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Protection of Prints

Protection of Prints

2006-03-19 by Tina Manley

Digital B&W -

I'm participating in a show that has the potential to be 
controversial.  The museum is concerned about protecting the prints 
and is proposing that rather than use custom, high quality inkjet 
prints (made with the Epson 4800 on fine art paper) which would cost 
about $75 for each 17x22 print, that we go with Costco prints which 
cost $9.90 for a 17x22 and could be easily replaced if defaced or 
damaged.  There is enough money in the grant to pay for one custom 
inkjet print of each photos but not enough to replace them and 
there's not enough money to pay to have them framed behind glass.  I 
definitely want to go with the inkjet prints to show some of the 
diehard, darkroom-only, fanatics how beautiful inkjet prints can 
be.  I've seen them side by side with the Costco prints and there is 
no comparison.  Can anybody come up with an argument for the museum 
or a cheap solution to the protection problem?

TIA -

Tina

Tina Manley, ASMP
http://www.tinamanley.com

Re: [Digital BW] Protection of Prints

2006-03-20 by Carl Schofield

I'm also embarking on a non-traditional exhibit to shake up the  
conservatives in my community and conduct an experiment at the same  
time.  I'm hanging an exhibit next month of 17x22 inch B&W and false  
color infrared prints made on both Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin and BC  
Chromata Canvas.  The prints will be bare naked in Danish  
posterhanger "frames".  The prints will be up for 2 months (if they  
survive that long) in a local cafe venue for artists.  The prints  
will not be offered for sale because they were made using Nanochrome  
inks, but they are beautiful when displayed in this manner without  
glazing, even if they do not last.  Temporal art - sort of like sand  
castles on the beach.

Carl
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On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Tina Manley wrote:

> Digital B&W -
>
> I'm participating in a show that has the potential to be
> controversial.  The museum is concerned about protecting the prints
> and is proposing that rather than use custom, high quality inkjet
> prints (made with the Epson 4800 on fine art paper) which would cost
> about $75 for each 17x22 print, that we go with Costco prints which
> cost $9.90 for a 17x22 and could be easily replaced if defaced or
> damaged.  There is enough money in the grant to pay for one custom
> inkjet print of each photos but not enough to replace them and
> there's not enough money to pay to have them framed behind glass.  I
> definitely want to go with the inkjet prints to show some of the
> diehard, darkroom-only, fanatics how beautiful inkjet prints can
> be.  I've seen them side by side with the Costco prints and there is
> no comparison.  Can anybody come up with an argument for the museum
> or a cheap solution to the protection problem?
>
> TIA -
>
> Tina
>
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> http://www.tinamanley.com

Re: [Digital BW] Protection of Prints

2006-03-20 by Andrew S. Webb

On 3/19/06 at 4:12 PM GMT Tina Manley arranged some pixels so they
looked like this:

 Can anybody come up with an argument for the museum 
>or a cheap solution to the protection problem?
>
>TIA -
>
>Tina
>

Tina,

Does the museum not have insurance? That would surely cover the cost of
new prints.

_andrew webb

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Re: [Digital BW] Protection of Prints

2006-03-20 by Mark Savoia

Has Wilhelm tested that yet?
:)
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On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Carl Schofield wrote:

> sort of like sand
> castles on the beach

Re: [Digital BW] Protection of Prints

2006-03-20 by Tina Manley

At 12:31 AM 3/20/2006, you wrote:
>Tina,
>
>Does the museum not have insurance? That would surely cover the cost of
>new prints.
>
>_andrew webb

I haven't asked but I imagine they're like everybody else and don't 
want to file claims because their rates will go up ;-)

Tina

Tina Manley, ASMP
http://www.tinamanley.com 

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Re: [Digital BW] Protection of Prints

2006-03-20 by Andrew Eschbacher

Tina,

Why don't you have the high quality prints sprayed with a protective 
coating?  How is the museum going to mount the prints?  I can't imagine 
that any museum would want anything but your best possible work on the 
walls.  Are you sure that the museum isn't biased toward the darkroom 
crowd and is trying to skew the comparison?

Also, where and when will the show occur?  I'm in the area and would be 
interested in seeing it.


Drew Eschbacher
Columbia, SC
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On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Tina Manley wrote:

> Digital B&W -
>
> I'm participating in a show that has the potential to be
> controversial.  The museum is concerned about protecting the prints
> and is proposing that rather than use custom, high quality inkjet
> prints (made with the Epson 4800 on fine art paper) which would cost
> about $75 for each 17x22 print, that we go with Costco prints which
> cost $9.90 for a 17x22 and could be easily replaced if defaced or
> damaged.  There is enough money in the grant to pay for one custom
> inkjet print of each photos but not enough to replace them and
> there's not enough money to pay to have them framed behind glass.  I
> definitely want to go with the inkjet prints to show some of the
> diehard, darkroom-only, fanatics how beautiful inkjet prints can
> be.  I've seen them side by side with the Costco prints and there is
> no comparison.  Can anybody come up with an argument for the museum
> or a cheap solution to the protection problem?
>
> TIA -
>
> Tina
>
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> http://www.tinamanley.com
>
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Re: [Digital BW] Protection of Prints

2006-03-20 by Tina Manley

At 02:54 PM 3/20/2006, you wrote:
>Tina,
>
>Why don't you have the high quality prints sprayed with a protective
>coating?  How is the museum going to mount the prints?  I can't imagine
>that any museum would want anything but your best possible work on the
>walls.  Are you sure that the museum isn't biased toward the darkroom
>crowd and is trying to skew the comparison?

That's possible.  The director admitted that he had never seen inkjet 
prints like the ones I showed him.  He had heard of giclee but 
thought that it was something totally different from inkjet.  We 
haven't decided on how they will be mounted.  There is a project 
director, museum curator, and exhibit designer involved in all of the 
decisions.  I'm just an assistant director, photographer, and in 
charge of the printing ;-)  I think I'm going to have to be 
uncharacteristically aggressive to get what I want.


>Also, where and when will the show occur?

It will open first at the Levine Museum of the New South in Charlotte 
in December, 2006, and is called Families of Abraham.  Hope you can 
come and see it!

Tina

Tina Manley, ASMP
http://www.tinamanley.com 

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