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Basic Question About Partioned Black Tones

Basic Question About Partioned Black Tones

2013-01-25 by remononaz1

When printing using printer controls, and without an acv curve, how does the printer know to print from the various the shades of gray in a monotone ink set, for example C-6?  

What keeps the printer from just printing from the black cartridge only?

Re: [Digital BW] Basic Question About Partioned Black Tones

2013-01-26 by Paul Roark

remononaz1 <homershannon@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> When printing using printer controls, and without an acv curve, how does
> the printer know to print from the various the shades of gray in a monotone
> ink set, for example C-6?
>
> What keeps the printer from just printing from the black cartridge only?
>
>  __
>
The printer "assumes" there is the OEM color ink in it.  So, if a neutral
image is sent to it, it'll combine the C, M and Y colors as it assumes is
needed to make a neutral tone.  This works quite well if, and only if, the
B&W inkset was made in a way to be compatible with the Epson driver, like
Eboni/Carbon-6.  The Epson driver ink distribution is not optimal for an
inkset like Eb/C-6 in that it spreads the 2% Y across the entire print,
aside from  the 100% black values, with much less than optimal at the
beginning of the print and too much in the shadows.  However, particularly
with the 1.5 pl drop size, the LC and LM are light enough that the print
will be smooth throughout.  The Epson LM-M and LC-C crossovers are
excellent.  The color to black crossover is less than ideal, but it usually
works OK.

Most current printers do not support a black only mode.  And the few that
do (WorkForce only?) require a special setting in the driver to select that
approach.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


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Re: Basic Question About Partioned Black Tones

2013-01-26 by remononaz1

Thank you for that, Paul. I won't argue that it works - it does, very well. But, I've always wondered exactly how!



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark  wrote:
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> remononaz1  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > When printing using printer controls, and without an acv curve, how does
> > the printer know to print from the various the shades of gray in a monotone
> > ink set, for example C-6?
> >
> > What keeps the printer from just printing from the black cartridge only?
> >
> >  __
> >
> The printer "assumes" there is the OEM color ink in it.  So, if a neutral
> image is sent to it, it'll combine the C, M and Y colors as it assumes is
> needed to make a neutral tone.  This works quite well if, and only if, the
> B&W inkset was made in a way to be compatible with the Epson driver, like
> Eboni/Carbon-6.  The Epson driver ink distribution is not optimal for an
> inkset like Eb/C-6 in that it spreads the 2% Y across the entire print,
> aside from  the 100% black values, with much less than optimal at the
> beginning of the print and too much in the shadows.  However, particularly
> with the 1.5 pl drop size, the LC and LM are light enough that the print
> will be smooth throughout.  The Epson LM-M and LC-C crossovers are
> excellent.  The color to black crossover is less than ideal, but it usually
> works OK.
> 
> Most current printers do not support a black only mode.  And the few that
> do (WorkForce only?) require a special setting in the driver to select that
> approach.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [Digital BW] Basic Question About Partioned Black Tones

2013-01-29 by John

Paul -

Thanks so much for the explanation.  Would you consider adding this
to your papers (such as the Epson 1430 & Eboni-6) ?   I was puzzled
how simply using the driver would work, now it's crystal clear.

Thanks!!!

John P

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark  wrote:
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>
> remononaz1  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > When printing using printer controls, and without an acv curve, how does
> > the printer know to print from the various the shades of gray in a monotone
> > ink set, for example C-6?
> >
> > What keeps the printer from just printing from the black cartridge only?
> >
> >  __
> >
> The printer "assumes" there is the OEM color ink in it.  So, if a neutral
> image is sent to it, it'll combine the C, M and Y colors as it assumes is
> needed to make a neutral tone.  This works quite well if, and only if, the
> B&W inkset was made in a way to be compatible with the Epson driver, like
> Eboni/Carbon-6.  The Epson driver ink distribution is not optimal for an
> inkset like Eb/C-6 in that it spreads the 2% Y across the entire print,
> aside from  the 100% black values, with much less than optimal at the
> beginning of the print and too much in the shadows.  However, particularly
> with the 1.5 pl drop size, the LC and LM are light enough that the print
> will be smooth throughout.  The Epson LM-M and LC-C crossovers are
> excellent.  The color to black crossover is less than ideal, but it usually
> works OK.
> 
> Most current printers do not support a black only mode.  And the few that
> do (WorkForce only?) require a special setting in the driver to select that
> approach.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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