The Yamaha AN1x Synthesizer mailing list

Java actually did....jscript may not have (cept for on the serverside) but 
java has dropped the bomb in a biiiiiiig way....just in another skin-flash is 
based on java and flash is absolutely HUGE these days...i know windows won't 
be kicked out anytime soon and i never said it woudl be....i personally love 
windows, i've never had too much trouble w/ instability-sure i've got my 
gripes....

> Something might pop up with Linux, but the Linux hype is the same as the
> Java hype we had a few years ago. Java was going to be *the* thing on your
> desktop. Has that happened? No way. Lotsado about nothing and Sun's
> marketing department trying to create an image that was just plain wrong.
> 


oh, so your saying there will be innovation rather than stale programs 
comming out year after year...gotchya :-)

haha, maybe that's not what you had in mind, but thats what i see...look at 
bram bos(hammerhead, moonfish, tureg, and the mind behind steinberg's BBox) 
-even tho he is doing stuff for windows and he doesnt have minions behind 
him, i think that he has, on his own with no help, made some of the coolest 
programs out there-many people hate them but they are free (cept bbox)....if 
he had a whole scene behind him doing the same thing who knows what could 
happen?


>> and it
will not happen. If something will pop up, it'll be a labour of love from a
hacker, and not something from the established firms like Steinberg and
Emagic. The target audiences of Linux and music software companies are
>>rather disjunct.

haha oops, did i say invented?  i was in a hurry-developed...slap me

>>>(the guy who 'invented' Linux), 

by the time i can afford mac, i'll be dead...haha...and whether he was 
misquoted or not i still think it's funny :-)

>>>Therefore, it's Mac OS X for me. By the time I can afford a Mac, they'll
have fixed the OS. :)


nah.....like i always say-it just comes down to preference, there's no point 
in argueing with people because it's like arguing about religion, nearly 
pointless...so let's all be happy an shut up about our OS :-)  


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

From: <angelphkt@...>

> Java actually did....jscript may not have (cept for on the serverside) but
> java has dropped the bomb in a biiiiiiig way....just in another skin-flash
is
> based on java and flash is absolutely HUGE these days...

If I recall correctly, Java was going to be *the* thing, at least according
to Sun and Oracle. Sun came out with the JavaStation, specifically for Java
applications. The fact that this product was canned after a little while
goes to show that Sun's plan failed miserably, despite the marketing
campaign.

JScript on the server? You must be joking. PHP: yes. VBScript: yes. But
JScript or JavaScript: no way.

JavaScript is used a lot on the client side. This is where Java (which has
nothing to do with JavaScript) was supposed to reign, but it hasn't
happened.

Flash may be 'huge' these days, but so where the 'portal' sites some two
years ago. The internet is going from hype to hype, and the hype of the
moment is Flash, and the news-based sites. Give it another year, and it'll
settle down.

Java on the server side of things (J2EE) is picking up. Look for pages with
a .jsp extension.

If anyone is (quite rightly) thinking what the heck this has to do with the
AN1x or music applications in general, I've been toying with the idea of
creating some kind of network-based environment where you can freely
exchange software controllers (like AN1xEdit) with hardware ones. You could
think of controlling a program like AN1xEdit with your AN1x, without said
program actually knowing whether it's a controller on your screen or on your
synth that's operating it.

It would make things a lot easier. The program could tell the environment
"look, I need 56 knobs to tweak a sound" and the environment could tell it
"hey, waddayaknow, I have an AN1x for you that can do these 56 knobs" (put
your AN1x in mode 2) or it could say "no, but I'll draw them for you on the
screen". The program would never know about where the 56 knobs are.

(This is just an example, so don't bother Gary about it. :) )

> > Something might pop up with Linux, but the Linux hype is the same as the
> > Java hype we had a few years ago. Java was going to be *the* thing on
your
> > desktop. Has that happened? No way. Lotsado about nothing and Sun's
> > marketing department trying to create an image that was just plain
wrong.
>
> oh, so your saying there will be innovation rather than stale programs
> comming out year after year...gotchya :-)

It could be that you didn't get me, but I certainly don't get the above
statement... sorry.

> nah.....like i always say-it just comes down to preference, there's no
point
> in argueing with people because it's like arguing about religion, nearly
> pointless...so let's all be happy an shut up about our OS :-)

Fine with me, but I thought that a reality check was in place.

- Peter