Atari-Midi Archives

ok , as long as i'm subscribed , it don't really effect me that much.

did yahoo lift the exceed limit yet?
i think these two groups are about the best thing going on the internet and
anticipate people uploading items from now until
the year 3000!!!
i hope we never run out of programs for the atari

even shareware,commercial,cracked,hacker,,whatever..i love em all!!!!

charles
anybody ever get that improvisor program included on a st format cover disk
to work?
i think its got a version of merrry xmas it mutates into a mild weirdness..
mine worked slightly then bombed..



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr.Ambient" <g.goebertus@...>
To: <atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [atari-midi-archives] Re: Hey guys, Looking for some Hardware


> Hi guys!
>
> This is all extremely interesting :-)..., but may I remind you that this
> site is just the atari-midi 'ARCHIVE'.
> Some years ago we needed some more yahoo diskspace, that's why.
>
> The big scene is at:  atari-midi@yahoogroups.com
> (That's were the fune is :-))
>
> Best,
> Dr A
>
> PeWe schreef:
> > >>>
> >
> > charles midi gfa pascal schrieb:
> > >
> > > WOW REALLY HOW MANY TRACKS PER SONG DOYOU HAVE ?
> >
> > Oh,- that can be very different. Depends on the song itself.
> > You know, today I use also a PC based DAW w/ Cubase SX3, but have all
> > my Atari stuff in addition, just because here are all my songs and
> > arrangements fom the past in stock too,- mostly in Notator format.
> > A lot of \ufffdem weren\ufffdt relased and include nice parts p.ex.,- so for me,
> > it\ufffds easier to use the Atari/Notator format instead importing midi
> > files containing 16 tracks only per pattern and
> > arrange/edit/requantize all this again in a modern DAW because of
> > different resolution. I used always 1536ppq w/ Notator SL.
> > Too much work and wasted time.
> >
> > Songs could be only a few midi tracks if there were many guitars and
> > vocals in the front and if there were a drummer and/or percussionist
> > available to record audio. I also don\ufffdt use all my midi outboard tone
> > generators in every song.
> > But if I did complex arrangements alone, incl. all the drums,
> > percussion and sometimes orchestral percussions in addition, the
> > quantum of midi tracks rised fast.
> >
> > I use(d) to have a separate track for each of the drum/percussion
> > instruments and I use(d) to have a separate pattern of 16 midi
> > channels for the orchestrations w/ 1 sampler in multi mode p.ex..
> > This makes it easier to record audio tracks one by one later because
> > of better overview, easy muting tracks and better timing during audio
> > record in sync w/a multi track recorder.
> >
> > Some midi tracks are needed for separate midi controller lanes too,-
> > you might listen to a kind of midi-mix during arranging incl. volume
> > fades, pannings and so on and before you record anything.
> > This can cause some timing gliches if all is playing in realtime, so,
> > if you start to record midi tracks to audio one by one, simply mute
> > all not needed tracks and mute the controller lanes too, avoiding
> > unwanted controller-events affecting the recording of your pure signal
> > which has to be full volume throughout w/ no pannings because you do
> > this in the audio mix later.
> >
> > Rule:
> > Never change programs within a midi-track
> > Don\ufffdt insert CC-controllers in a midi track together w/ the midi-notes
> > Don\ufffdt change midi channels within a midi track.
> >
> > Otherwise you aren\ufffdt able to copy patterns in the arrange list to only
> > one pattern incl. rendered midi transpositions, velocity offsets and
> > so on without getting cluttered program changes, transpositions,
> > velocity jumps, volume an panning changes across the tracks resulting
> > in a endless editing of these copied tracks during recording audio.
> >
> > If you work w/ signature changes and timing offsets of patterns in the
> > arrange list, it\ufffds even more important to organize the miditracks and
> > patterns right.
> >
> > Good organization of tracks and controllers cost miditracks.
> >
> > > WHAT TOS DO YOU USE TOO?
> >
> > TOS 1.4 w/ ATari MegaST4
> > TOS 2.06 w/ Atari MegaSTE
> > Something in between ( the last one) for the 1040STEs
> >
> > Today, the Mega ST4 and the 1040 STEs only run Steinberg Synthworks
> > bankmanager/editor programs for the midi tone generators/keyboards, so
> > I run Mega STE 4 w/ Unitor 2 and Log3, MegaST4 w/ Unitor N and Export
> > and 1 1040 STe w/ a Midex.
> >
> > >
> > > I GOT MY MIDEX WORKING AND BEEN USIG IT  BUT THE ONLY SET BACK NOW
> > IS SCREEN REDRAWS ARE A
> > > TOUGHY..THEY ARE SLOWER WITH THE MORE TRACKS I HAVE PER SONG.
> >
> > I use Cubase Atari only in the case someone comes up w/ tracks created
> > in Cubase Atari format ( this happened in the past).
> > I prefer Notator SL for the Atari platform, Notator is the tightest
> > program w/ midi.
> > I use Notator Logic 2.5 to import Notator SL files/songs to change
> > from pattern oriented sequence structure to a linear track based
> > sequencer structure.
> > This makes it easier to import midi into any linear track based DAW.
> >
> > I\ufffdm able to run all my midi outboard instruments ( 22 devices,- 30 if
> > you count a TX816 as 8 DX7) some in mulitmode, w/ Notator SL, Unitor N
> > (or Unitor 2), Export or Log3 and a Sycologic 16in/32 out midi matriss
> > in realtime to DAT or any other stereo recorder without any timing
> > issues at once.
> > Well, you need a lot of outboard FX and mixers for this, but I did
> > this during the times I only recorded vocals and guitars to a 8-track
> > recorder w/ the midi playback running into the mix in realtime.
> >
> > Today w/ a DAW like Cubase on the PC, I can record all the tracks to
> > harddisk, no question.
> > But it works like described above also and demonstrates the power of
> > midi w/ Atari computers and Notator.
> > And I have still my 8- track tape recorder left here, running in SPMTE
> > sync,- sometimes it\ufffds also a great idea to route software instruments
> > out of the DAW to the tape recorder and back to the DAW as audio,-
> > makes a different sound.
> > >
> > > CHARLES
> >
> > PeWe
> >
> >
>
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