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Re: Bass drum triggers by closing the Hi Hat

2004-08-17 by b_marc

I just grounded my kick pedal with the ground from the plug at it 
works :) I even can play barefoot again.

Thanks to all who tried to help Ilearned a lot about the sttings.

Marc

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b_marc" <b_marc@y...> wrote:
> Tried all and the only thing which helps is putting my best 
isolating
> shoos on, then it stops ??!!?? The longer I play the warmer and 
> sweetier I get and then it comes back, even with my winter shoes.
> Did anybody ever try grounding the dtxpress or the rack to avoid 
this?
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> 
wrote:
> >  If this has already been address, ignore.
> > 
> > If there were a stray ground pathway being generated, then simply 
> > picking up the hihat pedal and touching the metal frame of the 
KP65 
> > could trigger the KP65. Also, can you try to simply put a piece 
of 
> > rubber on the bottom and top of the HH65 to "electrically" 
isolate 
> it 
> > from everything, including you, to see if that eliminates the 
> > problem. If it does then you may have a loose wire and surgery 
> maybe 
> > required.
> > 
> > As far as sensitivity, if you take you finger and tap the flat 
part 
> > of the KP65 frame that sits on the floor with the two spurs in 
it, 
> > does the Piezo trigger. If it does, reduce the sensitivity down 
> until 
> > it no longer triggers. 
> > 
> > Also, another thought:
> > 
> > Check to see if the voice for the Footclose has only one voice 
> > assigned and not two. If a cross-velocity setting between voice 1 
> and 
> > voice 2 for the footclose were setup so that "light" pressure on 
> the 
> > HH65 would trigger voice 1 (hi-hat close sound) and a "heavy" 
> > pressure would trigger voice 2, then this would make sense, that 
> > sometimes it triggers/sometimes it does not.
> > 
> > If you goto the voice edit mode (and learn mode is on), press 
down 
> on 
> > the hihat pedal to select:
> > 
> > KIT IN= footCl V=1
> > =H/015 K13 Clse     [This line will vary based on what you have 
> setup]
> > 
> > Tab up to select V=1 using the <-Sel-> button and then change to 
> V=2 
> > using the <Val +> button. The default is:
> > 
> > =K/000 NoAssign
> > 
> > If you accidentally changed this to K/001 or any other voice 
> number, 
> > then the bass drum sound could be triggered when pressing down on 
> the 
> > Hihat pedal.
> > 
> > Hang in there, we get through this.
> > 
> > OGD
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b_marc" <b_marc@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b_marc" <b_marc@y...> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tried both solutions without success, but... realized now
> > > > > that when I play bare foot it got worth. So is it possible 
> that 
> > > the 
> > > > > triggers and/or my kit gets bad grounding over my body??????
> > > > 
> > > > Here's another possibility: When you're not actually playing 
> the 
> > > > kick, do you keep the pedal close to or on the pad? If you 
do, 
> it 
> > > > might just trigger at the slightest instigation, and you 
might 
> be 
> > > > more apt to twitch the kick foot when you're stomping on the 
hi 
> > > hat. 
> > > > It doesn't take much. Try consciously keeping your beater 
away 
> > from 
> > > > the pad when not in use. 
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I can't buy the electrical 
> > charge 
> > > > theory. Another experiment? If you unplug the kick and stomp 
on 
> > the 
> > > > hi hat, do you still get random kicks? If so, it's out of our 
> > > hands. 
> > > > If not, we should be able to locate the problem, even if it 
> takes 
> > a 
> > > > while.
> > > 
> > > OK, Here is what I did:
> > > 1- I only slightly touched the Kick's pedal with the beater 
loose 
> > > (far away from the trigger). This still triggers the kick when 
> > > closing the Hi Hat.
> > > 2- Ths same thing like 1 but not touching the pedal with my 
foot. 
> > > This time the kick was not triggered when closing the Hi Hat.
> > > 3- Unplugged the Kick's cable and naturally the kick was not 
> > > triggered anymore.
> > > 
> > > Marc

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