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2012-11-11 by Lew Schwartz
I've left my 4880 idle for too long and now I repeatedly have this message. I've done Auto Nozzle Check and Head Cleaning 5x now. I ->GUESS<- a Power cleaning is the next step, but I've never done one and would appreciate some input from the list. Thanks! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-11-12 by George Pappas
Hello Lew, Power cleaning is the way to go�.3x will totally flush out your lines and print heads. If you have the remote panel software, do it from your computer. Make sure that you have enough ink and capacity in your maintenance tank. Best Regards, George On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@...> wrote: > I've left my 4880 idle for too long and now I repeatedly have this message. > I've done Auto Nozzle Check and Head Cleaning 5x now. I ->GUESS<- a Power > cleaning is the next step, but I've never done one and would appreciate > some input from the list. > Thanks! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-11-12 by Lew Schwartz
Ok, I'll give it a shot. The 1st Head Cleaning reported the maint tank at 18%, now, 4 cycles later it's "nearly full." On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:03 PM, George Pappas <george@...>wrote: > Hello Lew, > > Power cleaning is the way to go�.3x will totally flush out your lines and > print heads. If you have the remote panel software, do it from your > computer. Make sure that you have enough ink and capacity in your > maintenance tank. > > Best Regards, > > George > > > On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@...> wrote: > > > I've left my 4880 idle for too long and now I repeatedly have this > message. > > I've done Auto Nozzle Check and Head Cleaning 5x now. I ->GUESS<- a Power > > cleaning is the next step, but I've never done one and would appreciate > > some input from the list. > > Thanks! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� AND > �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR > THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- -Lew Schwartz [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-11-12 by jimbo
Lew, Just got in from working outside with the horses.. Anyway, the 4xxx series printers do not have pressurized carts.. So they can be a bit temperamental getting back on track.. At this time of year the humidity is down etc so they plug up easier.. So if your doing a nozzle check and this results in doing a few regular cleaning and then on your next nozzle check it seems to be going backwards ...well what's going on is the ink reservoirs aren't full in the head.. The best thing to do when you see that is stop.. and be patient.. I put a moistened paper towel (using simple green) under the head to keep the inks from drying out.. It's kind of a PIA process with this series printer but it works.. Power cleaning will usually get you there also but in my personal experience at the cost of a few hundred bucks in ink and a waste cart. So I do the patience method.. It has never taken me more then 2 days (yup worst case) to get it going but it's never failed not once. I'm in a really humidity impaired area so at times it's a zoo keeping the Epson's going.. One thing that has been mentioned here previously and I'll do it again is to put a silver ware tray that is maybe 2 1/2 wide x 2 high x 15 long..( your favorite kitchen store) .fit it with a sponge and soak that with water and put that in your printer when it's not in use. It honestly makes a difference.. no kidding.. Power cleanings are actually more effective on the 7xxx/9xxx series as they have pressurized carts .. for the little guys (4xxx) diligence and patience seem to be the best.. jimbo ----- Original Message -----
From: "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4880 Nozzles Still CLogged > Ok, I'll give it a shot. The 1st Head Cleaning reported the maint tank at > 18%, now, 4 cycles later it's "nearly full." > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:03 PM, George Pappas > <george@...>wrote: > >> Hello Lew, >> >> Power cleaning is the way to go..3x will totally flush out your lines and >> print heads. If you have the remote panel software, do it from your >> computer. Make sure that you have enough ink and capacity in your >> maintenance tank. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> George >> >> >> On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@...> wrote: >> >> > I've left my 4880 idle for too long and now I repeatedly have this >> message. >> > I've done Auto Nozzle Check and Head Cleaning 5x now. I ->GUESS<- a >> > Power >> > cleaning is the next step, but I've never done one and would appreciate >> > some input from the list. >> > Thanks! >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources >> as >> they are often being updated. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this >> same >> page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to >> keep >> them short. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. >> Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >> membership without notice. >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W >> printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from >> the membership. >> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and >> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner >> and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files >> section: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ >> >> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >> YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND >> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO >> YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >> EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF >> PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE >> "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN >> ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE >> OR >> THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) >> UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >> STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >> YAHOO >> GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >> YAHOO >> GROUP. >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > -- > -Lew Schwartz > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! 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2012-11-12 by jimbo
I forgot to ask where your at geographically.. Lew.. aka humidity and temp... j ----- Original Message -----
