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Hello,

I'm scratching my head with trying to pan synth and rhythm tracks on this unit. For the synth track, I know that I can pan the track with the knob and can record a free EG to do that- problem is that I hear zippering going on. Is there a way to record each step with it's own pan assignment just to see if this would help?

For the rhythm tracks, some sounds (i.e. high hat) naturally go to L/R while others stay dead center. Is this tweakable at all or am I at a loss for panning here as well?

Thanks for any insight.

Brian

You should be able to put cc# 10 into the cc part of the step sequencer.

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Hello,

AN200 manual says (tip 30, page 39) that you can pan synth track only, for rhythm tracks you can't do that. I have AN200 too, but never try to pan it yet, have to try later.

Cheers,
Arto

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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:16:13 +0000
Subject: [AN1x] AN200 - Synth and Rhythm track Pans


























Hello,



I'm scratching my head with trying to pan synth and rhythm tracks on this unit. For the synth track, I know that I can pan the track with the knob and can record a free EG to do that- problem is that I hear zippering going on. Is there a way to record each step with it's own pan assignment just to see if this would help?



For the rhythm tracks, some sounds (i.e. high hat) naturally go to L/R while others stay dead center. Is this tweakable at all or am I at a loss for panning here as well?



Thanks for any insight.



Brian



















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Hi Brian

Looks like this should be possible with either Sysex or using the AN200 PC Editor (see AN200 folder)

I have just added here...
Files > AN200 Folder > AN200 Editor - Step Sequencer
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/AN200%20Folder/AN200%20Editor%20-%20Step%20Sequencer/
...screen shots of the Editor's Step Sequencer programmer.

If you look towards the top left, you will see a track parameter box, which suggests that for each track (Synth + Rhythm1/2/3)you can set Cutoff, Res, Volume, Pan and Effect send level. Wow!

I twiddled the pan knob in each tab and noted the MIDI sysex output into MIDI-OX - here's the result.

Synth F0 43 10 6D 08 08 06 (00~7F) F7
Rhythm1 F0 43 10 6D 08 00 06 (00~7F) F7
Rhythm2 F0 43 10 6D 08 01 06 (00~7F) F7
Rhythm3 F0 43 10 6D 08 02 06 (00~7F) F7

The part in the bracket indicates the value that changes (0~127 in decimal, 00~7F in hexadecimal), where 1=left and 127=right. Incidentally, for the Rhythm track, value of 00 seems to set it to RND (random) which will presumably bounce your rhythm sounds around on each beat. Sounds like fun.

So you could use a MIDI DAW which can output Sysex codes, or XG Works + AN200 Editor, or a MIDI controller box (eg BCR2000) to set the pan for each track.

In theory!!!! I'm testing the AN Editor/Sysex on a PC not connected to an AN200, so I can't test it - that's up to you.

Have fun :)

Bill

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Brian P" <ududidj@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm scratching my head with trying to pan synth and rhythm tracks on this unit. For the synth track, I know that I can pan the track with the knob and can record a free EG to do that- problem is that I hear zippering going on. Is there a way to record each step with it's own pan assignment just to see if this would help?
>
> For the rhythm tracks, some sounds (i.e. high hat) naturally go to L/R while others stay dead center. Is this tweakable at all or am I at a loss for panning here as well?
>
> Thanks for any insight.
>
> Brian
>

Good info! That random pan is the thing that I was noticing scattered in various rhythm tracks that I was looking for. I was able to get the whole individual rhythm tracks to pan via the front panel but that's as far as I got.

Are you using the editor on Win7?

Thanks for the tips. I'll have to look into this more!

Brian

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "twobeelandscape" <bill@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Brian
>
> Looks like this should be possible with either Sysex or using the AN200 PC Editor (see AN200 folder)
>
> I have just added here...
> Files > AN200 Folder > AN200 Editor - Step Sequencer
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/AN200%20Folder/AN200%20Editor%20-%20Step%20Sequencer/
> ...screen shots of the Editor's Step Sequencer programmer.
>
> If you look towards the top left, you will see a track parameter box, which suggests that for each track (Synth + Rhythm1/2/3)you can set Cutoff, Res, Volume, Pan and Effect send level. Wow!
>
> I twiddled the pan knob in each tab and noted the MIDI sysex output into MIDI-OX - here's the result.
>
> Synth F0 43 10 6D 08 08 06 (00~7F) F7
> Rhythm1 F0 43 10 6D 08 00 06 (00~7F) F7
> Rhythm2 F0 43 10 6D 08 01 06 (00~7F) F7
> Rhythm3 F0 43 10 6D 08 02 06 (00~7F) F7
>
> The part in the bracket indicates the value that changes (0~127 in decimal, 00~7F in hexadecimal), where 1=left and 127=right. Incidentally, for the Rhythm track, value of 00 seems to set it to RND (random) which will presumably bounce your rhythm sounds around on each beat. Sounds like fun.
>
> So you could use a MIDI DAW which can output Sysex codes, or XG Works + AN200 Editor, or a MIDI controller box (eg BCR2000) to set the pan for each track.
>
> In theory!!!! I'm testing the AN Editor/Sysex on a PC not connected to an AN200, so I can't test it - that's up to you.
>
> Have fun :)
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Brian P" <ududidj@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm scratching my head with trying to pan synth and rhythm tracks on this unit. For the synth track, I know that I can pan the track with the knob and can record a free EG to do that- problem is that I hear zippering going on. Is there a way to record each step with it's own pan assignment just to see if this would help?
> >
> > For the rhythm tracks, some sounds (i.e. high hat) naturally go to L/R while others stay dead center. Is this tweakable at all or am I at a loss for panning here as well?
> >
> > Thanks for any insight.
> >
> > Brian
> >
>

Brian, the AN200 editor only works as a plug-in to Yamaha's XGWorks. This can run under Windows 7 32- and 64-bit. I am using XGWorks 3.7 lite, but you can also get XGWorks4 from the friendly XG users group at
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xgworksusers/
where a nice man named Claude will give you a link if you ask - you'll see lots of other people have done the same.

I can't remember how much mucking about there was installing compatible versions (eh WinXP), but it wasn't too bad - there are probably instructions with the files at the XG site.

The AN200 editor is, at the very least, a great insight into what the AN200 is capable of, which is a fair bit more than the front panel, or even the manual, would have you believe.

Incidentally, I mentioned in a posting above, that I am working on an iPad based editor for AN1x / AN200, but progress is very slow at present due to heavy work commitments. Suffice to say that I will be looking at AN200 editor for inspiration and sysex codes!

Bill

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Brian P" <ududidj@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Good info! That random pan is the thing that I was noticing scattered in various rhythm tracks that I was looking for. I was able to get the whole individual rhythm tracks to pan via the front panel but that's as far as I got.
>
> Are you using the editor on Win7?
>
> Thanks for the tips. I'll have to look into this more!
>
> Brian
>