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Re: [Digital BW] Eboni6, UT3d, Cone, or which route to take?

2013-07-26 by luxlebis

Oh, thank you that looks interesting


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "J.F. Felinik" <jf@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> If you need inexpensive carts for the 1400, I've bought a cpl of packages
> of these (to have swaps ready). It's the same as you buy from MIS, but in
> EU and still a good price:
> 
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Refillable-Empty-Cartridges-for-Epson-Stylus-Photo-1400-Stylus-P50-E7-/321145551632?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_Printing_PrinterInkCatridges_JN&hash=item4ac5c43b10
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> /JF
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 2013/7/26 luxlebis <luxlebis@...>
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Thank you Paul,
> > I will first get the Printer and the empty cards from farbenwerk.com.
> > Ithink I start with UT 3d first cause I have it here. I'm then going to
> > try to
> > mix my own Carbon 6. This looks economical. Yesterday I compared my first
> > prints from the sigma with darkroom prints from a 6x7 APX 25 and I think
> > they are
> > sharper and have nearly the same detail. Looks great.
> > Marcus
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark
> > <roark.paul@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Marcus ... <luxlebis@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ... which would be the best route for me to go with an Epson r1430
> > > > converted to a black and white only printer. [?] ...
> > > >
> > > There is not one size fits all. A very flexible inkset like the UT3D or
> > > the UT14 can help identify what types of papers and what print tones/hues
> > > you like best. Most then focus on one thing. Once you determine your
> > > preferences, then having a system that focuses more on that particular
> > > print type makes sense.
> > >
> > > ...
> > > > I´m already using the UT3d inkset in an r285 (r290 in US I think,I´m
> > from
> >
> > > > Germany). I get very good results.
> > > >
> > > ... I use the Sigma dp2 merrill for my b&w photography ... I think I can
> > > > nearly get a r1430 ...
> > > >
> > > Those files are amazing. Going to a very sharp 1430 is a good idea.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I read online about K7 vs. Eboni 6. Has eboni 6 really the 6 different
> > > > dilution advantage like the cone inks (concerning resolution)?
> > > >
> > > Yes. In both cases the printer and paper are the limiting factors, not
> > the
> > > inks. The Eboni-6 has the longevity advantage over all but the Cone
> > > Carbon Sepia, which is essentially equal to Eboni due to being 100%
> > carbon.
> > >
> > > In terms of apparent sharpness and dynamic range, dyes on metallic paper
> > > set the benchmark, in my view. But they are not in the same archival
> > > league as 100% carbon.
> > >
> > >
> > > > In Germany there is an inksupplier called farbenwerk.com from where I
> > got
> > > > my UT3d set some years ago. They sell a 100% carbon matte set to
> > > > (carbonprint museum), does anybody know if that is eboni6 ?
> > > >
> > > I don't know but will try to find out.
> > >
> > >
> > > > With the UT3d inkset I have the opportunity to switch between matte and
> > > > glossy printing. I get very good prints on the Ilford mono FB paper.
> > But
> > > > for the 1430 I think I will go for a matte set.
> > > >
> > > When displayed behind glass, the differences between glossy and matte
> > tend
> > > to be minimal. When hand held and not glazed, most probably think the
> > > glossy prints are sharper and have higher dynamic range. This is largely
> > > about display conditions and reflections. So, the target display setting
> > > matters.
> > >
> > > As a practical matter, if you buy a set of carts first, you can see if
> > you
> > > like the inkset before investing too much money into it. The 1400/1430 is
> > > a very flexible platform.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I read about Paul´s way to mix a matte set, but have problems to get
> > all
> >
> > > > the ingredients here in Germany. Has anybody done that in
> > Germany/Europe
> > > > and can give me advice?
> > > >
> > > There are some there. My recollection is that some have used Photo Flo
> > 600
> > > instead of 200, and it works in the generic base (see
> > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf for formulas). I think
> > > most have still purchased the Edwal LFN from B&H in New York. It comes in
> > > a 4 oz. size.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >  
> >
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