > > > > Jim Doyle > > > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC > > 114 Old Orchard Rd > > Cherry Hill NJ 08003 > > 856-424-8660 > > HYPERLINK "HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"http://www.shadesofpaper.com"HYPERLINK "http://www.shadesofpaper.com"http://www.shadesofpaper.com > > > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor > Brown > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:02 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl > > > > I did the same thing and got the same response. I then wrote back and asked > what the > new paper is like and when will i be able to purchase it. I never heard > back. anyone know > anything about this paper and how it compares to silver rag? eleanor > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" > <deanwork2003@> > wrote: > > > > > > I emailed Hahnemuhle to see if I could have some samples to be a beta > > tester and compare with Silver Rag. The project head Christensen, said > > they would be interested in having me test future products but this > > one was already out of beta tests. That sounded strange to me since no > > one I know has even seen it except Jimmy Doyle at a trade show and he > > doesn't even have any to play with yet. > > > > So, it's all a mystery to me, but evidently it is a little smoother > > than Silver Rag but is not a cotton based paper but rather an alpha > > cellulose sheet, like darkroom fiber. I'm interested in what kind of > > sheen it may exhibit. I'm sure Hahnemuhle doesn't want to give this > > market away to Crane. May the best man win. 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-20 by stephenpho@aol.com
I saw the Innova at PMA in Orlando. The surface seemed to have a more pleasing surface texture than Silver Rag. But everything's so new who knows? The Innova rep swiped my card and said he would send samples. Steve Lacko [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Fine Art Pearl
2006-03-21 by Martin Sluka
Answer from Hahnemuehle DE We can not say that this new Hahnemühle Paper is only optimized for K3 inks but what we can say is, that this paper is ideal with Photo Black inks as prints dry faster with them and any bronzing effect can be reduced when using these inks. Martin