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RE: [AN1x] Voices

RE: [AN1x] Voices

2003-01-12 by Gary Gregson

Hi DManx,

I tried to answer your queries on AN file formats, but it got bounced. I
also answered by private email. In case you didn't receive those emails,
here they are again:

_____________________ 


To open ANS files simply set An1xEdit to PLG150AN mode (from setup
menu), then use File open. The file dialog contains a dropdown list of
file types recognised by AN1xEdit. Select XGworks AN PLG files (*ANS)
and you should be able to see the target ANS file. Select it and open as
usual.

You should note that ANS files do not maintain the comments and system
parameters of AN1 & ANP files. Therefore you should avoid the use of ANS
except for compatibility with the XGworks (and derived standalone)
editor.

Furthermore ANS files are subject to the same parameter conversion
restrictions as ANP files when saving to AN1x AN1 format (see the
introduction section of the An1xEdit Help file for details)

Regarding An200 and An150, it is true that the AN200 uses the PLG150AN
card inside the box. However it also provides a hosting section that
contains an XG effects unit and drum parts. Also the PLG150AN (and thus
the AN200) do provide the arpeggiator and step sequencer of the AN1x! 

__________________________________

Morphing on the PLG150AN card (and the AN200) is slightly different to
the AN1x. On the AN1x, morphing is provided between two scene memories
of a single patch. However in the PLG card, there is only one scene per
patch. Hence morphing is provided between the current patch and a patch
stored in the preset or user banks.

To setup morphing using An1xEdit in PLG150AN mode:

1) In the System area (above the onscreen keyboard) set the MSB dial to
the desired morph bank (USER, XG-A or XG-B).

2) Set the LSB and PROG dials to choose the desired patch from the bank

3) Turn on the MORPH LED

By default the Mod wheel will control the morphing. However the
controller can be changed using the SCENE CTRL dial.

__________________________________________

To answer you recent questions. It sounds to me as though you are saving
as ANS files, which do not contain comments. Otherwise, you are simply
confused as to what file you are saving and reloading.

>>Also how do I send an150 sounds to xg effects? 

What exactly do you mean by this???

Regards

Gary Gregson
email: gary@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: DMANX@... [mailto:DMANX@...] 
Sent: 11 January 2003 19:13
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AN1x] Voices


Hi,
I'm having trouble saving newly created voices with added comments in
an1xedit.I have created a new user sequence from scratch.Not using any
exg voices to start of with.Once I created the voice, I highlight the
voice and went to both action/bulk section (in user mode),and pressed
send.Then I pressed store current under action/bulk section(in user
mode) sections,then saved the file as .anp file.I close down
anx1edit,then recall it back again, go into user voices, but cannot find
the voice with added comments? But I know which user voice number it
is,so I highlight it,click on send under action/bulk, but here a difrent
voice,so I refresh synth still here a diffrent voice.So I have to hit
send and refresh  a number of times till the voice I created comes
back.But still with no name or comments on the patch?
Were am I going wrong?

Also how do I send an150 sounds to xg effects?

Regards 
Dmanx.

Re: RE: [AN1x] Voices

2003-01-12 by DMANX@talk21.com

Just in case you did not get my last question, here it is again.

I'm having trouble saving newly created voices with added comments in an1xedit.I have created a new user sequence from scratch.Not using any exg voices to start of with.Once I created the voice, I highlight the voice and went to both action/bulk section (in user mode),and pressed send.Then I pressed store current under action/bulk section(in user mode) sections,then saved the file as .anp file.I close down anx1edit,then recall it back again, go into user voices, but cannot find the voice with added comments? But I know which user voice number it is,so I highlight it,click on send under action/bulk, but here a difrent voice,so I refresh synth still here a diffrent voice.So I have to hit send and refresh  a number of times till the voice I created comes back.But still with no name or comments on the patch?
Were am I going wrong?
I also heard that you can send sounds of the an150 to XG effects.How is this done,or am I getting cofused.

Regards 
Dmanx. 

