how many pads max. ???
2001-01-17 by Chan Hansun
hi i'm about to buy dtxpress, but i want to know how many pads can i attach to the module at a time if i already added a dual zone pad (the yamaha TS80 sth) ??
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how many pads max. ???
Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???
2001-01-17 by lovesign@talk21.com
8 mono trigger pads & 1 Stereo trigger pad plus hi hat pedal on dedicated input. Check out www.welcome.to/DTXpressions for more info. Lovesign > hi i'm about to buy dtxpress, but i want to know how many pads can i >attach to the module at a time if i already added a dual zone pad >(the yamaha TS80 sth) ?? > > >Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > >Shortcut URL to this page: > <a Target='_new' Href='http://www.talk21.com/redirect.html?http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress'>http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress</a> -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com
Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???
2001-01-18 by Dan Mowczan
Actually, I was under the impression that inputs 1-8 could take the rubberized Yamaha and Roland dual trigger pads, meaning, anything with a Piezo and a Force Sensing Resistor input on the rim (which includes the PCY80S cymbal). So, simply replace your existing snare in port one with a TP80S dual zone and you'll have the capability you need to run it without using the Stereo input. In the voice parameter source edit, pad1, rim1, pad2, rim2, etc. exist, so I assume these are all individual assignable to sounds. This includes rimOpen and rimCls inputs on the high hat pad based on pedal position. However, since I have no dual zone pads and haven't found it in the manual, I don't know how to program a FSR rim to choke a cymbal. The Stereo-input 9&10 is designed for a dual-piezo, like a mesh head from the DTXtreme or Roland V-Drums or similar Pintech. Or, two seperate single trigger pads with a Y cord. I have heard, however, that even if you were to replace all of the pads on the system with dual-trigger rubber pads with the intention of using cymbal chokes, you'd be unhappy, since if Cymbal chokes are enabled, all rim-hits on drum pads have no variable volumes. I really can't see why this is required, as I thought all trigger configurations were unique. Can anyone verify this? -Dan -- Dan Mowczan, pinball@...
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> From: "Chan Hansun" <hansun@...> > Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:30:25 -0000 > To: DTXpress@egroups.com > Subject: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ??? > > hi i'm about to buy dtxpress, but i want to know how many pads can i > attach to the module at a time if i already added a dual zone pad > (the yamaha TS80 sth) ?? > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress >
Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???
2001-01-18 by Brandon Paluzzi
Actually, just one comment-- the dual zone tom+snare pads on the DTXtreme are piezo/fsr, not dual piezo. BP On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Dan Mowczan wrote: > Actually, I was under the impression that inputs 1-8 could take the > rubberized Yamaha and Roland dual trigger pads, meaning, anything with a > Piezo and a Force Sensing Resistor input on the rim (which includes the > PCY80S cymbal). So, simply replace your existing snare in port one with a > TP80S dual zone and you'll have the capability you need to run it without > using the Stereo input. > > In the voice parameter source edit, pad1, rim1, pad2, rim2, etc. exist, so I > assume these are all individual assignable to sounds. This includes rimOpen > and rimCls inputs on the high hat pad based on pedal position. However, > since I have no dual zone pads and haven't found it in the manual, I don't > know how to program a FSR rim to choke a cymbal. > > The Stereo-input 9&10 is designed for a dual-piezo, like a mesh head from > the DTXtreme or Roland V-Drums or similar Pintech. Or, two seperate single > trigger pads with a Y cord. > > I have heard, however, that even if you were to replace all of the pads on > the system with dual-trigger rubber pads with the intention of using cymbal > chokes, you'd be unhappy, since if Cymbal chokes are enabled, all rim-hits > on drum pads have no variable volumes. I really can't see why this is > required, as I thought all trigger configurations were unique. Can anyone > verify this? > > -Dan > > > > -- > Dan Mowczan, pinball@... > > > From: "Chan Hansun" <hansun@...> > > Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com > > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:30:25 -0000 > > To: DTXpress@egroups.com > > Subject: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ??? > > > > hi i'm about to buy dtxpress, but i want to know how many pads can i > > attach to the module at a time if i already added a dual zone pad > > (the yamaha TS80 sth) ?? > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bp33@... http://www.bpaluzzi.net Carnegie Mellon University Kiltie Band Drumline Instructor
Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???