From: "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4880 Nozzles Still CLogged > Ok, I'll give it a shot. The 1st Head Cleaning reported the maint tank at > 18%, now, 4 cycles later it's "nearly full." > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:03 PM, George Pappas > <george@...>wrote: > >> Hello Lew, >> >> Power cleaning is the way to go..3x will totally flush out your lines and >> print heads. If you have the remote panel software, do it from your >> computer. Make sure that you have enough ink and capacity in your >> maintenance tank. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> George >> >> >> On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@...> wrote: >> >> > I've left my 4880 idle for too long and now I repeatedly have this >> message. >> > I've done Auto Nozzle Check and Head Cleaning 5x now. I ->GUESS<- a >> > Power >> > cleaning is the next step, but I've never done one and would appreciate >> > some input from the list. >> > Thanks! >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources >> as >> they are often being updated. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this >> same >> page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to >> keep >> them short. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. >> Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >> membership without notice. >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W >> printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from >> the membership. >> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and >> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner >> and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files >> section: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ >> >> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >> YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND >> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO >> YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >> EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF >> PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE >> "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN >> ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE >> OR >> THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) >> UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >> STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >> YAHOO >> GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >> YAHOO >> GROUP. >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > -- > -Lew Schwartz > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5885 - Release Date: 11/09/12 >
2012-11-12 by Lew Schwartz
Thanks Jimbo. I can see that I'm not out of the woods yet. I live in the New York, but we've already had the steam heat up .... it dries out everything very fast. I have 2 5gal buckets of water in my 9x12' work room, with old towels wicking the moisture out from mid Nov - March (our heating season). So, I did have that going backwards thing happen. The magenta rectangle looked fine for a while and then crapped out. Other colors followed suit. The power clean seems to have worked, but now I have a weird ... what looks like solarization thing going on... but I've been playing a lot with split toning & need to get back to the drawing board. On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:21 PM, jimbo <mrjimbo@...> wrote: > ** > > > Lew, > Just got in from working outside with the horses.. > Anyway, the 4xxx series printers do not have pressurized carts.. So they > can > be a bit temperamental getting back on track.. At this time of year the > humidity is down etc so they plug up easier.. So if your doing a nozzle > check and this results in doing a few regular cleaning and then on your > next > nozzle check it seems to be going backwards ...well what's going on is the > ink reservoirs aren't full in the head.. The best thing to do when you see > that is stop.. and be patient.. I put a moistened paper towel (using > simple > green) under the head to keep the inks from drying out.. It's kind of a > PIA > process with this series printer but it works.. Power cleaning will > usually > get you there also but in my personal experience at the cost of a few > hundred bucks in ink and a waste cart. So I do the patience method.. It > has > never taken me more then 2 days (yup worst case) to get it going but it's > never failed not once. I'm in a really humidity impaired area so at times > it's a zoo keeping the Epson's going.. One thing that has been mentioned > here previously and I'll do it again is to put a silver ware tray that is > maybe 2 1/2 wide x 2 high x 15 long..( your favorite kitchen store) .fit > it > with a sponge and soak that with water and put that in your printer when > it's not in use. It honestly makes a difference.. no kidding.. Power > cleanings are actually more effective on the 7xxx/9xxx series as they have > pressurized carts .. for the little guys (4xxx) diligence and patience > seem > to be the best.. > > jimbo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4880 Nozzles Still CLogged > > > Ok, I'll give it a shot. The 1st Head Cleaning reported the maint tank at > > 18%, now, 4 cycles later it's "nearly full." > > > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:03 PM, George Pappas > > <george@...>wrote: > > > >> Hello Lew, > >> > >> Power cleaning is the way to go..3x will totally flush out your lines > and > > >> print heads. If you have the remote panel software, do it from your > >> computer. Make sure that you have enough ink and capacity in your > >> maintenance tank. > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> George > >> > >> > >> On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@...> wrote: > >> > >> > I've left my 4880 idle for too long and now I repeatedly have this > >> message. > >> > I've done Auto Nozzle Check and Head Cleaning 5x now. I ->GUESS<- a > >> > Power > >> > cleaning is the next step, but I've never done one and would > appreciate > >> > some input from the list. > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources > >> as > >> they are often being updated. > >> > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >> > >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > >> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this > >> same > >> page. > >> > >> Please follow these basic guidelines: > >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > >> keep > >> them short. > >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > >> Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > >> membership without notice. > >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > >> printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed > from > >> the membership. > >> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > >> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > >> and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > >> section: > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >> > >> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > >> YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > >> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > >> YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > >> EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > >> PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > >> "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > >> ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE > USE > >> OR > >> THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > >> UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; > (iii) > >> STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > >> YAHOO > >> GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > >> YAHOO > >> GROUP. > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > -Lew Schwartz > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources > as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this > same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed > from > > the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > > section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; > (iii) > > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5885 - Release Date: 11/09/12 > > > > > -- -Lew Schwartz [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]