> Hi DManx,
>
>I tried to answer your queries on AN file formats, but it got bounced. I
>also answered by private email. In case you didn't receive those emails,
>here they are again:
>
>_____________________ 
>
>
>To open ANS files simply set An1xEdit to PLG150AN mode (from setup
>menu), then use File open. The file dialog contains a dropdown list of
>file types recognised by AN1xEdit. Select XGworks AN PLG files (*ANS)
>and you should be able to see the target ANS file. Select it and open as
>usual.
>
>You should note that ANS files do not maintain the comments and system
>parameters of AN1 & ANP files. Therefore you should avoid the use of ANS
>except for compatibility with the XGworks (and derived standalone)
>editor.
>
>Furthermore ANS files are subject to the same parameter conversion
>restrictions as ANP files when saving to AN1x AN1 format (see the
>introduction section of the An1xEdit Help file for details)
>
>Regarding An200 and An150, it is true that the AN200 uses the PLG150AN
>card inside the box. However it also provides a hosting section that
>contains an XG effects unit and drum parts. Also the PLG150AN (and thus
>the AN200) do provide the arpeggiator and step sequencer of the AN1x! 
>
>__________________________________
>
>Morphing on the PLG150AN card (and the AN200) is slightly different to
>the AN1x. On the AN1x, morphing is provided between two scene memories
>of a single patch. However in the PLG card, there is only one scene per
>patch. Hence morphing is provided between the current patch and a patch
>stored in the preset or user banks.
>
>To setup morphing using An1xEdit in PLG150AN mode:
>
>1) In the System area (above the onscreen keyboard) set the MSB dial to
>the desired morph bank (USER, XG-A or XG-B).
>
>2) Set the LSB and PROG dials to choose the desired patch from the bank
>
>3) Turn on the MORPH LED
>
>By default the Mod wheel will control the morphing. However the
>controller can be changed using the SCENE CTRL dial.
>
>__________________________________________
>
>To answer you recent questions. It sounds to me as though you are saving
>as ANS files, which do not contain comments. Otherwise, you are simply
>confused as to what file you are saving and reloading.
>
>Also how do I send an150 sounds to xg effects? 
>
>What exactly do you mean by this???
>
>Regards
>
>Gary Gregson
>email: gary@...
>
> 
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DMANX@... [mailto:DMANX@...] 
>Sent: 11 January 2003 19:13
>To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [AN1x] Voices
>
>
>Hi,
>I'm having trouble saving newly created voices with added comments in
>an1xedit.I have created a new user sequence from scratch.Not using any
>exg voices to start of with.Once I created the voice, I highlight the
>voice and went to both action/bulk section (in user mode),and pressed
>send.Then I pressed store current under action/bulk section(in user
>mode) sections,then saved the file as .anp file.I close down
>anx1edit,then recall it back again, go into user voices, but cannot find
>the voice with added comments? But I know which user voice number it
>is,so I highlight it,click on send under action/bulk, but here a difrent
>voice,so I refresh synth still here a diffrent voice.So I have to hit
>send and refresh  a number of times till the voice I created comes
>back.But still with no name or comments on the patch?
>Were am I going wrong?
>
>Also how do I send an150 sounds to xg effects?
>
>Regards 
>Dmanx. 
>
>
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Re: [AN1x] Voices

2003-01-14 by Jon <jondl_2000@yahoo.com>

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, DMANX@t... wrote:
> Just in case you did not get my last question, here it is again.
> 

Did you not read Gary's reply? This is EXACTLY the post to which 
he responded - and I believe he did an exceptional job of trying to 
address all your recent points.

You *really* must take more time to review the replies to your 
posts before reposting your questions - this appears to be 
nothing more than laziness on your part judging by how often it 
occurs.

Furthermore, much of this information is available in the Read 
Me files included with AN1xEdit. And if you weren't aware, many 
of your SW1000XG/PLG150xx questions are addressed at the 
XG Audio Factory web site:

http://www.xgfactory.com/

You will find MANY free downloads, FlashROM updaters, 
manuals and resources for Cubase, Logic, Cakewalk, etc. there 
-- and of course at the PLG150AN page:

http://www.xgfactory.com/html/plg/p150anx.htm

and the Yamahasynths Downloads page too:

http://www.yamahasynth.com/down/main.htm

That XG Works XP update mentioned on this list recently can be 
had there.

That said...

> I'm having trouble saving newly created voices with added 
comments in an1xedit.I have created a new user sequence from 
scratch.Not using any exg voices to start of with.Once I created 
the voice, I highlight the voice and went to both action/bulk 
section (in user mode),and pressed send.Then I pressed store 
current under action/bulk section(in user mode) sections,then 
saved the file as .anp file.


I assume you are using AN1xEdit in PLG150AN Mode, correct? 
This is found under the Setup menu. You find the program will 
automatically close the currently active Voice bank when 
switching to/from PLG150AN mode. You can only Save an .anp 
file while in PLG150AN mode so I assume you've made it this 
far.


>I close down anx1edit,then recall it back again, go into user 
voices, but cannot find the voice with added comments? 


From this description it sounds as though you are not working 
with the Voice bank you believe you saved to your hard drive. Are 
you *certain* you gave the Voice bank an independent name and 
saved it accordingly with the .anp suffix?


>But I know which user voice number it is,so I highlight it,click on 
send under action/bulk, but here a difrent voice,so I refresh synth 
still here a diffrent voice.


This all but confirms you are NOT working with the Voice bank 
you believe you saved as an .anp file.


>So I have to hit send and refresh  a number of times till the 
voice I created comes back.


It sounds as though the Refresh command is being issued from 
an *empty* Voice bank against your PLG150AN and eventually 
the 1st edit you 'stored' in the User program location is being 
recalled, i.e. refreshed.

>But still with no name or comments on the patch?


Becuase it's not the Voice bank you believe you saved as an .anp 
file.


> Were am I going wrong?


You are not working with the Voice bank you believe you saved 
as an .anp file.


> I also heard that you can send sounds of the an150 to XG 
effects.How is this done,or am I getting cofused.
> 


You'll find loads of info regarding the SW100XG and many 
tutorials at the XG Audio Factory web site.

I believe you should get past saving and recalling your files in a 
predictable manner and demonstrating that you acknoweldge 
and understand the replies you receive to your posts before you 
advance to more complicated subject matters.

Furthermore, this is not an SW1000XG support group so 
SW1KXG answers from list members may not be forthcoming 
(particularly since is the third time this post has made it to the list 
and no one has taken up the question yet...)

Jon

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