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Hello,

I have asked this before and didn't get a response, I apologize for asking
again but would like to get some information.

I would like to know if it is possible to remove the ink from R4800 carts
and put this ink into the R2400 carts.  The reason for this being the
significant cost savings of the R4800 ink (and a desire to stick with  Epson
inks for now).  I would like to put the ink into MIS spongless carts for the
R2400.

Is this possible?  Are others doing this?  Do I need to do anything to
minimize/prevent the ink from foaming?  Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you

Thanks Ernst,

I think I'm ok with refilling the 2400 carts, but I can't find info on how
to remove the ink from the 4800 carts.  What are the general problems I'll
encounter?  I flushed a cart from an old printer (HP) before, and I got a
lot of foaming.  Will the foam settle (when kept in the storage bottle)?
Should I try to discard it?

What equip. do I need to remove the ink? (syringes-what size?, any bottles
ok for storage?)

Thanks

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> Message: 17      
>    Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:35:25 +0100
>    From: Ernst Dinkla <E.Dinkla@...>
> Subject: Re: Removing Ink from Epson R4800 carts to put into R2400 spongeless
> 
> G Guhan Gunaratnam wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have asked this before and didn't get a response, I apologize for asking
>> again but would like to get some information.
>> 
>> I would like to know if it is possible to remove the ink from R4800 carts
>> and put this ink into the R2400 carts.  The reason for this being the
>> significant cost savings of the R4800 ink (and a desire to stick with  Epson
>> inks for now).  I would like to put the ink into MIS spongless carts for the
>> R2400.
>> 
>> Is this possible?  Are others doing this?  Do I need to do anything to
>> minimize/prevent the ink from foaming?  Any and all help is appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
> 
> It is quite easy to drain the 4800 carts. How to get the inks
> into 2400 carts shouldn't be a problem either I guess but for
> that you should check the MIS site etc.
> 
> Ernst
> 
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>            Ernst Dinkla
> 
> 
> www.pigment-print.com
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There are two simple ways to remove ink from a 4800 cartridge.

1) Prise off the top cover, lift out the bag, snip the corner off and
pour into a bottle, such as a Nalgene bottle.

2) Put a very short length of plastic tubing onto a syringe and make a
slanting cut at the end of the tube. Jab the syringe and tube into the
 valve of the cartridge and suck the ink out. You needn't have a
bottle: you can just fill the R2400 cart from the syringe.

I use method 1), but I have also tried method 2).

Best,
Helen 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, G Guhan
Gunaratnam <guruguhan@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ernst,
> 
> I think I'm ok with refilling the 2400 carts, but I can't find info
on how
> to remove the ink from the 4800 carts.  What are the general
problems I'll
> encounter?  I flushed a cart from an old printer (HP) before, and I
got a
> lot of foaming.  Will the foam settle (when kept in the storage bottle)?
> Should I try to discard it?
> 
> What equip. do I need to remove the ink? (syringes-what size?, any
bottles

> ok for storage?)
> 
> Thanks

Helen Bach wrote:
> There are two simple ways to remove ink from a 4800 cartridge.
> 
> 1) Prise off the top cover, lift out the bag, snip the corner off and
> pour into a bottle, such as a Nalgene bottle.
> 
> 2) Put a very short length of plastic tubing onto a syringe and make a
> slanting cut at the end of the tube. Jab the syringe and tube into the
>  valve of the cartridge and suck the ink out. You needn't have a
> bottle: you can just fill the R2400 cart from the syringe.
> 
> I use method 1), but I have also tried method 2).
> 
> Best,
> Helen 

Helen has summed it up quite well.

I have one method to add that I use to empty, 10000, 9600, 
9800 carts while keeping them usable for someone else.

Take a 1.5 m - 5' tube of about 2-3mm - 1/8" internal diameter 
and use a part of a syringe coupling (I have Luer>tube 
connectors)  with a small v cut in the end that sits against 
the valve in the cart. That way you press the valve in but at 
the same time the ink can go through the v groove into the 
tube. Hang that cart against the wall at 1.5 m high and a 
bottle at the ground where the tube goes in. Gravity and 
capillary action will suck that cart empty in no time. With 
the 9800/7800/10000 carts you can also blow air into the 
pressure chamber with a short tube at the air connector of 
that cart type. In that case even a syringe doesn't take out more.

Ernst.



                    --
           Ernst Dinkla


www.pigment-print.com
(         unvollendet         )

Thank you so much Helen!

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Helen Bach"
<helenbach@...> wrote:
>
> There are two simple ways to remove ink from a 4800 cartridge.
> 
> 1) Prise off the top cover, lift out the bag, snip the corner off and
> pour into a bottle, such as a Nalgene bottle.
> 
> 2) Put a very short length of plastic tubing onto a syringe and make a
> slanting cut at the end of the tube. Jab the syringe and tube into the
>  valve of the cartridge and suck the ink out. You needn't have a
> bottle: you can just fill the R2400 cart from the syringe.
> 
> I use method 1), but I have also tried method 2).
> 
> Best,
> Helen 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, G Guhan
> Gunaratnam <guruguhan@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Ernst,
> > 
> > I think I'm ok with refilling the 2400 carts, but I can't find info
> on how
> > to remove the ink from the 4800 carts.  What are the general
> problems I'll
> > encounter?  I flushed a cart from an old printer (HP) before, and I
> got a
> > lot of foaming.  Will the foam settle (when kept in the storage
bottle)?

> > Should I try to discard it?
> > 
> > What equip. do I need to remove the ink? (syringes-what size?, any
> bottles
> > ok for storage?)
> > 
> > Thanks
>