2001-01-18 by Scott Dunnington
I have 10 pads connected: The 8 OEM singles, plus a
TP80S for the snare & a PCY80S for an extra cymbal.
I run a single pad & cymbal into 9/10 thru a
y-connector. I have obtained 100% of my kit thru Ebay
(rockbottommusic.com) or Yahoo Auctions.
I'm not too happy with the PCY80S, tho. I was looking
for a ride/bell ride from it, but the rim needs to be hit pretty hard & I
have trouble with 16th's on it. I wasn't really interested in the
choke. The TP80S rim also has to be hit hard, but it's not so bad at
the right angle & I'm not trying for speed. For sidestick I dial
down the volume.
I do like the versatility of the extra pads - I assign
the 4th tom pad to cowbell or floor tom, for 4 kits total (rim/ss,
tom/cb).
Has anyone seen the same problems with the rim-switch
pads? Also, how are other folks arranging the snare pad to allow rim
hits? I am hitting the far rim, with the stick going between the 1 & 2
toms.
Scott in Georgia
Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???
2001-01-18 by pdk
Scott, Like i said in another post, i gave up using the PCY80s for a ride and use a TP80s for that, which feels a lot more natural, plus this gave me two PCY80s crashes, which they're good at. I too naturally took to hitting the far rim for rimshots on my TP80s snare, though my snare is far enough back that I don't need to worry about contacting the toms. However, I have this questionable credo that my electrokit should attempt to mirror my old acoustic setup as much as possible -- to make it easy to switch back and forth. That includes positioning the hi-hat peddle under the hat pad (relatively) etc. even though when you think about it, there's no reason to even play cross-handed, since the hat pad could be anywhere. Anyway, I raised the snare about an inch and forced myself to hit the near edge by my left knee since that's how I used to do it on my Westburys. I think it was a good call. ======================================================================== pete
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From: "Scott Dunnington" <stdunnington@...> Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:57:49 -0500 To: <DTXpress@egroups.com> Subject: Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ??? I have 10 pads connected: The 8 OEM singles, plus a TP80S for the snare & a PCY80S for an extra cymbal. I run a single pad & cymbal into 9/10 thru a y-connector. I have obtained 100% of my kit thru Ebay (rockbottommusic.com) or Yahoo Auctions. I'm not too happy with the PCY80S, tho. I was looking for a ride/bell ride from it, but the rim needs to be hit pretty hard & I have trouble with 16th's on it. I wasn't really interested in the choke. The TP80S rim also has to be hit hard, but it's not so bad at the right angle & I'm not trying for speed. For sidestick I dial down the volume. I do like the versatility of the extra pads - I assign the 4th tom pad to cowbell or floor tom, for 4 kits total (rim/ss, tom/cb). Has anyone seen the same problems with the rim-switch pads? Also, how are other folks arranging the snare pad to allow rim hits? I am hitting the far rim, with the stick going between the 1 & 2 toms. Scott in Georgia
Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???
