Digital BW, The Print

The fact is that the wheels have been coming off at Yahoo for some time and 
now that Verizon bought them, there's a good chance that features like 
groups might not continue unchanged, or maybe at all. Aside from Yahoo's 
shares in Alibaba, Verizon is only interested in combining their AOL and 
Yahoo members so they can be data mined and marketed to advertisers, and 
groups barely play a part in that.

The transition to groups.io has been seamless and a positive step where I've 
seen it take place. So why not do it? I also have a serious issue with 
Verizon politically because they've been suing to end net neutrality to 
ultimately monopolize the net. I don't like supporting large corporations 
that want to own the internet and become Big Brother to us all.



-----Original Message----- 
From: 'Jim Bechtel' mrjimbo2@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:56 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Can I post a printer for sale on the group?

If I may.. please..  It's a bit bigger than what's on the surface.. As a
user you only see what you see but what you can't see is what goes on in the
background. I'm not trying to knock Yahoo.. so that is not what it's about
ok?  I have test groups set up now on both Google and Groups.io.. So I get
to see what is possible.. What I can tell you is that real support or
problem solving on Yahoo is a total joke when requested by either users or
by group administrators..  It's actually funny ..except that it's got to be
a brutal reality for those that try to run or manage the group.



So what I'm trying to say is if you're a Yahoo fan then maybe step up and do
the work. How hard are you willing to do that for free. Mark has worked his
ass off for us.. plus a few I'm sure that I don't know who they are..



What I'm struggling with is actually quite simple. Why would anyone promote
a continuance of a situation that is potentially marginal and has limited
abilities to really control the deliverable.. RU that naive..?  Do you not
care about the people that sponsor and work at this for free to help us
continue our interactions and sharing.. So frankly I suggest step up or
humble up..



I'm not trying in any way to promote a bail out of Yahoo .Simply put what I
am suggesting is that we need to listen to those that run our groups and try
to make it work for them.. Plus they know 5X more than we do about what it
really takes.. They are the ones that stepped up to serve us.. We need to
respect and honor that.. So I think we need to listen.. and maybe maybe step
up a tad as I'm sure they would appreciate the help..



jimbo

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Can I post a printer for sale on the group?





I will chime in. I was the one who setup the EpsonWideFormat Group with
groups.io



Yes, everything gets transferred over by groups.io . It takes a few days and
you can keep this group going until complete. It is certainly a better
choice over Yahoo Groups, everyone is happy with it.



Mark
Co-moderator EpsonWideFormat



On Oct 13, 2016, at 1:27 PM, paulmwhiting@...
[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]
<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





@donbga: I've looked at  <http://group.io/> group.io and I agree with you. I
found it to have a more user-friendly interface. The main concern about
leaving Yahoo is that there has to be some way of preserving the many
excellent posts here.  <http://groups.io/> groups.io has a wide format group
that apparently was able to save all their valuable tips however.

Paul




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