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I went nuts last week and bought a virtual analog vst plugin. I found some things were very nice about computer synths, mainly getting all the lfos, effects, etc to sync with the music.

The VST sounds more like a real analog synthesizer. I personally like the AN1X sound better, but I haven't explored the VST synth in depth.

I know how to use the ribbon controller on the AN1X which gives it a huge advantage. I suppose I will have to trudge through the owner's manual and learn how to use the controller on the VST.

Also, although there are plugin amp simulators, the AN1X through a low watt tube amp and a 2X12 cabinet is a glorious sound.

Given that the plugin was marked down to $15.00 it's easy to see why companies might be reluctant to put hardware synths on the market.

Rainbow Jimmy

Agreed about the reluctance to produce hardware synths. My buddy plays a
wind synth and that list is alive with many players who go play in venues
for money with nothing but their wind synth and a laptop (and the house PA).
I remember a time when people would tremble with horror when we mentioned
that we used Cakewalk live to change synth patches on all our equipment.
Everyone was SURE Microsoft Windows would crash. and it did sometimes. But
that was 10 years ago.



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Subject: [AN1x] AN1X vs AAS Ultra VA





I went nuts last week and bought a virtual analog vst plugin. I found some
things were very nice about computer synths, mainly getting all the lfos,
effects, etc to sync with the music.

The VST sounds more like a real analog synthesizer. I personally like the
AN1X sound better, but I haven't explored the VST synth in depth.

I know how to use the ribbon controller on the AN1X which gives it a huge
advantage. I suppose I will have to trudge through the owner's manual and
learn how to use the controller on the VST.

Also, although there are plugin amp simulators, the AN1X through a low watt
tube amp and a 2X12 cabinet is a glorious sound.

Given that the plugin was marked down to $15.00 it's easy to see why
companies might be reluctant to put hardware synths on the market.

Rainbow Jimmy



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the ass ultra is a nice sounding vst and its oscillators produce the drift betwwen each osc to produce that beating sound of analog but i find that the vst instruments have no umph plus if you drive them to hard you get drop out notes and glitches

hardware sounds way better specialy the bottom end bass wise my korg dss1 bass kills any vst hands down and this sampler is 20 years old and it can sync its oscilators with sampled sounds no vsti can do that or any other sampler

an1x sound is nice not quite a prophet 5 but close but the envelope modulation of the fm and the 8 controllers go way beyond the capabilities of the prophet 5 so you get extended sound creation which the p5 cant but the new p8 can

i also like the controller sequences which is a nice touch which no aanalog has

i use vsti but only for sampling sound sources i then stick it into my old sampler synth engines for better manipulation

dont get rid of the hardware you will regret it in the end when you have to upgrade comps and os and find that the vsti you brought dont work any longer

i like the switch on and play features of hardware not having to play with a mouse and having to buy expensive hardware controller keyboards so that i can play the danm vst

i buy hardware synths and use there controllers to play vsti i use my an1x with wusicstation and blend the both sounds to gether and use the contollers and ribbon to control the vsti aswell

you can pick up old hardware for the price of a vsti now days

----- Original Message -----
From: spaceanimals
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: [AN1x] AN1X vs AAS Ultra VA


I went nuts last week and bought a virtual analog vst plugin. I found some things were very nice about computer synths, mainly getting all the lfos, effects, etc to sync with the music.

The VST sounds more like a real analog synthesizer. I personally like the AN1X sound better, but I haven't explored the VST synth in depth.

I know how to use the ribbon controller on the AN1X which gives it a huge advantage. I suppose I will have to trudge through the owner's manual and learn how to use the controller on the VST.

Also, although there are plugin amp simulators, the AN1X through a low watt tube amp and a 2X12 cabinet is a glorious sound.

Given that the plugin was marked down to $15.00 it's easy to see why companies might be reluctant to put hardware synths on the market.

Rainbow Jimmy






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I could never get rid of my hardware synths, including the AN1x and a Nord G2 Engine, for my VA fix. But the laptop experience is getting more positive for some things. In Pure floyd (www.purefloyd.co.uk) I use NI B4 on a Vista (spit) laptop for the Hammond and Farfisa sounds. I run a stirpped down Vista partition with all the eye candy turned off, and the overall OS and B4 run on average at 15% load and at 8ms latency through an EDIROL USB MIDI/Audio interface which hooks the laptop up to my rig.