2001-01-18 by pdk
Re the rim volumes. If a cymbal choke is enabled, yes the rim voice is fixed full volume, but on that input only -- not the entire kit. The other rims function normally, at least on my kit with the DTXv2 brain. Minor point. To my knowledge the DTxtreme is not a mesh head kit. It ships with real heads -- something they actually brag about in the literature. However, the last time I was in my local drum shop the manager was seen changing the snare head to a mesh one, and cursing Yamaha for not shipping it like that in the first place. ======================================================================== pete
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> From: Brandon Paluzzi <bp33@...> > Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:39:57 -0500 (EST) > To: DTXpress@egroups.com > Subject: Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ??? > > > Actually, just one comment-- the dual zone tom+snare pads on the DTXtreme > are piezo/fsr, not dual piezo. > > BP > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Dan Mowczan wrote: > >> Actually, I was under the impression that inputs 1-8 could take the >> rubberized Yamaha and Roland dual trigger pads, meaning, anything with a >> Piezo and a Force Sensing Resistor input on the rim (which includes the >> PCY80S cymbal). So, simply replace your existing snare in port one with a >> TP80S dual zone and you'll have the capability you need to run it without >> using the Stereo input. >> >> In the voice parameter source edit, pad1, rim1, pad2, rim2, etc. exist, so I >> assume these are all individual assignable to sounds. This includes rimOpen >> and rimCls inputs on the high hat pad based on pedal position. However, >> since I have no dual zone pads and haven't found it in the manual, I don't >> know how to program a FSR rim to choke a cymbal. >> >> The Stereo-input 9&10 is designed for a dual-piezo, like a mesh head from >> the DTXtreme or Roland V-Drums or similar Pintech. Or, two separate single >> trigger pads with a Y cord. >> >> I have heard, however, that even if you were to replace all of the pads on >> the system with dual-trigger rubber pads with the intention of using cymbal >> chokes, you'd be unhappy, since if Cymbal chokes are enabled, all rim-hits >> on drum pads have no variable volumes. I really can't see why this is >> required, as I thought all trigger configurations were unique. Can anyone >> verify this? >> >> -Dan >> >> >> >> -- >> Dan Mowczan, pinball@... >> >>> From: "Chan Hansun" <hansun@...> >>> Reply-To: DTXpress@egroups.com >>> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:30:25 -0000 >>> To: DTXpress@egroups.com >>> Subject: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ??? >>> >>> hi i'm about to buy dtxpress, but i want to know how many pads can i >>> attach to the module at a time if i already added a dual zone pad >>> (the yamaha TS80 sth) ?? >>> >>> >>> Community email addresses: >>> Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com >>> Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com >>> Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com >>> List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com >>> >>> Shortcut URL to this page: >>> http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress >>> >> >> >> Community email addresses: >> Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com >> Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com >> Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com >> List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com >> >> Shortcut URL to this page: >> http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > bp33@... http://www.bpaluzzi.net > > Carnegie Mellon University > Kiltie Band Drumline Instructor > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > >
RE: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???
2001-01-21 by Day, Ian
Hi
Guys,
I have
just purchased a TP80S and installed it with a stereo cable. The far end of the
rim does not seem to work.
If you
imagine the pad to be in four quarters, three work but not the fourth. What am I
doing wrong ?
I used
the spare pad through the 9/10 port using a 'Y' cable adapter. Would like to
achieve the same as Scott.
However when I hit each pad, it triggers the same instrument, whichever
one I set.
I
think that the Y cable may be wired incorrectly or have I missed
something ?
Thanks
for your help ...
Ian.
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From: Scott Dunnington [mailto:stdunnington@...]
Sent: 18 January 2001 04:58
To: DTXpress@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [DTXpress] how many pads max. ???I have 10 pads connected: The 8 OEM singles, plus a TP80S for the snare & a PCY80S for an extra cymbal.I run a single pad & cymbal into 9/10 thru a y-connector. I have obtained 100% of my kit thru Ebay (rockbottommusic.com) or Yahoo Auctions.I'm not too happy with the PCY80S, tho. I was looking for a ride/bell ride from it, but the rim needs to be hit pretty hard & I have trouble with 16th's on it. I wasn't really interested in the choke. The TP80S rim also has to be hit hard, but it's not so bad at the right angle & I'm not trying for speed. For sidestick I dial down the volume.I do like the versatility of the extra pads - I assign the 4th tom pad to cowbell or floor tom, for 4 kits total (rim/ss, tom/cb).Has anyone seen the same problems with the rim-switch pads? Also, how are other folks arranging the snare pad to allow rim hits? I am hitting the far rim, with the stick going between the 1 & 2 toms.Scott in Georgia
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