50g

you raise a great point faith. one has only to look at the monstrosity that is the new ti nspire keyboard to see the main problem--the input method. you can

Hi everyone,

I always liked the latest. I have both the TI NSpire and the HP50G.

I suggest that you buy a TI NSpire before you knock it. Do yourself a 
favor if you like/use calculators that much.

The keyboard on the 50g has far more on it's keyboard than the 
NSpire. 

NSpire's alpha characters are separate and easier to document the 
problem in it's note psd screen. Much easier than finding alpha 
characters on th HP.

Screen is better on the NSpire and the keyboard is logical which 
translates into easy to use.

I personally won't sell either of my two flagship calcs.

NIMH (NIckel Metal Hyride) rechargables?

Be sure to save your work frequently.

George

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, Fatih Can <f_can2003@...> wrote:
>
> guys
> i've been reading all correspondence with joy and benefiting a 
lot...
> having read the recent ones on ergonomics, connectivity of the 
machine don't you think that we, who spent at least 2-3 hrs a day 
with calculators, deserve better resolutions, colors and video 
quality?
> who would HP not consider to develop calcs that have the same 
features that we see in the PDAs of HP or any mobile phone nowadays?
> simply why should we care to change AAAs -by the way HP50g is a 
good eater- but recharge our calcs as we do our phones?
> fatih
>

Look at the Casio Classpad 300/310. It uses a stylus.

Might be what you want.

this is not promising at all. i ve worked in computers and software and calculators for nearly 40 years and i cannot get the ti nspire computer program to give

... As another owner of hp50g, hp49g+, hp49g, hp28s, hp12c, hp11c, TI-89ti, TI-89, TI-86, TI-58, and at least a couple others I can t recall at the moment, I 

yes, i definitely ordered the cas version. like you it seems, i ve owned nearly every major calculator release from the two major players. not that i need them

so someone who owns this calc please take pity on me and tell me how to isolate a symbolic variable. for the simplest of examples, i need to solve for, or

'a+b/c=d' 
'c'
ISOL

c=-b/(a-d) will be returned on the stack

Is that the type of thing you're looking for?

yeah, that s exactly what i m looking for. that s the hp way. but i can t find a similar structure on the nspire cas. /guy

i finally figured it out from an error message. i put in solve(a+b/c),c and it told me that a+b/c wasn t an equation. so i entered: solve(a+b/c=0,c) and

and now that i ve blasted this thing so bad, i find the programming exceptionally easy to use. i was able to write a program that simulated a die toss in 3

I too had waited for OS X version. It was delivered 2 days ago, but
then I got really lucky as my family came down to visit. Haven't even
had time to DL the software. After they leave, I'll be referring back
to your posts. Thanks for sharing.

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Teague" <accts@...> wrote:
>
> and now that i've blasted this thing so bad, i find the programming

Hi Guy,

Sorry for getting you started.

BUT, I am listening to every word that you and the others are saying.

I didn't get the NSpire CAS version. What is your thought on the 
readability of the screen compared to everything else?

My NSpire without CAS says politely the Solve function is not supported 
and I need to have a CAS version of course.  TI 92 Plus did the Solve 
using exactly same syntax you used on the NSpire. The TI 92 screen is 
very poor compared to HP calculators in general.

You haven't mentioned the templates yet.

Listening,

George

george, on that website i quote that has the movie tutorials, one of the movies marked new and cas says that the non-cas has solve, but that it can t solve

> My NSpire without CAS says politely the Solve function is not supported 

The example equation was 2x^2-5x+2=0. Solve gave the answers of 1/2, 2.
nSolve on both CAS and non-CAS versions give just 0.5, not the second
answer.

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "arthurford4142" <arthurford4142@...> wrote:
 
> The example equation was 2x^2-5x+2=0. Solve gave the answers of 1/2, 2.
> nSolve on both CAS and non-CAS versions give just 0.5, not the second
> answer.

Oops
nSolve(2x^2-5x+2=0,x=1.5) does give the correct second answer of 2. I
was first incorrectly trying to get the second answer with constraints
rather than "guess" as is shown on the bottom syntax line when nSolve
is highlighted in the Catalog.

On Saturday 26 July 2008 05:08:34 Guy Teague wrote:

> if you guys are getting tired of my little mini-rants and reviews of this
> calc (seeing as how we are, after all, on an hp50 list) just let me know.

I, for one, am definitely not tired of your commentary.  On the contrary, 
although I haven't the free time (like so many others - full-time job, 
full-time university student, part-time husband, family member and homeowner) 
to dig into the software, I have been reading your messages to this list and 
look forward to continuing to read of your experience, observations, 
evaluation, and comparison of this calculator to the likes of the 50g.

> but i think many or perhaps most of us have multiple calculators and are
> interested in all the brands and models.

That is certainly true in my case.

> for those interested i found the following site has some extremely helpful
> videos of many ti-nspire procedures and their coin toss programming example
> was extremely easy for me to modify for this dice toss program:
>
> http://movies.atomiclearning.com/k12/ti_nspire/

I haven't got to this yet, but I will eventually.

> /guy

Thank you for your time and energy spent evaluating and candidly sharing your 
findings and opinions with us here.

TI-NSpire & CAS version have a just released verion 1.4 OS.
Updated NSpire computer software as well.

George

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Stripes <analogtek@...> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 26 July 2008 05:08:34 Guy Teague wrote:
> 
> > if you guys are getting tired of my little mini-rants and reviews 
of this
> > calc (seeing as how we are, after all, on an hp50 list) just let 
me know.
> 
> I, for one, am definitely not tired of your commentary.  On the 
contrary, 
> although I haven't the free time (like so many others - full-time 
job, 
> full-time university student, part-time husband, family member and 
homeowner) 
> to dig into the software, I have been reading your messages to this 
list and 
> look forward to continuing to read of your experience, 
observations, 
> evaluation, and comparison of this calculator to the likes of the 
50g.
> 
> > but i think many or perhaps most of us have multiple calculators 
and are
> > interested in all the brands and models.
> 
> That is certainly true in my case.
> 
> > for those interested i found the following site has some 
extremely helpful
> > videos of many ti-nspire procedures and their coin toss 
programming example
> > was extremely easy for me to modify for this dice toss program:
> >
> > http://movies.atomiclearning.com/k12/ti_nspire/
> 
> I haven't got to this yet, but I will eventually.
> 
> > /guy
> 
> Thank you for your time and energy spent evaluating and candidly 
sharing your 
> findings and opinions with us here.
>