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Base for dye ink

Base for dye ink

2013-01-06 by Keith

Based in the UK, I have just spent an age trying to find a source of Dow Butoxytriglycol to no avail. 

a) Does anyone know of a UK source.

b) Could I use the normal base of;
Glcerol
Foto Flo
Edwal LFN
Water

Keith Dugdale

Re: [Digital BW] Base for dye ink

2013-01-06 by Michael King

Keith,

Did you try these guys, I got my Dow Tergitol from them.

Univar Europe****

Leslie Court****

Western Industrial Estate****

Lon-Y-Llyn****

Caerphilly****

CF83 1BQ.****

UK****


T 02920 855300
F 02920 855331****

*www.univareurope.com*


Let us know how you get on.


Cheers,
Mike

On 6 January 2013 20:12, Keith <keithdale@...> wrote:

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>
>
> Based in the UK, I have just spent an age trying to find a source of Dow
> Butoxytriglycol to no avail.
>
> a) Does anyone know of a UK source.
>
> b) Could I use the normal base of;
> Glcerol
> Foto Flo
> Edwal LFN
> Water
>
> Keith Dugdale
>
>  
>


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Re: [Digital BW] Base for dye ink

2013-01-07 by Paul Roark

Keith <keithdale@...> wrote:

> **
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> Based in the UK, I have just spent an age trying to find a source of Dow
> Butoxytriglycol to no avail.
>
> a) Does anyone know of a UK source.
>
Try searching under CAS # 56-81-5 and/or triethylene glycol monobutyl
ether.  I think this chemical is called different names by different
companies.

 > b) Could I use the normal base of;

> Glcerol
> Foto Flo
> Edwal LFN
> Water
>
>
I don't recommend it.  Butoxytriglycol or triethylene glycol monobutyl
ether is a dye carrier and coupling agent.  I think a base without this in
it would not produce as good or stable results.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


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Re: [Digital BW] Base for dye ink

2013-01-07 by Ernst Dinkla

On 01/06/2013 09:12 PM, Keith wrote:
> Based in the UK, I have just spent an age trying to find a source of Dow
> Butoxytriglycol to no avail.
>
> a) Does anyone know of a UK source.
>
> b) Could I use the normal base of;
> Glcerol
> Foto Flo
> Edwal LFN
> Water
>
> Keith Dugdale

OCP sells some alternatives for gloss enhancers like used in the Epson 
R1900 etc. I still use an OCP gloss enhancer for Kodak thermal head 
printers to mix HP pigment inks for HP thermal heads. That one is 
probably not suitable given the different viscosity used for thermal 
heads but I assume the R1900 one should be good. OCP pricing and 
availability in Europe is as good as it gets. I can get gallon size OCP 
cans if needed.


-- 
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

Re: [Digital BW] Base for dye ink

2013-01-07 by Ernst Dinkla

The OCP alternative ink set for the R1900 is actually dye based. Try a 
sample with the dyes you want to dilute whether the result is stable. 
The gloss enhancer is available in the UK in carts or bulk.

Like this:

https://www.refillsupermarket.co.uk/ocp-ink-epson-t0540-colorless-p-1752.html#.UOqNAEhKhO0

-- 
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

Re: Base for dye ink

2013-01-10 by Glenn

I just started looking for Tergitol 15-S-7 in Australia

Sigma Aldrich lists it in 500ml quantities www.sigmaaldrich.com

Thay also list 24 hits for CAS # 56-81-5, though Tergitol has a different CAS #

They are pretty much worldwide

peace out

Glenn

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla  wrote:
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> The OCP alternative ink set for the R1900 is actually dye based. Try a 
> sample with the dyes you want to dilute whether the result is stable. 
> The gloss enhancer is available in the UK in carts or bulk.
> 
> Like this:
> 
> https://www.refillsupermarket.co.uk/ocp-ink-epson-t0540-colorless-p-1752.html#.UOqNAEhKhO0
> 
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla
> 
> http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
> December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.
>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Base for dye ink

2013-01-10 by Paul Roark

Glenn <glennrbarry@...> wrote:

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> I just started looking for Tergitol 15-S-7 in Australia
>

I don't use Tergitol in the dye base.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


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[Digital BW] Re: Base for dye ink

2013-01-11 by Glenn

Apologies - I skimmed through the earlier messages and saw tergitol mentioned and a source listed

That said sigma aldrich listed quite a few items under the CAS # 56-81-5

I'm not up to speed with the dye dilution base so can't discern between them as to suitability

peace out

Glenn

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> I don't use Tergitol in the dye base.
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> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
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