After running a modelled organ, I could never go back to ROMPLER orgran sounds.

Touch wood, the laptop and B4 has been as reliable as the hardware rig. I have a few extra soft synths in the studio which may need to migrate to the laptop for live use for another project. I have the Arturia Prophet V and Minimoog which are awesome and as good as any hardware lump in their sounds (and certainly when in a mix). I also have the Korg LCDE, which is also a good source of sounds.

So, I'd happily use whatever is best suited for the job.

But the AN1x will still be in my studio for as long as it's working!

Cheers
Derek

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Edwards" <gleobeam@...> wrote:
>
> Agreed about the reluctance to produce hardware synths. My buddy plays a
> wind synth and that list is alive with many players who go play in venues
> for money with nothing but their wind synth and a laptop (and the house PA).
> I remember a time when people would tremble with horror when we mentioned
> that we used Cakewalk live to change synth patches on all our equipment.
> Everyone was SURE Microsoft Windows would crash. and it did sometimes. But
> that was 10 years ago.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of spaceanimals
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:19 AM
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AN1x] AN1X vs AAS Ultra VA
>
>
>
>
>
> I went nuts last week and bought a virtual analog vst plugin. I found some
> things were very nice about computer synths, mainly getting all the lfos,
> effects, etc to sync with the music.
>
> The VST sounds more like a real analog synthesizer. I personally like the
> AN1X sound better, but I haven't explored the VST synth in depth.
>
> I know how to use the ribbon controller on the AN1X which gives it a huge
> advantage. I suppose I will have to trudge through the owner's manual and
> learn how to use the controller on the VST.
>
> Also, although there are plugin amp simulators, the AN1X through a low watt
> tube amp and a 2X12 cabinet is a glorious sound.
>
> Given that the plugin was marked down to $15.00 it's easy to see why
> companies might be reluctant to put hardware synths on the market.
>
> Rainbow Jimmy
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2469 - Release Date: 11/01/09
> 19:39:00
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "spaceanimals" <spaceanimals@...> wrote:

>
> I went nuts last week and bought a virtual analog vst plugin. I found some things were very nice about computer synths, mainly getting all the lfos, effects, etc to sync with the music.
>
> The VST sounds more like a real analog synthesizer. I personally like the AN1X sound better, but I haven't explored the VST synth in depth.
>
> I know how to use the ribbon controller on the AN1X which gives it a huge advantage. I suppose I will have to trudge through the owner's manual and learn how to use the controller on the VST.
>
> Also, although there are plugin amp simulators, the AN1X through a low watt tube amp and a 2X12 cabinet is a glorious sound.
>
> Given that the plugin was marked down to $15.00 it's easy to see why companies might be reluctant to put hardware synths on the market.
>
> Rainbow Jimmy
>

Your speaking of the current "No Brainer" promotion at audioMIDI.com for Ultra Analog VA-1:

http://www.audiomidi.com/Ultra-Analog-VA-1-BR-No-Brainer-Deal-P12692.aspx

I ran the demo for a couple of days and thought it sounded really nice, but I've already enough - better sounding - VA's (FabFilter Twin & u-he Zebra to be specific.) I have to say I was impressed with how promptly Applied Acoustics released an update to Ultra VA in response to some of the comments circulating the popular forums.

audioMIDI.com has run similar promotions through out this year. These kind of promotions, and Group Buys, are a great way to build up your software library.

There had been a $5 special on a feature reduced edition of Overloud's Breverb that was limited to the Room and Plate algorithms. I think the offer is still valid:

http://www.audiomidi.com/Breverb-audioMIDI-Edition-P12240.aspx

It sounds pretty good to my ears. but I honestly haven't spent any serious time scrutinizing it to the few other Reverb plug-ins I already had. No doubt somebody with better ears than mine can offer a serious evaluation.

The deal I was happiest with was the $15 special on PSPS Audioware PSP Nitro, but that promotion is no longer offered.

All of these offers typically lead to further promotional offers, i.e. discounts, on upgrades or product bundles from the same manufacturers. If I hadn't just upgraded the excellent FabFilter Timeless I would have jumped on the PSP promotion to buy Lexicon PSP 42.