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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@d...> wrote:

> At 10:06 AM 9/8/2004, Electronic Lithuania wrote:
> > I am trying to find a company or person able to
> > extract the programm/data memory from protected
> > ATmega128 and ...
 
> Why is Digikey looking for this?
> Are you really from Digikey?

No. If he was, he would probably have spelled it correctly with the 
hyphen and upper-case K. I also got his message directly. His e-mail 
address appeared as ltu_electronic at yahoo dot com.

He's obviously up to no good, but posing as someone else in e-mail 
isn't limited to the bad guys these days. I got an enquiry on my Web 
site asking for the source of my Dhrystone benchmark for MCUs. It is 
posted and freely available, but the enquirer didn't know that. He 
gave his real name but entered his personal e-mail address and a 
phony company name. When Google didn't turn up any references to the 
company, I peeked at the e-mail address from which he filled out the 
Web e-mail form. It was his name at ZiLOG dot com. So, ZiLOG staff 
are not above using false identities on the Internet. I gave him the 
link to the benchmark, told him I knew his real identity and we've 
had a few productive conversations about ZiLOG's many failings.

Graham.

On 8 Sep 2004 at 8:06, Electronic Lithuania wrote:

> 
> Have important question to group members.

	Important question or just piracy propaganda?

At 10:06 AM 9/8/2004, Electronic Lithuania wrote:

>Have important question to group members.
>I am trying to find a company or person able to extract the programm/data memory from protected ATmega128 and .jed Xilinx XCR3032.
>The work will be paid in limits of 3-5K USD.
>I heard that <http://www.semiresearch.com/>http://www.semiresearch.com provides services, as memory recovery for all microcontrollers and programmable logic.
>Someone have any refference about them ?
> 
>Regards,
>John Trompson
>Digikey Inc.

Why is Digikey looking for this?
Are you really from Digikey?

>
>No. If he was, he would probably have spelled it correctly with the 
>hyphen and upper-case K. I also got his message directly. His e-mail 
>address appeared as ltu_electronic at yahoo dot com.

It was a semi-rhetorical question.. :)

>He's obviously up to no good, but posing as someone else in e-mail 
>isn't limited to the bad guys these days. I got an enquiry on my Web 
>site asking for the source of my Dhrystone benchmark for MCUs. It is 
>posted and freely available, but the enquirer didn't know that. He 
>gave his real name but entered his personal e-mail address and a 
>phony company name. When Google didn't turn up any references to the 
>company, I peeked at the e-mail address from which he filled out the 
>Web e-mail form. It was his name at ZiLOG dot com. So, ZiLOG staff 
>are not above using false identities on the Internet. I gave him the 
>link to the benchmark, told him I knew his real identity and we've 
>had a few productive conversations about ZiLOG's many failings.

I'm surprised that you're done so quickly!

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@d...> wrote:

> It was a semi-rhetorical question.. :)

Well, mine was a semi-trailer answer! *&

> > ... we've had a few productive conversations 
> > about ZiLOG's many failings ...
> I'm surprised that you're done so quickly!

I didn't say we were finished.  ZiLOG have released ZDS II versions 
4.7.0, 4.7.2, 4.8.0 and 4.8.2 all with faults that prevent it from 
compiling my existing code base (ECROS) which I wrote under 4.6.1. 
They withdrew the original Z8 Encore! from the market (probably due 
to its horrible defects, but they won't admit that), replaced it with 
one that is not fully software compatible and can't be programmed 
with 4.6.1.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, but alone it explains my presence 
here. I wish I had never heard of the Z8 Encore! and had started out 
with the ATmega64 two years ago.

Mind you, the Z8 Encore! is much easer to understand and program than 
the ATmega and you only need one pin for firmware load and in-circuit 
debug. If only ZiLOG wouldn't screw up all the time ...

Graham.

>
>Mind you, the Z8 Encore! is much easer to understand and program than 
>the ATmega and you only need one pin for firmware load and in-circuit 
>debug. If only ZiLOG wouldn't screw up all the time ...

