Digital BW, The Print

Roy,

Yes, it's sounds really like a pain.
Suppose it's easier to make your own mix if you buy all the ink in  
bottles and can do your trials in smaller quantities. I don't have to  
buy any carts I have a lot of them.
The question now is where do you get the sepia in bottles?
Which paper would you recommend to achive a warm print if you use the  
neutral ink?

Thanks,
Hans



9 aug 2006 kl. 01.49 skrev Roy Harrington:

> Bjorn,
>
> The only way to customize the tone you want is to mix the inks. The  
> new Sepia
> Inks are pretty warm. You can use all the standard QTR software and  
> curves if
> you mix Neutral K6 inks and Sepia K6 inks. For instance, a little  
> warm might be
> 85% Neutral + 15% Sepia. You have to mix each of the gray inks.  
> There is only
> one black ink so that need not be mixed. I don't think you'll get  
> decent results
> but just putting in some neutral carts and some sepia carts since  
> the densities
> are all different -- especially on the 7000. On a newer printer  
> with smaller drop
> sizes and 7 inks I might be tempted to try 3 of each color but  
> you'd need completely
> different profiles.
>
> The trouble with both of these ideas is that its pretty much just  
> trial and error
> until you get the tone you want. If you want to go this route I'd  
> buy the Neutral
> carts for the 7000 and the 4oz bottles of Sepia. WIth the syringe  
> suck out some
> neutral ink and replace it with some same density sepia ink. Do  
> this for each
> gray cart. Do about 5% at a time and work up to the warmth you  
> like. After
> mixing in more ink you can withdraw a little to spread on paper  
> with a Q-tip.
>
> All in all its a bit of a pain but this way you can get exactly  
> what you like.
> Do as much of this as possible before loading the carts in the  
> printer because its
> a lot more difficult to change once the ink is in printer. Keep  
> good notes so you
> can do the same thing again for the next batch of ink.
>
> Roy
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bjornaagedk"
> <reklamefoto@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I have an Epson 7000 standing unused (and tubes filled with  
> cleaning fluid) for a
> few
> > months and have thought about loading it with Piezography K6.
> > The only thing is I like a slightly warmer tone than "neutral",  
> something between
> neutral
> > and PiezoTone Warm Neutral.
> > Can you or someone else give me some advices on which inks to  
> load, which
> software to
> > use and which paper gives the best print?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Bjorn
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> <deanwork2003@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been using the K6 in a 7000 for about 6 months and there  
> is no
> > > clogging and absulutely no ink seperation problems. They went  
> back to
> > > the woodshed and resolved those issues. I can't speak more  
> highly of
> > > this inkset. It seems the product of a decade of research. It  
> is the
> > > best in my opinion as long as you don't need glossy media.
> > >
> > > Now with all rag paper (and especially non-coated exotic rice  
> papers
> > > and such) your nozzles on Epson piezo machines can and do  
> occasionally
> > > get clogged. This is due not to the inks but to the fibers of the
> > > media dislodging and accumulating in the head nozzles. If you  
> brush
> > > off each sheet of this kind of paper ( I use a drafting brush  
> some use
> > > cotton gloves, etc) you will be in pretty good shape. 100% cotton
> > > papers contain a lot of loose cotton dust, and that is just a  
> reality.
> > > But as far as the Piezo Tone K6/K7 inks go, they are FAR  
> superior to
> > > Ultrachome in the realm of having to do constant nozzle checks and
> > > head cleanings. I clean my 9600 with UC 10 times more than my K6
> > > machine when using rag media.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Hans & Chia
> > > <chiahans@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Roy,
> > > >
> > > > Nice to know that you don't have to flush the printer.
> > > > As I would like to go a little bit warmer (not split tone)  
> than "dead
> > > > neutral" I thought it might be possible to change some of the  
> carts.
> > > > The question is which to switch and I suppose I have to do a new
> > > > linearization as well.
> > > > Or can you use QTR with the supplied profiles for this purpose?
> > > > Have you heard anything about clogging or ink separation  
> problems
> > > > with K6/7 inks?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Hans
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 6 aug 2006 kl. 16.50 skrev Roy Harrington:
> > > >
> > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Hans &  
> Chia
> > > > > <chiahans@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've decided to load our Stylus Pro 7500 with Piezo K6  
> and buy it in
> > > > > > bottles.
> > > > > > However, when looking at the Inkjet Mall site I'm getting  
> a bit
> > > > > > confused.
> > > > > > I can't find any information which shade to exlude from  
> the K7 inks.
> > > > > > K2, K4 or K7 any suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we need to flush the printer after only have used MIS  
> UT 1 inks?
> > > > > > Any guess when the sepia ink comes in bottles?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hans
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hans,
> > > > >
> > > > > You should leave out the lightest ink K7. It's also  
> important which
> > > > > ink goes
> > > > > in which slot (at least if you plan on using QTR with the  
> supplied
> > > > > profiles).
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd recommend just the Initial Ink Load of the new inks, not
> > > > > flushing the printer
> > > > > with cleaning ink. If you switch to sepia you probably have  
> to do
> > > > > this again.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd have to ask inkjetmall when the sepia ink will be in  
> bottles.
> > > > > They have the
> > > > > inks so it should be just a packaging issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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