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Re: Bass drum triggers by closing the Hi Hat

2004-08-16 by oldguydrummer

If this has already been address, ignore.

If there were a stray ground pathway being generated, then simply 
picking up the hihat pedal and touching the metal frame of the KP65 
could trigger the KP65. Also, can you try to simply put a piece of 
rubber on the bottom and top of the HH65 to "electrically" isolate it 
from everything, including you, to see if that eliminates the 
problem. If it does then you may have a loose wire and surgery maybe 
required.

As far as sensitivity, if you take you finger and tap the flat part 
of the KP65 frame that sits on the floor with the two spurs in it, 
does the Piezo trigger. If it does, reduce the sensitivity down until 
it no longer triggers. 

Also, another thought:

Check to see if the voice for the Footclose has only one voice 
assigned and not two. If a cross-velocity setting between voice 1 and 
voice 2 for the footclose were setup so that "light" pressure on the 
HH65 would trigger voice 1 (hi-hat close sound) and a "heavy" 
pressure would trigger voice 2, then this would make sense, that 
sometimes it triggers/sometimes it does not.

If you goto the voice edit mode (and learn mode is on), press down on 
the hihat pedal to select:

KIT IN= footCl V=1
=H/015 K13 Clse     [This line will vary based on what you have setup]

Tab up to select V=1 using the <-Sel-> button and then change to V=2 
using the <Val +> button. The default is:

=K/000 NoAssign

If you accidentally changed this to K/001 or any other voice number, 
then the bass drum sound could be triggered when pressing down on the 
Hihat pedal.

Hang in there, we get through this.

OGD




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b_marc" <b_marc@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b_marc" <b_marc@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Tried both solutions without success, but... realized now
> > > that when I play bare foot it got worth. So is it possible that 
> the 
> > > triggers and/or my kit gets bad grounding over my body??????
> > 
> > Here's another possibility: When you're not actually playing the 
> > kick, do you keep the pedal close to or on the pad? If you do, it 
> > might just trigger at the slightest instigation, and you might be 
> > more apt to twitch the kick foot when you're stomping on the hi 
> hat. 
> > It doesn't take much. Try consciously keeping your beater away 
from 
> > the pad when not in use. 
> > 
> > Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I can't buy the electrical 
charge 
> > theory. Another experiment? If you unplug the kick and stomp on 
the 
> > hi hat, do you still get random kicks? If so, it's out of our 
> hands. 
> > If not, we should be able to locate the problem, even if it takes 
a 
> > while.
> 
> OK, Here is what I did:
> 1- I only slightly touched the Kick's pedal with the beater loose 
> (far away from the trigger). This still triggers the kick when 
> closing the Hi Hat.
> 2- Ths same thing like 1 but not touching the pedal with my foot. 
> This time the kick was not triggered when closing the Hi Hat.
> 3- Unplugged the Kick's cable and naturally the kick was not 
> triggered anymore.
> 
> Marc

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