I started out writing Z8 code.
Their emulator was only useful for programming OTPs, it wouldn't single step!

Then, they tried to sell me some Z8s that had no flash (fantasy at that time), no emulation, and no OTP!  You'd have to send them a hex file, and wait for mask parts.

Sort of sounds like the "Once and Future King" has gone completely senile.

Bruce

Dave VanHorn wrote:

> 
> >
> >Mind you, the Z8 Encore! is much easer to understand and program than
> >the ATmega and you only need one pin for firmware load and in-circuit
> >debug. If only ZiLOG wouldn't screw up all the time ...
> 
> I started out writing Z8 code.
> Their emulator was only useful for programming OTPs, it wouldn't single step!
> 
> Then, they tried to sell me some Z8s that had no flash (fantasy at that time), no emulation, and no OTP! 
> You'd have to send them a hex file, and wait for mask parts.

On Thursday 09 September 2004 00:27, Dave VanHorn wrote:
> At 10:06 AM 9/8/2004, Electronic Lithuania wrote:
> >Have important question to group members.
> >I am trying to find a company or person able to extract the
> > programm/data memory from protected ATmega128 and .jed Xilinx XCR3032.
> > The work will be paid in limits of 3-5K USD.
> >I heard that <http://www.semiresearch.com/>http://www.semiresearch.com
> > provides services, as memory recovery for all microcontrollers and
> > programmable logic. Someone have any refference about them ?
> >
> >Regards,
> >John Trompson
> >Digikey Inc.

Of course he's not. He's just a spammer. One even more stupid than
the average spammer. It could even be Anatolij Vulf, the registered
owner of semiresearch.com, who's been doing shady stuff like hacking
GSM, etc since 1998.

Digikey or its agents would be in violation of the DMCA for
attempting to circumvent a copy protection measure. So it's NOT
Digikey!

Got following message from Paul Gehrls of  Digi-Key in response to a email
to them yesterday concerning John Trompson being one of their employees. Of
course I too would have been shocked if he was a employee of Digi-Key.
However, if he was they needed to know about him.
Mike Bronosky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Gehrls
To: michael@bronosky.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: You sent our webmaster a question about a chat room issue

Michael,

Our webmaster asked me to do some digging on the issue that you sent her and
the fact that some guy that doesn't work here is putting out messages on the
chat room that you visit.  What is it that he did that made this seem odd to
you? The fact that someone is claiming to hire someone from a chat room to
do work?  I can say that we would never post such a thing.  I am not a
technician and am not sure what he is claiming he is looking to pay someone
to do, but I can assure you that we would not resort to this.  Do you or did
you see this message out there repeatedly or just once?  Do you have any
additional information that you did not supply?  I am not sure if there is
anything we can do about someone using our name out there or not, but will
look into if we can.

Paul Gehrls
Business Analyst
Digi-Key Corp.
218-681-6674
800-338-4105 ext 1121

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernd Felsche" <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Memory extraction


> On Thursday 09 September 2004 00:27, Dave VanHorn wrote:
> > At 10:06 AM 9/8/2004, Electronic Lithuania wrote:
> > >Have important question to group members.
> > >I am trying to find a company or person able to extract the
> > > programm/data memory from protected ATmega128 and .jed Xilinx XCR3032.
> > > The work will be paid in limits of 3-5K USD.
> > >I heard that <http://www.semiresearch.com/>http://www.semiresearch.com
> > > provides services, as memory recovery for all microcontrollers and
> > > programmable logic. Someone have any refference about them ?
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >John Trompson
> > >Digikey Inc.
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> Of course he's not. He's just a spammer. One even more stupid than
> the average spammer. It could even be Anatolij Vulf, the registered
> owner of semiresearch.com, who's been doing shady stuff like hacking
> GSM, etc since 1998.
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> Digikey or its agents would be in violation of the DMCA for
> attempting to circumvent a copy protection measure. So it's NOT
> Digikey!
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