Digital BW, The Print

I printed my first large panorama on Arches paper that is sold in rolls.  In this case it was a 51 inch by 10 yard roll <http://www.utrechtart.com/Paper,Arches.utrecht>. I sliced off 24 inches from the roll and printed it in the 7800 with the Eboni-HP inkset <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7800-EbHP-2013.pdf>.

The bottom line is that it appears to have worked quite well.

The hardest part was flattening the tightly rolled Arches.  This uncoated watercolor paper (the real thing, not inkjet paper), is internally sized with gelatin.  I did not have a d-roller that was suitable, and I'm not sure if the small diameter one I have would be a good idea anyway.  The painters have all sorts of recommendations for flattening Arches that also did not appeal.

What I did was buy 2 melamine-coated 12 inch by 5 foot shelves that I put on top of the paper, with lightly dampened old wet darkroom Kodak blotter papers between the shelves and Arches.  Humidity softens gelatin and the cellulose.  So after sitting in this sandwich for a few hours the paper was quite flat -- sufficient that there were no head strikes on the paper.

At any rate, Arches in large sizes works.  It's a lot more work than the usual 22 x 30 "full sheet" sizes I usually use, and there is no "bright white" version of Arches in this size.  As usual with Arches, QTR or other rip is essential, and it's not a paper or workflow I'd recommend for most printers.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Paul:
I've made my own "d-roller" from a 3" cardboard core, failing that, use some plastic sewer pipe. Tape a piece of paper to it the full width & at least 6" long. (longer if you are rolling short pieces on the tube). after back rolling it up, I spring clamp it to a table. Let it sit for 1/2 hour or so (depends on the paper type)

John Nollendorfs

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:

>
> I printed my first large panorama on Arches paper that is sold in rolls.  In this case it was a 51 inch by 10 yard roll <http://www.utrechtart.com/Paper,Arches.utrecht>. I sliced off 24 inches from the roll and printed it in the 7800 with the Eboni-HP inkset <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7800-EbHP-2013.pdf>.
> 
> The bottom line is that it appears to have worked quite well.
> 
> The hardest part was flattening the tightly rolled Arches.  This uncoated watercolor paper (the real thing, not inkjet paper), is internally sized with gelatin.  I did not have a d-roller that was suitable, and I'm not sure if the small diameter one I have would be a good idea anyway.  The painters have all sorts of recommendations for flattening Arches that also did not appeal.
> 
> What I did was buy 2 melamine-coated 12 inch by 5 foot shelves that I put on top of the paper, with lightly dampened old wet darkroom Kodak blotter papers between the shelves and Arches.  Humidity softens gelatin and the cellulose.  So after sitting in this sandwich for a few hours the paper was quite flat -- sufficient that there were no head strikes on the paper.
> 
> At any rate, Arches in large sizes works.  It's a lot more work than the usual 22 x 30 "full sheet" sizes I usually use, and there is no "bright white" version of Arches in this size.  As usual with Arches, QTR or other rip is essential, and it's not a paper or workflow I'd recommend for most printers.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

You can fill it with some rice to add some weight.

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Dec 11, 2012, at 3:06 PM, John wrote:

> Paul:
> I've made my own "d-roller" from a 3" cardboard core, failing that, use some plastic sewer pipe. Tape a piece of paper to it the full width & at least 6" long. (longer if you are rolling short pieces on the tube). after back rolling it up, I spring clamp it to a table. Let it sit for 1/2 hour or so (depends on the paper type)
> 
> John Nollendorfs

John,

Thanks much.  I was thinking that making my own d-roller was the next
likely step.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:06 PM, John <jrnolly@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Paul:
> I've made my own "d-roller" from a 3" cardboard core, failing that, use
> some plastic sewer pipe. Tape a piece of paper to it the full width & at
> least 6" long. (longer if you are rolling short pieces on the tube). after
> back rolling it up, I spring clamp it to a table. Let it sit for 1/2 hour
> or so (depends on the paper type)
>
> John Nollendorfs
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I printed my first large panorama on Arches paper that is sold in rolls.
> In this case it was a 51 inch by 10 yard roll <
> http://www.utrechtart.com/Paper,Arches.utrecht>. I sliced off 24 inches
> from the roll and printed it in the 7800 with the Eboni-HP inkset <
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7800-EbHP-2013.pdf>.
> >
> > The bottom line is that it appears to have worked quite well.
> >
> > The hardest part was flattening the tightly rolled Arches. ...
>
>


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On 12/11/2012 11:54 PM, Paul Roark wrote:
> John,
>
> Thanks much.  I was thinking that making my own d-roller was the next
> likely step.
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

Or roll the total Arches roll backwards on a 3" core 48 hours before 
cutting.


-- 
Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

I don't envy you in hunting for dust specks before printing on a piece 
of paper that size. It's so easy to miss a tiny speck and end up with a 
flake, which seldom happens in a really dark patch which would make 
spotting the print easier! (I use a bright desk lamp and brush and 
usually pick them up ... but not always.)

Thanks for sharing this,
Richard

On 12/12/2012 6:38 a.m., Paul wrote:
> I printed my first large panorama on Arches paper that is sold in 
> rolls. In this case it was a 51 inch by 10 yard roll 
> <http://www.utrechtart.com/Paper,Arches.utrecht>. I sliced off 24 
> inches from the roll and printed it in the 7800 with the Eboni-HP 
> inkset <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/7800-EbHP-2013.pdf>.
>
>
> The bottom line is that it appears to have worked quite well.
>
> The hardest part was flattening the tightly rolled Arches. This 
> uncoated watercolor paper (the real thing, not inkjet paper), is 
> internally sized with gelatin. I did not have a d-roller that was 
> suitable, and I'm not sure if the small diameter one I have would be a 
> good idea anyway. The painters have all sorts of recommendations for 
> flattening Arches that also did not appeal.
>
> What I did was buy 2 melamine-coated 12 inch by 5 foot shelves that I 
> put on top of the paper, with lightly dampened old wet darkroom Kodak 
> blotter papers between the shelves and Arches. Humidity softens 
> gelatin and the cellulose. So after sitting in this sandwich for a few 
> hours the paper was quite flat -- sufficient that there were no head 
> strikes on the paper.
>
> At any rate, Arches in large sizes works. It's a lot more work than 
> the usual 22 x 30 "full sheet" sizes I usually use, and there is no 
> "bright white" version of Arches in this size. As usual with Arches, 
> QTR or other rip is essential, and it's not a paper or workflow I'd 
> recommend for most printers.
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
-- 
http://richardsmallfield.com



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