Digital BW, The Print

Hi all.
I'm currently printing with a 1400 loaded with UT-14 inks.  
Experimenting I found that when printing in  luster surfaces like the  
Barytas papers (Ilford and Canson) QTR gives me the best result, while  
on mate papers like Canos Infinity Rag, Paul's curves gives me better  
contrast and detail.
So said, I also found that using QTR-RGB-Matte-Paper as printer  
profile in PS printing dialog gives me a warmer output, while using  
Adobe RGB as printer profile gives a colder tone.
Question is, is there a estabilished collection of printer profiles  
wich will give previsible results with Paul`s curves?
Best, André

Andre Vallejo da Silva <vallejodasilva@...> wrote:

> I'm currently printing with a 1400 loaded with UT-14 inks.  
> Experimenting I found that when printing in  luster surfaces like the  
> Barytas papers (Ilford and Canson) QTR gives me the best result,

QTR allows better control of the dmax.  With the Epson driver we're stuck with what Epson decided was the optimum -- for its papers.

> while on mate papers like Canos Infinity Rag, Paul's curves 
> gives me better contrast and detail.

> ...
> Question is, is there a estabilished collection of printer profiles  
> wich will give previsible results with Paul`s curves?

Most of the ICCs in the UT14 profiles zip file have the Lab A & B information in them. (The Premier Art Smooth BW does not, for some unknown reason.)  With matte papers the ICCs can be used in soft proofing in Photoshop.  

(View > Proof Setup > Custom. In the Device to Simulate load the UT14 ICC.  I use Perceptual, black point compensation there.)

The ICCs for glossy papers don't work well in soft proofing.

Hope this is of some help.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks Paul, I'll be trying your tip (as usually!)
André

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <roark.paul@...> wrote:

> 
> Most of the ICCs in the UT14 profiles zip file have the Lab A & B information in them. (The Premier Art Smooth BW does not, for some unknown reason.)  With matte papers the ICCs can be used in soft proofing in Photoshop.  
> 
> (View > Proof Setup > Custom. In the Device to Simulate load the UT14 ICC.  I use Perceptual, black point compensation there.)
> 
> The ICCs for glossy papers don't work well in soft proofing.
> 
> Hope this is of some help.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Hello Paul..

I've been using your ".ACVuves settup in my UT14 printer ithout difficulty.

However, I CANNOT seem to get your ".ICC" ptofiles for this printer to show up  in PS when I go to print..They DO SHOW as INSTALLED onmy Vista system along with all of my Color ICC's, but do NOT show up as available when I wish to apply one of these prior to printing. (these are all downloaded from your zip folder in your 2008 UT 14 intro and tutorial)

I'm using no color management, and .ICM on my settup....Pls I could use some advice here.

This is driving me NUTS!

THX in advance!

Eddie

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: pr_roark 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 11:13 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Printing with Pauls's curves


    
  Andre Vallejo da Silva <vallejodasilva@...> wrote:

  > I'm currently printing with a 1400 loaded with UT-14 inks. 
  > Experimenting I found that when printing in luster surfaces like the 
  > Barytas papers (Ilford and Canson) QTR gives me the best result,

  QTR allows better control of the dmax. With the Epson driver we're stuck with what Epson decided was the optimum -- for its papers.

  > while on mate papers like Canos Infinity Rag, Paul's curves 
  > gives me better contrast and detail.

  > ...
  > Question is, is there a estabilished collection of printer profiles 
  > wich will give previsible results with Paul`s curves?

  Most of the ICCs in the UT14 profiles zip file have the Lab A & B information in them. (The Premier Art Smooth BW does not, for some unknown reason.) With matte papers the ICCs can be used in soft proofing in Photoshop. 

  (View > Proof Setup > Custom. In the Device to Simulate load the UT14 ICC. I use Perceptual, black point compensation there.)

  The ICCs for glossy papers don't work well in soft proofing.

  Hope this is of some help.

  Paul
  www.PaulRoark.com 



  

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