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Re: Bass drum triggers by closing the Hi Hat

2004-08-17 by b_marc

Tried all and the only thing which helps is putting my best isolating
shoos on, then it stops ??!!?? The longer I play the warmer and 
sweetier I get and then it comes back, even with my winter shoes.
Did anybody ever try grounding the dtxpress or the rack to avoid this?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
>  If this has already been address, ignore.
> 
> If there were a stray ground pathway being generated, then simply 
> picking up the hihat pedal and touching the metal frame of the KP65 
> could trigger the KP65. Also, can you try to simply put a piece of 
> rubber on the bottom and top of the HH65 to "electrically" isolate 
it 
> from everything, including you, to see if that eliminates the 
> problem. If it does then you may have a loose wire and surgery 
maybe 
> required.
> 
> As far as sensitivity, if you take you finger and tap the flat part 
> of the KP65 frame that sits on the floor with the two spurs in it, 
> does the Piezo trigger. If it does, reduce the sensitivity down 
until 
> it no longer triggers. 
> 
> Also, another thought:
> 
> Check to see if the voice for the Footclose has only one voice 
> assigned and not two. If a cross-velocity setting between voice 1 
and 
> voice 2 for the footclose were setup so that "light" pressure on 
the 
> HH65 would trigger voice 1 (hi-hat close sound) and a "heavy" 
> pressure would trigger voice 2, then this would make sense, that 
> sometimes it triggers/sometimes it does not.
> 
> If you goto the voice edit mode (and learn mode is on), press down 
on 
> the hihat pedal to select:
> 
> KIT IN= footCl V=1
> =H/015 K13 Clse     [This line will vary based on what you have 
setup]
> 
> Tab up to select V=1 using the <-Sel-> button and then change to 
V=2 
> using the <Val +> button. The default is:
> 
> =K/000 NoAssign
> 
> If you accidentally changed this to K/001 or any other voice 
number, 
> then the bass drum sound could be triggered when pressing down on 
the 
> Hihat pedal.
> 
> Hang in there, we get through this.
> 
> OGD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b_marc" <b_marc@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b_marc" <b_marc@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Tried both solutions without success, but... realized now
> > > > that when I play bare foot it got worth. So is it possible 
that 
> > the 
> > > > triggers and/or my kit gets bad grounding over my body??????
> > > 
> > > Here's another possibility: When you're not actually playing 
the 
> > > kick, do you keep the pedal close to or on the pad? If you do, 
it 
> > > might just trigger at the slightest instigation, and you might 
be 
> > > more apt to twitch the kick foot when you're stomping on the hi 
> > hat. 
> > > It doesn't take much. Try consciously keeping your beater away 
> from 
> > > the pad when not in use. 
> > > 
> > > Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I can't buy the electrical 
> charge 
> > > theory. Another experiment? If you unplug the kick and stomp on 
> the 
> > > hi hat, do you still get random kicks? If so, it's out of our 
> > hands. 
> > > If not, we should be able to locate the problem, even if it 
takes 
> a 
> > > while.
> > 
> > OK, Here is what I did:
> > 1- I only slightly touched the Kick's pedal with the beater loose 
> > (far away from the trigger). This still triggers the kick when 
> > closing the Hi Hat.
> > 2- Ths same thing like 1 but not touching the pedal with my foot. 
> > This time the kick was not triggered when closing the Hi Hat.
> > 3- Unplugged the Kick's cable and naturally the kick was not 
> > triggered anymore.
> > 
> > Marc

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